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Hatred, Hope, and Happiness: the trifecta of MMO emotions

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Just spam Lightning Bolt on it till it dies. Meleeing is for suckers.

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    MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    Just spam Lightning Bolt on it till it dies. Meleeing is for suckers.

    Yeah, seriously. Just spam lightning bolt and ele Mastery chain lightning bitches sometimes. Frost Shock is a waste of mana or time if you're using it for the snare.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    This char is pretty bad. It's in mostly level 40 greens and it has a total of 40g. I've got some work to do here :(

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    MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    This char is pretty bad. It's in mostly level 40 greens and it has a total of 40g. I've got some work to do here :(

    If they haven't done any of the Hellfire quests just grab all the mail with spell damage on it and the spell damage shield from quests, you'll be exploding stuff in no time. I may have some screenshots lying around of when I leveled my Orc Shaman...

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    PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    Just spam Lightning Bolt on it till it dies. Meleeing is for suckers.

    That works...unless the mob attacks so fast it keeps pushing back the spell or has an interrupt or knockback of some sort. :|

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I think they've done a few of the Hellfire quests. I've got about 12 quests to do in Thrallmar, so getting some gear shouldn't be too hard. Apparently this server has 7 guilds in SWP which is all like "WFT?" to me since my main's server has 1 guild in there, both sides.

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    MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Poketpixie wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Just spam Lightning Bolt on it till it dies. Meleeing is for suckers.

    That works...unless the mob attacks so fast it keeps pushing back the spell or has an interrupt or knockback of some sort. :|

    There are no mobs that attack so fast that you cannot cast a spell and they are also usually one, maybe two lightning bolts away from dying by the time they get to you. Interrupts also aren't a problem because mob interrupts are on a long cooldown and you just wait. I literally never had a problem with it leveling up.

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    Only shot I have but procs like that are common, hooray for LO. From lvl 62 in Zangarmarsh.

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mgcw wrote: »

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    Only shot I have but procs like that are common, hooray for LO. From lvl 62 in Zangarmarsh.


    The first two crits are lower than the nomal attack?

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    PoketpixiePoketpixie Siege Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    The dual wielding type mobs can be very annoying with spell pushback and occasionally you run into a mob that kicks, knocks you in the air, etc. It gets really irritating when they do both. I've found it easier to just shock them and poke them a couple times with melee/flametongue to finish them off. /shrug

    It's not a big deal in Azeroth but you'll run into nuisance mobs like that in Outlands now and then. Ogres especially. Fuckers.

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    CharusCharus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Mgcw wrote: »

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    Only shot I have but procs like that are common, hooray for LO. From lvl 62 in Zangarmarsh.


    The first two crits are lower than the nomal attack?

    I think this is from an old version of Lightning Overload (currently, the second bolt you get only does half damage, but thankfully now also causes no threat). Looks like what happened was that he popped Elemental Mastery, procced Lightning Overload and got a double crit, then his next Lightning Bolt procced Lightning Overload and got a double crit again.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I don't know which is worse: the level 65 Feral Druid tank who barely has 8k HP and 7400 armor in bear form, or the level 70 fully epicced Affliction lock who I'm outdamaging on my 66 Hunter.

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    autono-wally, erotibot300autono-wally, erotibot300 love machine Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    the lock

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    Beyond NormalBeyond Normal Lord Phender Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    I don't know which is worse: the level 65 Feral Druid tank who barely has 8k HP and 7400 armor in bear form, or the level 70 fully epicced Affliction lock who I'm outdamaging on my 66 Hunter.

    Yeah, that lock is terribad. Armory link maybe?

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My level 62 blood elf hunter and her pet outdamaged a mace weilding rogue in full season 2 gear during a ubrs run

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    IshtaarIshtaar Fun is underrated. Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Mixed Hate/Hope: We down Brut and now have a flood of new applicants. (Like 17 in the last 2 days) While it's irritating that many of them are just looking to get a boarding pass to the loot train before Wrath, I know we'll need them in the coming months. And oh hey, a couple of the folks that WoW quit are now interested in raiding again all of a sudden. Well that's quite a coincidence that their RL issues just cleared up.

