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Spirit, AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!

Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
edited January 2007 in Artist's Corner
Flipping through my Art of Spirited Away book, got inspired to try to emulate the background painting style. Design isn't as good, and there's still some sloppy painting and some of the perspective is off (why the heck did I try to do barrel distortion, argh), but whatever.

This is what happens when I can't get away with the impressionistic chiaroscuro loose painting texture brush speedy bullshit that I use most of the time. :P

miyazaki.jpg

This'll probably become a dump topic soon.

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    The CelestialThe Celestial Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I don't think the POV is set low enough to have such drastic curves on such small buildings (like you said some perspective is off) but the coloring job is superb. You could have said you scanned this out of any of Miyazaki's art books and I would have believed you. I'm loving the blue you used for the sky.

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    Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2007
    Thanks. :D

    Yeah, I really should have just done straight 1 point perspective, but I have a thing for really wide lenses and fish-eye barrel distortion...probably not the way to go here, since all it did was confuse me and make it impossible just to use a friggin' ruler. :?


    In any case, back to my usual schtick of creating Fine Art that answer Important Artistic Questions of the Day, like, "What if Travis Bickle and Blade had a baby?"

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    PiousPious Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I looked through that book too, its freaking sweet. I hope you know why they distort it like that. I bet you do, but I can't help but explain it.

    They do this in video games also, like in street fighter. They do it cause for the camera, when the camera starts moving up, the perspective changes to like a 3 point view. You can't really look up in a painting with a camera, so thats why they distort it like that, so it feels like your looking up. They usually put the charaters on the ground and have the camera pan up so you can get a look in the view.

    Watch the movie and pay attention when you see chihiro standing in one spot and the camera pans away from her, they distorted the perspective to get the effect. If they used regular perspective, it wouldn't go so well.

    AOB, You did good in distorting it, but you did it toooo soon. the windows shouln't be distorted yet, the distorion should be a little higher. Once you get the distorion right, try putting it in flash and have the view set at the bottom of the pic and have it pan up, it will cause that effect that I poorly explained.

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    GinnyGinny Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I could take an hour to give you a professional critique about how great it looks, and how you were able to really bring out the style of the Spirited Away background images.

    I could even try to tell you how the colors look perfect on the scene..

    But I'm going to be lazy and say it looks fantastic, and I wish I could grow up to be just like you... or something like that.

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    Ape2001Ape2001 Otaku GermanyRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You know my wallet personally Angel_of_Bacon? That would probably explain why you want to hurt it, making me buying that artbook you mentioned =_=

    Seriously, I <3 that bg. Going to look out for that artbook.

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    exitexit Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I always want to lick your lighting

    man I don't even know what that implies

    but I would do it.

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    AiranAiran Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Farrrrk, that book is £61 on Amazon D:

    I like this piece very much, since I'm especially fond of perspectives :)

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    TamTam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I'd love to live in an old quiet town like that. Very relaxing; easy to draw in a place like that. Really cool, Mr. Bacon.

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    McAllenMcAllen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    how long did both of these things take you? They're very inspirational.

    Also I was wonder if there is a way to take off anti-aliasing with the brush tool? Or is that what the pencil tool is for? I don't like the grayness that comes with it, is there any way to change that?

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    Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2007
    @ people asking about the art book- I got mine for $35 at Borders, still a bit pricey, but I'd say it was well worth the money if you like the background style.

    @pious- yeah, I know about the distortion necessary to do a pan that appears to be a rotation, but that's not really what I was going for, but rather a slightly fisheyed bowing you'd get with a very, very wide angled camera lens.

    @McAllen- I'm just kind of estimating since I don't put myself on a stopwatch-
    1st one: 6 hours
    2nd one: 30 minutes- 1 hour

    And yes, the pencil tool turns off the anti-aliasing, but then.... you get a lot of aliasing. You can get around that by working at a ridiculously high resolution, like Brian Bolland does (I believe he works at around 600 dpi or so.) I prefer to work at decently high resolutions (1600- 2500 px in general) with the brush tool and using my handy-dandy flat brush, which lets me get some slightly sharper edges than I can get with the standard round brush.


