MotW is probably Avengers Initiative, but there was an awesome moment in Ultimate X-Men that was pretty much a cheap shot at Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine that actually made me laugh out loud
Man that Ultimate X-Men gag was hilarious.
The setting itself was funny. Wolverine and Colossus are lying in beds next to one another in the X-Men's infirmary after Wolverine just ripped out Colossus' heart and Colossus has just torn off Wolverine's leg bragging about who kicked who's ass (Colossus was on a drug that made him go nuts but now he's better so they're all chummy). Wolverine says, "The Hulk once ripped me in half. You should've seen what happened next - it was epic."
Oh yeah. Wolverine was awesome again. Question though, how is it possible for the Spider-Chick to be Hawkeye's daughter and Peter Parker's grand-daughter?
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Did no-one read Superman Beyond? You'd think Superman teaming up with Overman and Doctor Manhattan on a Carrier - in glorious 3-D, no less - would merit a bit more discussion.
I thought that SB! had the emotions and the storytelling beats that some folks have been missing in Final Crisis. It was fast paced, but no more (I thought) than the average JLA.
MotW is probably Avengers Initiative, but there was an awesome moment in Ultimate X-Men that was pretty much a cheap shot at Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine that actually made me laugh out loud
Man that Ultimate X-Men gag was hilarious.
The setting itself was funny. Wolverine and Colossus are lying in beds next to one another in the X-Men's infirmary after Wolverine just ripped out Colossus' heart and Colossus has just torn off Wolverine's leg bragging about who kicked who's ass (Colossus was on a drug that made him go nuts but now he's better so they're all chummy). Wolverine says, "The Hulk once ripped me in half. You should've seen what happened next - it was epic."
So
how the hell did Colossus survive? And did they explain how he apparently has liquid metal blood?
Did no-one read Superman Beyond? You'd think Superman teaming up with Overman and Doctor Manhattan on a Carrier - in glorious 3-D, no less - would merit a bit more discussion.
I thought that SB! had the emotions and the storytelling beats that some folks have been missing in Final Crisis. It was fast paced, but no more (I thought) than the average JLA.
I'm fairly sure Superman Beyond is fantastic, but if you were to ask I would have no idea how to explain it to you.
Superman Beyond was confusing as hell to me, but at the same time I liked it. However, unless I missed it, I don't see issue 2 solicited at all in September, October, or November.
Superman Beyond was confusing as hell to me, but at the same time I liked it. However, unless I missed it, I don't see issue 2 solicited at all in September, October, or November.
I dont think there is an issue 2
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Superman Beyond was confusing as hell to me, but at the same time I liked it. However, unless I missed it, I don't see issue 2 solicited at all in September, October, or November.
MotW is probably Avengers Initiative, but there was an awesome moment in Ultimate X-Men that was pretty much a cheap shot at Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine that actually made me laugh out loud
Man that Ultimate X-Men gag was hilarious.
The setting itself was funny. Wolverine and Colossus are lying in beds next to one another in the X-Men's infirmary after Wolverine just ripped out Colossus' heart and Colossus has just torn off Wolverine's leg bragging about who kicked who's ass (Colossus was on a drug that made him go nuts but now he's better so they're all chummy). Wolverine says, "The Hulk once ripped me in half. You should've seen what happened next - it was epic."
So
how the hell did Colossus survive? And did they explain how he apparently has liquid metal blood?
I'm pretty sure that when Colossus is in his metal form his biological functions (save for brain activity) cease. For example he was able to retrieve the submarine in the early UXM days because he doesn't have to breath underwater. It's not a stretch to say from there that his heart doesn't need to beat either, therefore having his heart ripped out doesn't really matter.
Having said that, they did patch Colossus back up but it's uncertain whether he can turn back to his fleshy self without dieing.
Yeah, do they have to like...weld his chest together?
I remember thinking about a similar question, looking at the 'panelling' the normal 616 Colossus had, back when I was a kid. I was trying to picture the transition from metal to flesh, wondering what caused the grooves, etc.
Yeah, do they have to like...weld his chest together?
I remember thinking about a similar question, looking at the 'panelling' the normal 616 Colossus had, back when I was a kid. I was trying to picture the transition from metal to flesh, wondering what caused the grooves, etc.
Actually, yes, that's what it looks like they did.
