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  • Wonder_HippieWonder_Hippie __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Hehe. Slack off.

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  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    damn hippies suck

    Apparently you'd like to talk to Jerry too.

    Hippie's ass has a lot of gentlemen callers today.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    But think of all the black cocks that have to make do, not being gobbled! MikeMan can't slack off just because he doesn't feel like it, it is a duty he must observe for the sake of the cocks!

    Irene can I tell you something?

    Only I cannot express this sentiment with words.

    Drez on
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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    I'm 57 hours into Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (the first one) and I think I'd rather kill myself than keep playing.



    I'm still weighing out the two options.
    Just hit 72 on FFTA2

    it's like, I don't know why I keep picking it up, but I do

    it just bothers me that things remain undone

    Oboro on
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  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    But think of all the black cocks that have to make do, not being gobbled! MikeMan can't slack off just because he doesn't feel like it, it is a duty he must observe for the sake of the cocks!

    Irene can I tell you something?

    Only I cannot express this sentiment with words.

    Can you do it with anime screenshots?

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    I'm 57 hours into Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (the first one) and I think I'd rather kill myself than keep playing.



    I'm still weighing out the two options.
    Just hit 72 on FFTA2

    it's like, I don't know why I keep picking it up, but I do

    it just bothers me that things remain undone

    I'm so buying you a copy of Disgaea DS.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ahhhhh!! I scared myself Mike!

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  • FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    But think of all the black cocks that have to make do, not being gobbled! MikeMan can't slack off just because he doesn't feel like it, it is a duty he must observe for the sake of the cocks!

    Irene can I tell you something?

    Only I cannot express this sentiment with words.

    Can you do it with anime screenshots?

    Can you do it semaphore?

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Oboro wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    I'm 57 hours into Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (the first one) and I think I'd rather kill myself than keep playing.



    I'm still weighing out the two options.
    Just hit 72 on FFTA2

    it's like, I don't know why I keep picking it up, but I do

    it just bothers me that things remain undone

    I'm so buying you a copy of Disgaea DS.
    I didn't enjoy Disgaea or La Pucelle Tactics or Phantom Brave

    I'm not in it for the crack, only for the coke

    Oboro on
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    edited September 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Oboro wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    I'm 57 hours into Final Fantasy Tactics Advance (the first one) and I think I'd rather kill myself than keep playing.



    I'm still weighing out the two options.
    Just hit 72 on FFTA2

    it's like, I don't know why I keep picking it up, but I do

    it just bothers me that things remain undone

    I'm so buying you a copy of Disgaea DS.
    I didn't enjoy Disgaea or La Pucelle Tactics or Phantom Brave

    I'm not in it for the crack, I'm only here for the coke

    Divorce!

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    But think of all the black cocks that have to make do, not being gobbled! MikeMan can't slack off just because he doesn't feel like it, it is a duty he must observe for the sake of the cocks!

    Irene can I tell you something?

    Only I cannot express this sentiment with words.

    Can you do it with anime screenshots?

    Can you do it semaphore?

    I don't think that would work. It's non-verbal communication, but the signs still stand for words.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I just don't get it.

    I don't fucking get how you can sit down and make a game like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

    "Oh hey let's make a map where players can treasure hunt based on how they place tiles and some items are ONLY available by placing tiles in a certain way but let's not even remotely hint at these methods in the game itself oh yeah and let's limit the number of mission items they can carry to 64 but put like 200 in the game and oh don't forget some of them can only be obtained once so if they accidentally delete it that's it they can't 100% the game and let's also put out 17 million abilities and let's also send Godzilla out to America to stalk Drez and crush his spirit into little ashen bits."

    Drez on
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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    But think of all the black cocks that have to make do, not being gobbled! MikeMan can't slack off just because he doesn't feel like it, it is a duty he must observe for the sake of the cocks!

    Irene can I tell you something?

    Only I cannot express this sentiment with words.
    Yes, one's sentiments towards gobbling black cocks are notoriously hard to verbalize. In no small part because there's a black cock in your mouth.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oboro wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Oboro wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    But Rent that isn't your name anymore


    Now somebody answer my question while I check out the new apple stuff

    I have heard negative reviews of its actual replayability. You may actually be better off renting it.
    it seems silly to attack Spore on basis of its "replayability"

    if it's the kind of thing you're into, it's infinitely replayable

    it's polarizing if anything, but its strengths and its flaws are pretty pronouncedly plain

    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.
    Okay, so if you buy a game about creating things and dislike creating things, it has no replayability.

    If I buy Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 but hate doing sidequests, farming abilities, or earning new classes, the game has no replayability and a shelf life of about 10 hours.

    It doesn't really make it a fair avenue of attack, though.

    If you buy a game about creating things and letting them play in procedurally generated worlds and find it gets stale quickly because your options are limited in both instances, boom - you have suddenly become disenchanted with it, haven't you?

