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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I dunno, it still doesn't sit well with me...if they can create a sorcerer class that I'm not sure is in GW lore, they can make a "wizard" elf class

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    A dwarf is not unbiased on the topic.

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    SelnerSelner Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Like I said, Pish, same guy. You think two Blood gods would stand for each other in the Warp? I don't. The only difference is the appearance and traditions of the followers.

    Grrrr.... not the same God. Khaine is not Khorne.

    It is very obvious in 40k lore that they are different. And while the game systems are different, the Gods are basically the same.

    Khaine is Khorne's sneaky, wiser older uncle.

    Khaine is seperate because he existed first, and refused to be "absorbed" into Khorne.

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    MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    I dunno, it still doesn't sit well with me...if they can create a sorcerer class that I'm not sure is in GW lore, they can make a "wizard" elf class

    "Witch" kind of means "chosen" when used by GW for dark elves. Like the Witch King.

    Mythic could have tried to implement an assassin, as they're kind of the male equivalent of Witch Elves. Hell, considering the odd choice to give them stealth, that would probably make more sense.

    Or they could have just implemented Corsairs.

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    MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Selner wrote: »
    Like I said, Pish, same guy. You think two Blood gods would stand for each other in the Warp? I don't. The only difference is the appearance and traditions of the followers.

    Grrrr.... not the same God. Khaine is not Khorne.

    It is very obvious in 40k lore that they are different. And while the game systems are different, the Gods are basically the same.

    Khaine is Khorne's sneaky, wiser older uncle.

    Khaine is seperate because he existed first, and refused to be "absorbed" into Khorne.

    Ever seen Khaine's rune?

    Khaine is as much Khorne as the Horned Rat is Tzeentch and Nurgle and Loec is Tzeentch.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Selner wrote: »
    Like I said, Pish, same guy. You think two Blood gods would stand for each other in the Warp? I don't. The only difference is the appearance and traditions of the followers.

    Grrrr.... not the same God. Khaine is not Khorne.

    It is very obvious in 40k lore that they are different. And while the game systems are different, the Gods are basically the same.

    Khaine is Khorne's sneaky, wiser older uncle.

    Khaine is seperate because he existed first, and refused to be "absorbed" into Khorne.

    Thats great, except that doesn't apply to WHFB.

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    HompHomp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Male sorcerer is in the fluff anyway. Read the new Dark Elf book, they mention that while most magic users are female in Dark Elf society, there are male ones. They're just treated with disdain and mistrust...well more so then other Dark Elves I guess.

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah a corsair class would be sweet

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Homp wrote: »
    The Male sorcerer is in the fluff anyway. Read the new Dark Elf book, they mention that while most magic users are female in Dark Elf society, there are male ones. They're just treated with disdain and mistrust...well more so then other Dark Elves I guess.

    Thats their loop whole to adding a sorcerer class ? really now ?

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    NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    I don't know man, maybe something about me being a guy playing a scantly clad pseudo fighter (I don't see how they can be fighters in that attire)... really now ? Maybe its just me...

    With the right hair doo and face it's pretty easy to make your witch elf look like a drag queen with a 5 o clock shadow, if that makes you feel any better when your slaughtering unicorns.

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    HompHomp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yes, really now. I don't see the problem with it. It's not a "loop" whatever that is. The male sorcerers were in the previous editions as well, they were just killed at birth when found. That doesn't mean there weren't any Male sorcerers, just makes them quite a bit more rare.
    With the right hair doo and face it's pretty easy to make your witch elf look like a drag queen with a 5 o clock shadow, if that makes you feel any better when your slaughtering unicorns.

    Sweet.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Homp wrote: »
    The Male sorcerer is in the fluff anyway. Read the new Dark Elf book, they mention that while most magic users are female in Dark Elf society, there are male ones. They're just treated with disdain and mistrust...well more so then other Dark Elves I guess.

    Thats their loop whole to adding a sorcerer class ? really now ?

    It's not a loop. I have a 4th edition male Sorcerer model. There has never been a male Witch Elf, ever.

    Also: Witch elves are a stealth assassin class in much the same way WoW Paladins are a ranged DPS class.

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Neva wrote: »
    rocka4him wrote: »
    I don't know man, maybe something about me being a guy playing a scantly clad pseudo fighter (I don't see how they can be fighters in that attire)... really now ? Maybe its just me...

    With the right hair doo and face it's pretty easy to make your witch elf look like a drag queen with a 5 o clock shadow, if that makes you feel any better when your slaughtering unicorns.

    Lol ! A unicorn-slaying, drag-queen proclaiming, dagger wielding, deadly assassin

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ok why did they not use the same loop hole for the female chosen, there aren't any in the game yet they exist in GW lore ?

