So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Presumably - and this is just a guess - the same re-writing of their brains that took the memory also keeps them from worrying about it.
I imagine it's like being on xanax or another anti-anxiety drug: you're aware of the problem, but you find that you don't really care.
So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Presumably - and this is just a guess - the same re-writing of their brains that took the memory also keeps them from worrying about it.
I imagine it's like being on xanax or another anti-anxiety drug: you're aware of the problem, but you find that you don't really care.
Which raises the question of why Mephisto doesn't win more often.
So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Presumably - and this is just a guess - the same re-writing of their brains that took the memory also keeps them from worrying about it.
I imagine it's like being on xanax or another anti-anxiety drug: you're aware of the problem, but you find that you don't really care.
Which raises the question of why Mephisto doesn't win more often.
Apathy I think. Unless he's poured himself into a year's worth of scheming documented by a mini-series and a few cross-overs, he just doesn't get that excited about a potential plan.
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So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Presumably - and this is just a guess - the same re-writing of their brains that took the memory also keeps them from worrying about it.
I imagine it's like being on xanax or another anti-anxiety drug: you're aware of the problem, but you find that you don't really care.
Which raises the question of why Mephisto doesn't win more often.
Deus ex machina. Remember, Mephisto is as powerful as any single entity on Earth, simply by virtue of his status as a deity (remember, he's a true Earth deity). It's just like asking why, say, Magneto doesn't kill everyone by hurling a thousand tiny needles through them, or why Xavier doesn't just warp the brains of world leaders to make the world a better place. The stories only work when there is doubt about the ability of characters to succeed, and that means the extremely powerful characters need to be constantly hamstrung.
So I think someone deserves a prize for coming up with the new worst-word-ever with "ultramenstruum". Every time I've seen it my mind has immediately read "ultra semen"
I was thinking ultra-menstruation... weird that we went in such opposite but sort-of parallel directions.
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So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Probably not the symbiote as much
Remember its whole thing was that its hatred of Spidey + Brock's hatred of Spidey = holy shit
And it still hates him
Just doesn't remember who's under the mask
And we're going to see how Norman deals with it soon, I think
So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Probably not the symbiote as much
Remember its whole thing was that its hatred of Spidey + Brock's hatred of Spidey = holy shit
And it still hates him
Just doesn't remember who's under the mask
And we're going to see how Norman deals with it soon, I think
Wasn't the deal that Brock hated Parker, and the symbiote hated spider-man, so there was the double hate? But anyway Venom isn't Eddie Brock right now, right?
I mean, if the symbiote doesn't remember who spider-man is, but does remember being attached to him you know what fuck it.
So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Probably not the symbiote as much
Remember its whole thing was that its hatred of Spidey + Brock's hatred of Spidey = holy shit
And it still hates him
Just doesn't remember who's under the mask
And we're going to see how Norman deals with it soon, I think
Yeah but the symbiote freaked out when it was near Brock. Why the fuck didn't it freak out when Pete was nearby?
So are Normie and the Symbiote freaking the fuck out about the huge blank spots in their memories regarding their archenemy/former host-body? And if not, why?
Probably not the symbiote as much
Remember its whole thing was that its hatred of Spidey + Brock's hatred of Spidey = holy shit
And it still hates him
Just doesn't remember who's under the mask
And we're going to see how Norman deals with it soon, I think
Wasn't the deal that Brock hated Parker, and the symbiote hated spider-man, so there was the double hate? But anyway Venom isn't Eddie Brock right now, right?
I mean, if the symbiote doesn't remember who spider-man is, but does remember being attached to him you know what fuck it.
Brock and the symbiote both hated Spider-man, the symbiote because he rejected it and Brock because spider-man caught the real Sin-eater. So it kind of works without either of them knowing that Spider-man = Peter Parker, only not really.
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and Brock because spider-man caught the real Sin-eater.
What.
I thought Brock hates him because he stole his job. I've never really closely followed Spider-man (maybe that's a good thing), but I thought I knew why Eddie hated him. They made up a new reason?