    You could still like creating things. But if there's not enough options aside from creation it's possible to get bored.

    Spore is not just about creating. If it were they would have just released the Creature Creator and charged you $50 for it, wouldn't they?

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    edited September 2008
    I don't think that would work. It's non-verbal communication, but the signs still stand for words.

    ...

    I hate you.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    But think of all the black cocks that have to make do, not being gobbled! MikeMan can't slack off just because he doesn't feel like it, it is a duty he must observe for the sake of the cocks!

    Irene can I tell you something?

    Only I cannot express this sentiment with words.

    Can you do it with anime screenshots?

    Can you do it semaphore?

    I don't think that would work. It's non-verbal communication, but the signs still stand for words.

    Only if you let me use the other end of the sign.

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    edited September 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    gobble gobble gobble mmm mmm mmm

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Oboro wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    Oboro wrote: »
    Medopine wrote: »
    But Rent that isn't your name anymore


    Now somebody answer my question while I check out the new apple stuff

    I have heard negative reviews of its actual replayability. You may actually be better off renting it.
    it seems silly to attack Spore on basis of its "replayability"

    if it's the kind of thing you're into, it's infinitely replayable

    it's polarizing if anything, but its strengths and its flaws are pretty pronouncedly plain

    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.
    Okay, so if you buy a game about creating things and dislike creating things, it has no replayability.

    If I buy Final Fantasy Tactics Advance 2 but hate doing sidequests, farming abilities, or earning new classes, the game has no replayability and a shelf life of about 10 hours.

    It doesn't really make it a fair avenue of attack, though.

    If you buy a game about creating things and letting them play in procedurally generated worlds and find it gets stale quickly because your options are limited in both instances, boom - you have suddenly become disenchanted with it, haven't you?

    You could still like creating things. But if there's not enough options aside from creation it's possible to get bored.

    Spore is not just about creating. If it were they would have just released the Creature Creator and charged you $50 for it, wouldn't they?

    Spore is where fuckfaces go to fuck faces.

    87%

    Drez on
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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I am sad but unsurprised that people generally seem to be disappointed by spore.

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    How so? If my interest is in a man with a great amount of experience gobbling black cock, I sure as hell would find merit in that criticism.

    As it happens, I judge my games "puchasability" by replayability. If it's highly replayable, or if the multiplayer is something I'll get a great deal of use out of, I'll buy it. Otherwise it's a rental.

    I didn't say Spore was a bad game unworthy of praise, it simply may not be worth buying.
    Oboro wrote: »
    it seems silly to attack Spore on basis of its "replayability"

    if it's the kind of thing you're into, it's infinitely replayable

    it's polarizing if anything, but its strengths and its flaws are pretty pronouncedly plain

    Line 1: Addressed above.

    Line 2: That works for anything, that's simply... too broad.

    Line 3: I wouldn't say "pronouncedly." Medo's interest is already obviously in the game, so she's clearly already approved of the concept. What she wanted was an idea of its practical worthiness. Spore may be bug-ridden. There could be hidden child porn all throughout the game.

    Who knows?

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  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    I just feel bad about spending money right now so renting I guess would be okay

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    I don't fucking get how you can sit down and make a game like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

    "Oh hey let's make a map where players can treasure hunt based on how they place tiles and some items are ONLY available by placing tiles in a certain way but let's not even remotely hint at these methods in the game itself oh yeah and let's limit the number of mission items they can carry to 64 but put like 200 in the game and oh don't forget some of them can only be obtained once so if they accidentally delete it that's it they can't 100% the game and let's also put out 17 million abilities and let's also send Godzilla out to America to stalk Drez and crush his spirit into little ashen bits."

    Why I dislike Final Fantasy games.

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    If you buy a game about creating things and letting them play in procedurally generated worlds and find it gets stale quickly because your options are limited in both instances, boom - you have suddenly become disenchanted with it, haven't you?

    You could still like creating things. But if there's not enough options aside from creation it's possible to get bored.

    Spore is not just about creating. If it were they would have just released the Creature Creator and charged you $50 for it, wouldn't they?
    Fair enough, I guess. There are plenty of people in the G&T thread who have simply been using the creators exclusively, though, so ...

    I'd say that the limitations are in one camp far more than the other, and that people who were excited for the procedurally-generated content have the most reason to be disappointed. It's still strange to levy the criticism against the game, though, in that it only has replay value. By virtue of the fact I "beat" the game within, what, six hours? I've already gotten another ten or so of "replay value," which is more than I can say for most games I've played.

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  • durandal4532durandal4532 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    I am sad but unsurprised that people generally seem to be disappointed by spore.
    Oh, it had way too high hopes going in to please everyone. I'm really looking forward to playing it when I've got more free time.

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm not saying Spore's not fun.

