Going to the comic book store tomorrow and thinking about about picking up a Superman trade since the only ones I have of his are Red Son, Kingdom Come, Hunter/Prey and for some strange reason True Brit and RUin Revealed.
Is Birthright the trade where Superman does the whole shoot you in the face at point blank range and catch the bullet before it hits you trick? Cause I really want that particular book.
yeah, I dug the first trade of scalped. The downside about comics is that in the U.S, superheroes have been such a dominant force in them that its a difficult shadow for a non-hero comic to step out from under.
You know, I'm actually going to be a little bit sad if Superman finds the real Kandor, or solves the mystery of Kandor. That's always been the great mystery. The one thing that has always baffled him. If he finally has the answers, its like an entire portion of the Superman mythos will be gone.
You know, I'm actually going to be a little bit sad if Superman finds the real Kandor, or solves the mystery of Kandor. That's always been the great mystery. The one thing that has always baffled him. If he finally has the answers, its like an entire portion of the Superman mythos will be gone.
Apparently he does solve it, and there'll be a few thousand Kryptonians running around in the near future.
The way I always thought of it, at least in its original context, is that space and science fiction and advanced alien technology are all a part of the future, and therefore "tomorrow." Superman is the Man of Tomorrow because he's part of something far more advanced than modern earth.
I always really like the ending to Superman: Birthright. Corny as all hell, but I imagine it would look awesome as one long camera shot set to the Superman theme march.
So what's the general consensus on the Man of Steel origin v Birthright?
I haven't read either (although I read some of the Byrne run along with most of the Death/Return of Superman arc as a kid), but I've read summaries and the father conflict in Birthright really jives with my concept of the character. I'm starting a collection of DC trades and although I'm planning on getting Man of Steel at the moment, I could still be swayed.
Neither is direct canon at this point, correct? Is there a new origin coming?
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It really doesn't matter much anymore which origin story is "canon." Unless it's written by Geoff Johns, nothing in these retold origin stories significantly affects the current continuity stories.
I'm not saying that's a bad thing. If it's a good story (Birthright) then it deserves to be told even if things in it are never really mentioned or don't jive with modern stories (Rainbow life vision).
It's appears to me as if Johns is using the Superman:Animated template for Brainiac, and cramming all of the past versions into that, ala his Hawkman fix.
Apparently Jerry Siegel's original origin idea was for superman to be the last child before earth's destruction, literally a super-powered boy of tomorrow, and sent back in time to the current era.
hey, so all star number 12 is coming out in a couple of weeks. that's gonna be excellent.
i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
dr quintum is wrong and it only looks like superman is dying. instead, he's begun evolving into the fantastic golden superman, the one who is presented as the "leader of the superman squad" in the flashback issue where pa kent dies. re-reading golden superman's conversation with regular superman, it's so clear that it's old superman talking to young superman. so basically i think lex is going to get beat up
hey, so all star number 12 is coming out in a couple of weeks. that's gonna be excellent.
i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
dr quintum is wrong and it only looks like superman is dying. instead, he's begun evolving into the fantastic golden superman, the one who is presented as the "leader of the superman squad" in the flashback issue where pa kent dies. re-reading golden superman's conversation with regular superman, it's so clear that it's old superman talking to young superman. so basically i think lex is going to get beat up
Well, wasn't Golden Superman basically the Prime Superman (ie Kal-El from the year 53 thousand and something) from DC One Million anyway?
Apparently Jerry Siegel's original origin idea was for superman to be the last child before earth's destruction, literally a super-powered boy of tomorrow, and sent back in time to the current era.
Supes would be so much more interesting if that were the case.
hey, so all star number 12 is coming out in a couple of weeks. that's gonna be excellent.
i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
dr quintum is wrong and it only looks like superman is dying. instead, he's begun evolving into the fantastic golden superman, the one who is presented as the "leader of the superman squad" in the flashback issue where pa kent dies. re-reading golden superman's conversation with regular superman, it's so clear that it's old superman talking to young superman. so basically i think lex is going to get beat up
Well, wasn't Golden Superman basically the Prime Superman (ie Kal-El from the year 53 thousand and something) from DC One Million anyway?
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is there anything this Brainiac arc can't do?
The human race will evolve into to super powered beings. Grant Morrison said it and he doesn't lie.
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Was it Alan Moore who wanted to make Krypton the Earth in the far future?
Superman: Red Son did this, and Millar made it sound like Grant was the first to think of it.
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I don't know if Alan Moore had the idea, but Mark Millar certainly did by way of Red Son.
An ending that was originally Grant Morrison's idea.
I might add that's one of my all time favorite endings to a comic book. It's just so full of awesome. The whole narration is excelent.
I haven't read either (although I read some of the Byrne run along with most of the Death/Return of Superman arc as a kid), but I've read summaries and the father conflict in Birthright really jives with my concept of the character. I'm starting a collection of DC trades and although I'm planning on getting Man of Steel at the moment, I could still be swayed.
Neither is direct canon at this point, correct? Is there a new origin coming?
Out of curiosity, have you read the Man of Steel origin at all?
Does the Birthright story hammer on the melodrama a ton to appeal to a smallville audience?
I haven't read Man of Steel, but I've read Birthright and it's an excellent story that's worth reading
And no
I'm not saying that's a bad thing. If it's a good story (Birthright) then it deserves to be told even if things in it are never really mentioned or don't jive with modern stories (Rainbow life vision).
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which frankly is a good thing in my opinion, the comics version of Brainiac is awful
at least so far
that is a terrible comparison
as a plot device he is pretty similar
I mean yes he's a Galactus level threat, but so are plenty of other villains.
as far as his motivations, I'm not talking about that
I'm just saying for the sake of the story thus far
he is pretty much like galactus
and besides i'm not comparing specific details
look all i'm saying is that I thought of galactus multiple times throughout the story
Which is cool, since the DCAU version was awesome. Also, I like how things from those cartoons keep making their way into the comics.
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Bazzam.
Apparently Jerry Siegel's original origin idea was for superman to be the last child before earth's destruction, literally a super-powered boy of tomorrow, and sent back in time to the current era.
i just re-read them all and i think i know kind of where it's going. speculation!
Supes would be so much more interesting if that were the case.
that's the other reason i think it!