No, that was the original reason. There was a complicated backstory involving a serial killer called the Sin-eater - basically Eddie Brock published interviews with someone claiming to be the killer who wasn't, and then spider-man ruined the story and humiliated Eddie by catching the real one, resulting in him being fired (Eddie, not spider-man). I don't know, maybe they retconned it or some other bs since.
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I thought that he hated him because Peter was better at his job than Eddie was. Eddie was an awesome reporter, but Peter scooped him a few times or something?
From the Eddie Brock Wiki
After being diagnosed with terminal cancer, Brock decides to take his mind off it by burying himself in his work. He investigates the serial killer nicknamed Sin-Eater, and surprisingly finds someone actually confessing to the murders. Once the case is finally closed, it is revealed that the real killer was already caught by Spider-Man, and that Brock had been interviewing a compulsive confessor. Brock is fired from his job in disgrace, and his father practically disowns him. With no decent publishers willing to hire him, he is forced to work for sleazy tabloid magazines. Now with his fear of the cancer growing, Brock resumes his passion for athletics through weight training to reduce stress. Though his body grows to near-Olympic standards, his anger and depression remain, causing Anne to divorce him. With both his professional and personal life shattered, Brock contemplates suicide and goes to a church where he prays to God for forgiveness, unaware the symbiote Spider-Man has discarded is waiting for him.
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I thought that he hated him because Peter was better at his job than Eddie was. Eddie was an awesome reporter, but Peter scooped him a few times or something?
From the Eddie Brock Wiki
After being diagnosed with terminal cancer, Brock decides to take his mind off it by burying himself in his work. He investigates the serial killer nicknamed Sin-Eater, and surprisingly finds someone actually confessing to the murders. Once the case is finally closed, it is revealed that the real killer was already caught by Spider-Man, and that Brock had been interviewing a compulsive confessor. Brock is fired from his job in disgrace, and his father practically disowns him. With no decent publishers willing to hire him, he is forced to work for sleazy tabloid magazines. Now with his fear of the cancer growing, Brock resumes his passion for athletics through weight training to reduce stress. Though his body grows to near-Olympic standards, his anger and depression remain, causing Anne to divorce him. With both his professional and personal life shattered, Brock contemplates suicide and goes to a church where he prays to God for forgiveness, unaware the symbiote Spider-Man has discarded is waiting for him.
Well, that's the end-result of at least three or four significant retcons, of course (e.g. the cancer...). However, the point is that Brock has reasons (legitimate, in his mind) for hating Spider-Man (catching the real Sin-Eater) and Parker (for showing him up, regularly).
It sounds like they basically don't remember but for one reason or another related to the change, they don't question it. If someone pressed them on it they might realise but since noone will since noone remembers or realises they don't remember, they probably won't.
It sounds like they basically don't remember but for one reason or another related to the change, they don't question it. If someone pressed them on it they might realise but since noone will since noone remembers or realises they don't remember, they probably won't.
Like I said: apparently, Mephisto is a xanax dispenser.
Let's not go over this again but Carnage can be cool when done right. nothing wrong with a big, red, mass murderer who can transform his limbs.
That said, Cletus fully accepts the symbiote to the point where it replaces his blood if I remember correctly, or it lived inside him anyway, so he uses 'I'. Eddie accepts it but also resists against its baser rage and maintains a separate identity, so he uses 'We'. And the symbiote is only evil apparently because of the people it bonded with. In a What If, it bonded with a kid first or something, or someone very, very good and realised that its desire to get revenge on Peter wasn't worth what it was doing.
The main problem with Carnage is he's similar to the Joker but Spider-Man isn't similar to Batman. He isn't a bastion of order, at least thats now how I interpret him. A vigilante, sarcastic kid against an agent of chaos, it isn't very compelling, and while hes out there trying to do good, I never got the impression that Peter was as invested in every life in NYC as Batman is in the lives of Gotham's citizens.
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Presumably - and this is just a guess - the same re-writing of their brains that took the memory also keeps them from worrying about it.
I imagine it's like being on xanax or another anti-anxiety drug: you're aware of the problem, but you find that you don't really care.
Which raises the question of why Mephisto doesn't win more often.
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Apathy I think. Unless he's poured himself into a year's worth of scheming documented by a mini-series and a few cross-overs, he just doesn't get that excited about a potential plan.