    Just not enough fun.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    I don't fucking get how you can sit down and make a game like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

    "Oh hey let's make a map where players can treasure hunt based on how they place tiles and some items are ONLY available by placing tiles in a certain way but let's not even remotely hint at these methods in the game itself oh yeah and let's limit the number of mission items they can carry to 64 but put like 200 in the game and oh don't forget some of them can only be obtained once so if they accidentally delete it that's it they can't 100% the game and let's also put out 17 million abilities and let's also send Godzilla out to America to stalk Drez and crush his spirit into little ashen bits."

    Why I dislike Final Fantasy games.

    I hate it mostly because of the Godzilla thing. But that thing you bolded is the second most annoying thing about them.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    I am sad but unsurprised that people generally seem to be disappointed by spore.
    Oh, it had way too high hopes going in to please everyone. I'm really looking forward to playing it when I've got more free time.

    "Oh look at me I'm a spore blah blah blah blah blah spore sporey spore spore"

    That's the problem right there ^

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    I just don't get it.

    I don't fucking get how you can sit down and make a game like Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.

    "Oh hey let's make a map where players can treasure hunt based on how they place tiles and some items are ONLY available by placing tiles in a certain way but let's not even remotely hint at these methods in the game itself oh yeah and let's limit the number of mission items they can carry to 64 but put like 200 in the game and oh don't forget some of them can only be obtained once so if they accidentally delete it that's it they can't 100% the game and let's also put out 17 million abilities and let's also send Godzilla out to America to stalk Drez and crush his spirit into little ashen bits."
    To be honest, this bothered me far more in FFX-2, where I was required to print out a 100% guide and play the game in accordance with it to unlock the perfect ending, which was the only reason I paid $7 for the game in the first place. It would've taken a dozen playthroughs to discover that sequence of events on my own. :|

    Oboro on
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    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    How so? If my interest is in a man with a great amount of experience gobbling black cock, I sure as hell would find merit in that criticism

    But MikeMan has a great amount of experience gobbling black cock.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    gobble gobble gobble mmm mmm mmm

    8-)

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    edited September 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    I'm not saying Spore's not fun.

    Just not enough fun.

    Well, gobbling black cocks is a tough standard of comparison.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    I'm not saying Spore's not fun.

    Just not enough fun.

    Well, gobbling black cocks is a tough standard of comparison.

    You would know.

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    edited September 2008
    coooooosssssssmoooooooosss

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • IreneDAdlerIreneDAdler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    If you buy a game about creating things and letting them play in procedurally generated worlds and find it gets stale quickly because your options are limited in both instances, boom - you have suddenly become disenchanted with it, haven't you?

    You could still like creating things. But if there's not enough options aside from creation it's possible to get bored.

    Spore is not just about creating. If it were they would have just released the Creature Creator and charged you $50 for it, wouldn't they?

    Well, that's not really what is described as "replayability," to me. Replayability to me means going through the game over again, and so it really doesn't apply to open-ended games because they never really end. Replayability is relevant to FFXII, Fable, or KOTOR, but not to games like The Sims or WoW. I haven't really played Spore, but it seems like an open-ended game, so "replayability" in the way I think of it doesn't really apply. What you're talking about to me is more like, I dunno, "enduring playability" or something.

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  • HKPacman420HKPacman420 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    So is anyone watching Fringe?



    I mean srsly.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh shit, I forgot about Fringe.

    Is it any good?

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  • JamesKeenanJamesKeenan Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    How so? If my interest is in a man with a great amount of experience gobbling black cock, I sure as hell would find merit in that criticism

    But MikeMan has a great amount of experience gobbling black cock.

    But how much. And what if my interests are... gargantuan. Maybe I can lend cursory, temporary appreciation for his effort, but maybe I had hopes for more cocks?

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2008
    MikeMan wrote: »
    I'm not saying Spore's not fun.

    Just not enough fun.
    To be honest, I'm very disappointed with it but I'm still having enough fun and imagine I will continue to have fun (I'd rather be playing right now, for instance). A lot of it just strikes me as lazy. They were decidedly unambitious in everything. Even the creators are lacking some features which were ostensibly culled to reduce file sizes or some bullshit, but ... they were sort of important features, I thought. Well, whatever.

    Things like the uniformity bother the most. Every Creature founds the same-looking Tribe. Every Creature has the same nest and the same idling habits. There's very little "living and breathing" world to it, which is a real shame.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Will Wright should team up with a clone of himself to make an even epicker game.

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    edited September 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    MikeMan wrote: »
    It's perfectly possible to criticize Spore for being fun initially but not having much replayability.

    It's perfectly possible to criticize you for not gobbling enough black cocks, but such a criticism would be wholly without merit.

    How so? If my interest is in a man with a great amount of experience gobbling black cock, I sure as hell would find merit in that criticism

    But MikeMan has a great amount of experience gobbling black cock.

    But how much. And what if my interests are... gargantuan. Maybe I can lend cursory, temporary appreciation for his effort, but maybe I had hopes for more cocks?

    So it's not so much the quantity of cocks but the quality?

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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