    Ugh the endless cycle of Recruit -> Gear -> Polish -> "lol sorry guys RL bye!" rolls on.

    Actually, I shouldn't be that bitter. One of the BT guilds on the server quit raiding, and mmmm, maybe 30% of the apps are from there. Those folks I shall remain cautiously optimistic about.

    Random happiness: Finally settled on Lock/Priest for my Horde RAF pair, dual boxing casters is about a billion times easier than melee. I shall finally have my Horde Priest that I planned on rolling like... When TBC went live.

    Hope: That the ED economy is as broken as the DI one, and I can make mountains of gold off Herbs/Leather.

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    CharusCharus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Mixed Hate/Hope: We down Brut and now have a flood of new applicants. (Like 17 in the last 2 days) While it's irritating that many of them are just looking to get a boarding pass to the loot train before Wrath, I know we'll need them in the coming months. And oh hey, a couple of the folks that WoW quit are now interested in raiding again all of a sudden. Well that's quite a coincidence that their RL issues just cleared up.

    Ugh the endless cycle of Recruit -> Gear -> Polish -> "lol sorry guys RL bye!" rolls on.

    Actually, I shouldn't be that bitter. One of the BT guilds on the server quit raiding, and mmmm, maybe 30% of the apps are from there. Those folks I shall remain cautiously optimistic about.

    Random happiness: Finally settled on Lock/Priest for my Horde RAF pair, dual boxing casters is about a billion times easier than melee. I shall finally have my Horde Priest that I planned on rolling like... When TBC went live.

    Hope: That the ED economy is as broken as the DI one, and I can make mountains of gold off Herbs/Leather.

    Leather not so much (until you start getting into specialty leathers like Heavy Clefthoof leather or Cobra Scales), but herbs are ridiculously expensive holy fuck I just looked at the AH I need to get my Druid up to 70 to start picking this crap.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    I don't know which is worse: the level 65 Feral Druid tank who barely has 8k HP and 7400 armor in bear form, or the level 70 fully epicced Affliction lock who I'm outdamaging on my 66 Hunter.

    Yeah, that lock is terribad. Armory link maybe?

    Here.

    Though to be fair, in the end she beat me by about 3.7% of damage done, so I guess she wasn't completely worthless.

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Actually, I shouldn't be that bitter. One of the BT guilds on the server quit raiding, and mmmm, maybe 30% of the apps are from there. Those folks I shall remain cautiously optimistic about.

    Yeah, we've had that happen too recently. Actually, it's something like a sunwell guild broke up, which we've gotten a handful of members, as well as two BT guilds, which we've gotten a dozen members from.

    It's nice being able to pick and choose our apps (and we're only a BT guild!)

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    I don't know which is worse: the level 65 Feral Druid tank who barely has 8k HP and 7400 armor in bear form, or the level 70 fully epicced Affliction lock who I'm outdamaging on my 66 Hunter.

    Yeah, that lock is terribad. Armory link maybe?

    Here.

    Though to be fair, in the end she beat me by about 3.7% of damage done, so I guess she wasn't completely worthless.

    Wow, her hit is really low.

    Affliction sucks on trash, but unless she's actually trying to dot the trash mobs up completely, you shouldn't be beating her by any stretch of imagination.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Speaking from experience, this isn't an entirely rare situation:

    A: yes, a lot of people in this game are 'bad', or innattentive, or bored, or just riding the coattails of others for whatever reason.

    B: the lower level or undergeared person often knows that they're undergeared or lower than the other dps, and as such, they try harder. The player that's expected to be on top might afk more, or just be throwing out token damage while browsing/trolling forums, wanking it to porn, watching a movie, or god knows what else.