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Superman Beyond in a nutshell:
Superman is recruited/abducted by the female Monitor, and brought aboard her 4-D spaceship, called the Destroyer, which is sailing between universes through the "ultramenstruum", a fancy name for the Bleed from The Authority. Apparently the Authority's Carrier is actually a Monitor's spaceship, and we see a brief glimpse of it. Superman is part of a group of heroes from across the multiverse, including the Billy Batson Captain Marvel from Earth-5, Overman the Nazi Superman, the Doctor Manhattan-like "Captain Adam" from Earth-4, which is apparently the Watchmen universe with the actual Charlton characters, and Ultraman the evil Superman counterpart from Earth-2.
The Destroyer is being chased by a bigger, scary looking ship. It takes a direct hit and begins to crash, tumbling through a bunch of alternate universes as it does so (including one that looks a lot like the Marvel U during "Civil War"). The heroes manage to crashland it on the destroyed Earth 51 before coming to rest in Limbo.
In Limbo, where a bunch of forgotten heroes and villains are hanging out slowly forgetting their lives, the heroes find an abandoned library containing the infinite book, a book that contains all possible combinations of words and thus every story ever (and every Destroyer repair manual ever). Touching the book causes Superman and Captain Marvel to learn the origin of the Monitors:
It turns out that the multiverse is actually a giant, endless, sentient organism that was shocked to discover things growing within it that were not itself (namely, universes). It created probes to investigate the disturbance but contact with the universes, and the sentient beings within, caused the probes to gain sentience themselves and become Monitors. One of the probes, called Mandrakk, turned evil and was imprisoned by the other Monitors.
One day a humongous statue of a mysterious figure (Superman) appeared in the midst of the Monitor civilization and they started venerating and studying it, concluding that it was weapon sent to protect them should Mandrakk ever escape. Now that's happening, so they're going around the universes desperately collecting dudes who look like Superman to help them fight.
The magic book knocks out Billy, and the female monitor has done something crazy to Overman "to save us all." Doctor Manhattan is going nuts without his quantum drugs. At the end, the giant scary thing finds them, filling the entire sky - Mandrakk.
the Doctor Manhattan-like "Captain Adam" from Earth-4
Captain Adam and Dr Manhattan both come from Captain Atom. I don't know why, but it annoys me that people keep saying Adam is based on Dr Manhattan, even if it's just a matter of semantics.
To that whole Colossus discussion. In Exiles when Mimic goes toe to toe with Wolvie at the Phoenix Trials, he says he can't revert from metal form or else he'll bleed to death. He had to stay metal while his healing factor kicked in and patched him up.
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the Doctor Manhattan-like "Captain Adam" from Earth-4
Captain Adam and Dr Manhattan both come from Captain Atom. I don't know why, but it annoys me that people keep saying Adam is based on Dr Manhattan, even if it's just a matter of semantics.
Captain Adam and his "quantum senses" owe a lot more to the detached omniscience of Manhattan than to Captain Atom's aw-shucks down home military thing. He even floats like Manhattan. And, y'know, blue skin.
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Mandrakk is one of the original 'probes', the Anti-Monitor is (I think) just a normal dude Monitor who happened to be evil. The Monitors are descended from the probes, but they're supposed to be smaller and weaker (and their civilization is slowly ending).
the Doctor Manhattan-like "Captain Adam" from Earth-4
Captain Adam and Dr Manhattan both come from Captain Atom. I don't know why, but it annoys me that people keep saying Adam is based on Dr Manhattan, even if it's just a matter of semantics.
Captain Adam and his "quantum senses" owe a lot more to the detached omniscience of Manhattan than to Captain Atom's aw-shucks down home military thing. He even floats like Manhattan. And, y'know, blue skin.
I'm guessing you haven't read the Gill/Ditko Charlton series from the 60s-70s.
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My moment of the week was from Madame Xanadu where in the beginning they referenced the part in Sandman with Marco Polo getting lost in the desert. Plus many good moments with the Phantom Stranger. The book has been very solid so far in my opinion.
The quantum/nuclear stuff was around from the start (it was also a fairly intricate part of the Gold Key (and later, Valiant) character Solar, Man of the Atom. Moore certainly brought more of that to the forefront with Dr. Manhattan, but it wasn't an entirely original idea. Remember, Doc Man was created only after Giordano told Moore/Gibbons that they couldn't use the Charlton characters for their story.