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Deus ex machina. Remember, Mephisto is as powerful as any single entity on Earth, simply by virtue of his status as a deity (remember, he's a true Earth deity). It's just like asking why, say, Magneto doesn't kill everyone by hurling a thousand tiny needles through them, or why Xavier doesn't just warp the brains of world leaders to make the world a better place. The stories only work when there is doubt about the ability of characters to succeed, and that means the extremely powerful characters need to be constantly hamstrung.
Also, you know, it's magic.
I was thinking ultra-menstruation... weird that we went in such opposite but sort-of parallel directions.
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Probably not the symbiote as much
Remember its whole thing was that its hatred of Spidey + Brock's hatred of Spidey = holy shit
And it still hates him
Just doesn't remember who's under the mask
And we're going to see how Norman deals with it soon, I think
Wasn't the deal that Brock hated Parker, and the symbiote hated spider-man, so there was the double hate? But anyway Venom isn't Eddie Brock right now, right?
I mean, if the symbiote doesn't remember who spider-man is, but does remember being attached to him you know what fuck it.
Brock and the symbiote both hated Spider-man, the symbiote because he rejected it and Brock because spider-man caught the real Sin-eater. So it kind of works without either of them knowing that Spider-man = Peter Parker, only not really.
"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
What.
I thought Brock hates him because he stole his job. I've never really closely followed Spider-man (maybe that's a good thing), but I thought I knew why Eddie hated him. They made up a new reason?
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"And this is his sofa, is it?" said Arthur.
From the Eddie Brock Wiki
After being diagnosed with terminal cancer, Brock decides to take his mind off it by burying himself in his work. He investigates the serial killer nicknamed Sin-Eater, and surprisingly finds someone actually confessing to the murders. Once the case is finally closed, it is revealed that the real killer was already caught by Spider-Man, and that Brock had been interviewing a compulsive confessor. Brock is fired from his job in disgrace, and his father practically disowns him. With no decent publishers willing to hire him, he is forced to work for sleazy tabloid magazines. Now with his fear of the cancer growing, Brock resumes his passion for athletics through weight training to reduce stress. Though his body grows to near-Olympic standards, his anger and depression remain, causing Anne to divorce him. With both his professional and personal life shattered, Brock contemplates suicide and goes to a church where he prays to God for forgiveness, unaware the symbiote Spider-Man has discarded is waiting for him.
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Well, that's the end-result of at least three or four significant retcons, of course (e.g. the cancer...). However, the point is that Brock has reasons (legitimate, in his mind) for hating Spider-Man (catching the real Sin-Eater) and Parker (for showing him up, regularly).
I mean, it's possible Venom doesn't quite have a memory like we do, and that the knowledge that Parker is Spider-Man was all from Brock.
My other thought is that maybe Venom doesn't WANT Gargan to know for some reason.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Did he learn after, or did he just know who Spider-Man was once he had the symbiote?
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
He knew once he had it through their psychic bond. Its how he set about fucking with Peter's life.
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God bless the '90s.
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Well that fucks up my theory then.
New theory. Venom/Gargan has been huffing paint.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
Like I said: apparently, Mephisto is a xanax dispenser.
I mean, drugs would be LAME.
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I don't get why he says, "We." I mean, considering the degree to which they merge, should the symbiote and host count as one entity?
Otherwise it's, "Hi, I'm Eddie Brock and this is my friend, whom I'm wearing over my naked body."
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but Carnage is dead so really who cares, lets just forget about him and hope no one is stupid enough to bring him back.
Dude straight up talked to his symbiote
boo boo a bloo
That said, Cletus fully accepts the symbiote to the point where it replaces his blood if I remember correctly, or it lived inside him anyway, so he uses 'I'. Eddie accepts it but also resists against its baser rage and maintains a separate identity, so he uses 'We'. And the symbiote is only evil apparently because of the people it bonded with. In a What If, it bonded with a kid first or something, or someone very, very good and realised that its desire to get revenge on Peter wasn't worth what it was doing.
This is tragically wrong. Carnage makes -so- much more sense than Venom.