    I once outdamaged a mage in Mechanar wearing full spellfire/spellstrike/spellwhatever + karazhan and above epics, while the only epics I had on were the bop spellcloth stuff. Most of my gear was blues and some of it was greens, but I was just dedicated to not being shown up by another mage on the same run, and funny enough, I wasn't.

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    SegSeg Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Happiness: I had switched to protection because I logged in and was asked to Tank a Shadow Lab run, I had thought at the time that it might have been the start of me tanking occasional instance runs, but two of the people involved in it decided they wanted to level up a pair of lowbie alts so I switched back to MS/Fury and floated into a BG. It can be wonderful to trinket out skillcoil and then intercept into the Warlock because it figured I would be busy for a few seconds.

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    Wombat02Wombat02 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Happiness: My Rogue hit level 70 last night, did an mgt and bought some honor gear.

    Hatred: Now what do I do?

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    BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    End wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    I don't know which is worse: the level 65 Feral Druid tank who barely has 8k HP and 7400 armor in bear form, or the level 70 fully epicced Affliction lock who I'm outdamaging on my 66 Hunter.

    Yeah, that lock is terribad. Armory link maybe?

    Here.

    Though to be fair, in the end she beat me by about 3.7% of damage done, so I guess she wasn't completely worthless.

    Wow, her hit is really low.

    Affliction sucks on trash, but unless she's actually trying to dot the trash mobs up completely, you shouldn't be beating her by any stretch of imagination.


    27 spell hit for affiction is low? what would be a good +spell hit for affliction?

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    27 spell hit is low for anyone.

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    ForarForar #432 Toronto, Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I was floored when I found out that spell hit is to casters (dps that is) as Hit is to Rogues (and other physical dps).

    And then my dps on my shadow priest, warlock and mage went way up as I swapped a few gems and dug out or did the quest for the 22 spell hit trinket in Terokar.

    Most of them are sitting around 100+ now, which isn't amazing, but it's a hell of a lot better than I had at the time.

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    PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My rogue has 27 spell hit.


    Isn't the "cap" for Affliciton locks, like 75? Assuming you take the talent? But should still go for the regular cap for shadowbolts.

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    DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    well except for the difference that a rogue doesnt absolutely make sure he is hitcapped while a caster dps does

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    PierceNeck wrote: »
    My rogue has 27 spell hit.


    Isn't the "cap" for Affliciton locks, like 75? Assuming you take the talent? But should still go for the regular cap for shadowbolts.

    That individual doesn't even have suppression either.

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    PierceNeckPierceNeck Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm sad.

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    zagizagi Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    PierceNeck wrote: »
    My rogue has 27 spell hit.


    Isn't the "cap" for Affliciton locks, like 75? Assuming you take the talent? But should still go for the regular cap for shadowbolts.

    It's really a pseudo-cap, I mean...unless you will never ever ever do raids, or Kara, do people even bother to gear to 202 anymore for Kara? For farming and/or other things not involving bosses, I think 75 spell hit rating is fine.

    I used to raid with a fire lock awhile back, who insisted that having 12 spell hit was not a hinderance as his crits made up for any damage he missed from normal hits. What's sad is that a lot of people actually bought that as truth.

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    MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    well except for the difference that a rogue doesnt absolutely make sure he is hitcapped while a caster dps does
    Well, the hit cap for a rogue is quite a bit higher.

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    MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Happy: Dinged 28 on my rogue. Im going to get that defiler pvp belt so I did some AB last night and holy shit I like rogue PvP.

    Hate: The Alliance were being real twats last night. I dunno what it is, maybe school is coming back and they feel they gotta bang a few more nights out but god damn I ran into 3 gank squads in thousand needles which has always been utterly quiet. I was able to vanish and escape from two of them but one did get me.

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    rizriz Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Charus wrote: »
    riz wrote: »
    And a Skull of Gul'dan dropped and I didn't get it.

    That's what you get for upgrading your pants. You get gear, skull of gul'dan goes to an arcane mage, it's like some sort of law.