Also, my MotW would be a toss-up between Rogue's Revenge, Amazing Spider-Man, and the Initiative. Anti-MotW was watching Didio do another snuff comic in Teen Titans - I'm thru paying money for that book.
I think I need to go buy Superman Beyond. The 3d thing is really weird.
The 3D stuff works pretty well. I can't see those Magic Eye things for shit but I didn't have a problem with this.
The 3D stuff was pretty amazing. Was really well done, and added the necessary feeling of otherworldness to sections taking place in the
bleed
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I think that so far, this has been one of my favorite books of the year.
Initiative was pretty sweet this week. Is it the same artist this month? Something seemed better in this issue than the last one. Maybe the colors or something I don't know but I liked it a lot more this time.
Okay, admittedly I've not followed the new Spider-Man run well as I missed the reveal of who Mr Negative was, but as far as I;ve been aware, Peter has no idea of what he did with the deal right? I mean nothing springs to mind of him mentioning his life prior to the deal and yet this week he does.
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Man that Ultimate X-Men gag was hilarious.
I thought that SB! had the emotions and the storytelling beats that some folks have been missing in Final Crisis. It was fast paced, but no more (I thought) than the average JLA.
So
I'm fairly sure Superman Beyond is fantastic, but if you were to ask I would have no idea how to explain it to you.
I dont think there is an issue 2
It says #1 of 2 on the cover
I'm pretty sure that when Colossus is in his metal form his biological functions (save for brain activity) cease. For example he was able to retrieve the submarine in the early UXM days because he doesn't have to breath underwater. It's not a stretch to say from there that his heart doesn't need to beat either, therefore having his heart ripped out doesn't really matter.
Having said that, they did patch Colossus back up but it's uncertain whether he can turn back to his fleshy self without dieing.
I remember thinking about a similar question, looking at the 'panelling' the normal 616 Colossus had, back when I was a kid. I was trying to picture the transition from metal to flesh, wondering what caused the grooves, etc.
Actually, yes, that's what it looks like they did.
The Destroyer is being chased by a bigger, scary looking ship. It takes a direct hit and begins to crash, tumbling through a bunch of alternate universes as it does so (including one that looks a lot like the Marvel U during "Civil War"). The heroes manage to crashland it on the destroyed Earth 51 before coming to rest in Limbo.
In Limbo, where a bunch of forgotten heroes and villains are hanging out slowly forgetting their lives, the heroes find an abandoned library containing the infinite book, a book that contains all possible combinations of words and thus every story ever (and every Destroyer repair manual ever). Touching the book causes Superman and Captain Marvel to learn the origin of the Monitors:
It turns out that the multiverse is actually a giant, endless, sentient organism that was shocked to discover things growing within it that were not itself (namely, universes). It created probes to investigate the disturbance but contact with the universes, and the sentient beings within, caused the probes to gain sentience themselves and become Monitors. One of the probes, called Mandrakk, turned evil and was imprisoned by the other Monitors.
One day a humongous statue of a mysterious figure (Superman) appeared in the midst of the Monitor civilization and they started venerating and studying it, concluding that it was weapon sent to protect them should Mandrakk ever escape. Now that's happening, so they're going around the universes desperately collecting dudes who look like Superman to help them fight.
The magic book knocks out Billy, and the female monitor has done something crazy to Overman "to save us all." Doctor Manhattan is going nuts without his quantum drugs. At the end, the giant scary thing finds them, filling the entire sky - Mandrakk.
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
Captain Adam and Dr Manhattan both come from Captain Atom. I don't know why, but it annoys me that people keep saying Adam is based on Dr Manhattan, even if it's just a matter of semantics.
Captain Adam and his "quantum senses" owe a lot more to the detached omniscience of Manhattan than to Captain Atom's aw-shucks down home military thing. He even floats like Manhattan. And, y'know, blue skin.
I'm....not sure, but I'm guessing not.
The 3D stuff works pretty well. I can't see those Magic Eye things for shit but I didn't have a problem with this.
I'm guessing you haven't read the Gill/Ditko Charlton series from the 60s-70s.
Just the 80s one and JLE. Tell me about the Gill stuff.
The 3D stuff was pretty amazing. Was really well done, and added the necessary feeling of otherworldness to sections taking place in the
I think that so far, this has been one of my favorite books of the year.
Rogues tie-in pretty awesome as well.
no
wait for the new writer to come on
Superman Beyond was so fucking great
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then I was like oh.
I think Hawkeye's genius plan was pretty genius