    Paint to post. Threw in a dude as kind of an afterthought to see if it would actually look ok, not sure if it really works with the kind of looser background than the first pic.
    climber.jpg

    2.5 hours on this I think?

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    JCMJCM Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Flipping through my Art of Spirited Away book, got inspired to try to emulate the background painting style. Design isn't as good, and there's still some sloppy painting and some of the perspective is off (why the heck did I try to do barrel distortion, argh), but whatever.

    This is what happens when I can't get away with the impressionistic chiaroscuro loose painting texture brush speedy bullshit that I use most of the time. :P

    miyazaki.jpg

    This'll probably become a dump topic soon.

    Quite good for a first try, the tower thingy on the left need to be a bit curved, and the right loos too staight compared to the left, but a quick photoshop fixes that.

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    ScottyScotty Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I totally love the colouring. :^:

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    EhmaviscaEhmavisca Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    This is just pure bad ASS. I need to know how, tutorial process gogogogogogogog.

    FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT ~

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    Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2007
    eminkey2003 over at the TSO forums whipped this up, the curving doesn't seem too bad to me when it's panned like this (of course, I fully admit that I am probably wrong :P):
    http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=baconbgxt4.swf
    This is just pure bad ASS. I need to know how, tutorial process gogogogogogogog.

    Well, process-wise it's nothing special. Tossed a gradient and some flats under a pencil sketch set to multiply, threw down a basic shadow layer with a slighlty blue hued layer set to multiply, then went to town just noodling over those layer with paint. 90% of the painting was done with my standard 100% hardness flat brush, pen tilt for angle control, pen pressure for opacity control, a lot at 100% opacity to keep the opaque/gouache look. There a little bit of soft airbrushy shit going on, mostly in the clouds, but not much.

    Step by step (well, not really, but these are the photoshop layers I had saved). As you can tell, the process really kind of stops being exciting a thrid of the way through, then it just becomes a matter of a noodling death-slog. :P


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    Angel_of_BaconAngel_of_Bacon Moderator mod
    edited January 2007
    Some kind of ipod commercial/Viewtiful Joe/graffiti ripoff style. (Why is that when I try to do something in a "cool" style it just ends up looking like a sneaker ad?)

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    TamTam Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sneaker ads are cool.

    I think the addition of dust cloud detail behind the buildings would benefit the piece.

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    AntibodiesAntibodies Used to live in a psychic city. Never knew what would happen in a day. Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You have a footsy fetish clearly. Seriously amazing sense of space and lighting, and thanks for the step by step, that's about the best way for me to make sense on how you colorist people pull these things off. Your diversity of style is insane, pretty much what I'm going for.

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    GrifterGrifter BermudaModerator mod
    edited January 2007
    @ people asking about the art book- I got mine for $35 at Borders, still a bit pricey, but I'd say it was well worth the money if you like the background style.

    @pious- yeah, I know about the distortion necessary to do a pan that appears to be a rotation, but that's not really what I was going for, but rather a slightly fisheyed bowing you'd get with a very, very wide angled camera lens.

    @McAllen- I'm just kind of estimating since I don't put myself on a stopwatch-
    1st one: 6 hours
    2nd one: 30 minutes- 1 hour

    And yes, the pencil tool turns off the anti-aliasing, but then.... you get a lot of aliasing. You can get around that by working at a ridiculously high resolution, like Brian Bolland does (I believe he works at around 600 dpi or so.) I prefer to work at decently high resolutions (1600- 2500 px in general) with the brush tool and using my handy-dandy flat brush, which lets me get some slightly sharper edges than I can get with the standard round brush.


    Paint to post. Threw in a dude as kind of an afterthought to see if it would actually look ok, not sure if it really works with the kind of looser background than the first pic.
    climber.jpg

    2.5 hours on this I think?

    I'd like this a hell of a lot more if the background was a bit simpler. It's bordering on very Darwyn Cooke.

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