    I would still have been on cooldown even without the pants, and he had priority on anything he wanted, not having won anything for something like 20+ raids. What did kill me was when I wasn't able to roll on Sunfire Robes because goddamn Slippers of the Sea-caller had dropped a day earlier, and two weeks or so before I would replace them with tier 6 boots. Oh well.

    Tav wrote: »
    OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK SO MANY BUTTONS D:D:

    Guys, how do I play an elemental shammy? Seriously, I just spent the last hour clicking random buttons and hoping that the boars would die.

    Wait, you think a SHAMAN has too many buttons? My standard "stack of three bars" UI is barely half full on my shaman, and only one of the hidden side bars has anything on it (mount macro that I have hotkeyed, rez, cooking UI, weapon buffs I never use). Compared to my lock or paladin who have five entire bars full of buttons.

    My main advice for elemental is remember that you have no spell pushback resistance, that you are squishy, and thus that kiting is your friend. When I try to just stand there and take it when a mob is beating on me, I get rocked. But once talents allow for the lower cooldown on frost shock and lower the cast time of your lightning bolts, you can kite and kill anything pretty effectively. Or if necessary just use frost shock. Plus there's earthbind and stoneclaw (never underestimate the awesomeness of stoneclaw!) totems. All together you can get out of some tricky situations even without any sort of effective stun or CC abilities.

    Ishtaar wrote: »
    Hope: That the ED economy is as broken as the DI one, and I can make mountains of gold off Herbs/Leather.

    ED eh? :winky:

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    MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Elemental Shaman are the least squishy of the Magic Pew Pew classes.

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    rizriz Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Not when they're wearing level 40 cloth to level. There's, like, ONE piece of caster mail in Azeroth. In comparison my warlock when she hit Outland had a ton of HP, fear, dcoil, instant spells without cooldowns, and (most noticeable, to me, anyway) spell pushback resistance talents.

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    reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Elemental Shaman are the least squishy of the Magic Pew Pew classes.

    I don't know, I'd say moonkins are a tad bit less squishy.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    My main is a warrior. More then 4 buttons scares the everlovin' shit out of me.

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    EndEnd Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    reVerse wrote: »
    Elemental Shaman are the least squishy of the Magic Pew Pew classes.

    I don't know, I'd say moonkins are a tad bit less squishy.

    A tad?

    Should be a lot less squishy, I'd think.

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    MayGodHaveMercyMayGodHaveMercy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    riz wrote: »
    Not when they're wearing level 40 cloth to level. There's, like, ONE piece of caster mail in Azeroth. In comparison my warlock when she hit Outland had a ton of HP, fear, dcoil, instant spells without cooldowns, and (most noticeable, to me, anyway) spell pushback resistance talents.

    Ah, fair enough. You do get a hell of a lot of armor from a shield though. I decked my 62 Shaman out in +Crit +Dmg +Int gear, and had a health pool of 2800 or something, and 25% crit. It was awesome. GLASS CANNON GO GO.

    EDIT: Everyone knows Crit Chickens aren't real people.

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    rizriz Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    riz wrote: »
    Not when they're wearing level 40 cloth to level. There's, like, ONE piece of caster mail in Azeroth. In comparison my warlock when she hit Outland had a ton of HP, fear, dcoil, instant spells without cooldowns, and (most noticeable, to me, anyway) spell pushback resistance talents.

    Ah, fair enough. You do get a hell of a lot of armor from a shield though. I decked my 62 Shaman out in +Crit +Dmg +Int gear, and had a health pool of 2800 or something, and 25% crit. It was awesome. GLASS CANNON GO GO.

    EDIT: Everyone knows Crit Chickens aren't real people.

    Yeah I ended up holding on to the caster shield you get from one of the first HFP quests and wearing that to solo instead of using one of the nice caster staves you get around the same time. Often I have my boyfriend's ravager to tank things for me but when I don't, oh god the pain.

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