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I think the witch elves and their lore and way of fighting is fucking fantastic

    I would have played one, but I fell in love with the Zealot instead

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Ok why did they not use the same loop hole for the female chosen, there aren't any in the game yet they exist in GW lore ?

    Good question.

    glares at Mythic

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    HompHomp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Ok why did they not use the same loop hole for the female chosen, there aren't any in the game yet they exist in GW lore ?

    Man, I don't know. Why don't you call up GW and pose these questions to them?

    There aren't any Lizardmen, Vampire Counts, Brettonians, and a whole host of other stuff in the game either, but all that stuff is in the Lore. It's a damn game, get over it.

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    IronixIronix Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Has this happened to anyone? For some strange reason WAR will not start up for me, and I get this error: warpatch.exe is not a valid win32 application. And the icon has changed from the WAR symbol to the default program symbol. This is really frustrating as I just ordered some computer parts to make it run smoothly on my computer and I won't be able to test it if I can't freaking play.

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    grrarggrrarg Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Zek wrote: »
    So, at level 40 when your spells don't all level up with you anymore, do most classes generally stop using their non-mastery spell schools? Though I guess at RR80 you can spec two lines to 15 and 14 now, so you only have to neglect one of them.

    Pretty much, unless there's a good secondary effect on the non-mastery ability. At high levels, off-spec abilities aren't very efficient. They do less damage.

    Example: A marauder's Flail with 15 in Monstrosity is treated as a level 40 ability and has a base damage of 262. With 0 points in Monstrosity, Flail is a level 25 ability with a base damage of 175.

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    MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Ok why did they not use the same loop hole for the female chosen, there aren't any in the game yet they exist in GW lore ?

    Male dark elf sorcerers weren't *removed* until 6th edition. They're back in 7th.

    Female chosen was a design decision not based on lore. Most chosen models are male, so Mythic decided it was more iconic and an excuse (or something) to not make female models in game. There's no lore anything behind that.

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ironix wrote: »
    Has this happened to anyone? For some strange reason WAR will not start up for me, and I get this error: warpatch.exe is not a valid win32 application. And the icon has changed from the WAR symbol to the default program symbol. This is really frustrating as I just ordered some computer parts to make it run smoothly on my computer and I won't be able to test it if I can't freaking play.

    we seem to have the same avatar

    how awkward

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    ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm a bit bummed that they didn't make any female marauders myself

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    HompHomp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Or female Orcs!

    There's a Bloodbowl model for one.

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    aunsophaunsoph Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'll second the whole no female Chosen or Marauders thing. Pretty obvious it was an excuse to shorten their graphical asset development time.

    I hope they add the option eventually.

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Homp wrote: »
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Ok why did they not use the same loop hole for the female chosen, there aren't any in the game yet they exist in GW lore ?

    Man, I don't know. Why don't you call up GW and pose these questions to them?

    There aren't any Lizardmen, Vampire Counts, Brettonians, and a whole host of other stuff in the game either, but all that stuff is in the Lore. It's a damn game, get over it.

    Chill Homp I'm just trying to understand whats going on with the classes, I'm not attacking you...

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    HompHomp Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Because their gender makes a difference?

    Internet Rage building!

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    Just_Bri_ThanksJust_Bri_Thanks Seething with rage from a handbasket.Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    Ironix wrote: »
    Has this happened to anyone? For some strange reason WAR will not start up for me, and I get this error: warpatch.exe is not a valid win32 application. And the icon has changed from the WAR symbol to the default program symbol. This is really frustrating as I just ordered some computer parts to make it run smoothly on my computer and I won't be able to test it if I can't freaking play.

    we seem to have the same avatar

    how awkward

    I think he needs to get a Tech Priest to chant Blessings over it while anointing it with the oils sacred to the machine spirits.


    ...I've got nothin'

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Maybe they'll add these options when the add the classes the took out (if they ever re-implement them)

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    aunsoph wrote: »
    I'll second the whole no female Chosen or Marauders thing. Pretty obvious it was an excuse to shorten their graphical asset development time.

    I hope they add the option eventually.

    They aren't in because Mythic is lazy.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh noes, I can't stare at boobs in my Warhammer game. An outrage I say.

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    IronixIronix Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    Ironix wrote: »
    Has this happened to anyone? For some strange reason WAR will not start up for me, and I get this error: warpatch.exe is not a valid win32 application. And the icon has changed from the WAR symbol to the default program symbol. This is really frustrating as I just ordered some computer parts to make it run smoothly on my computer and I won't be able to test it if I can't freaking play.

    we seem to have the same avatar

    how awkward

    Maybe we should meet up and exchange information. Who knows what else we have in common ;)

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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    i have 3 penises

    and by that i mean i am a marauder currently impale is so good

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    IronixIronix Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    i have 3 penises

    and by that i mean i am a marauder currently impale is so good

    I have three holes.

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh noes, I can't stare at boobs in my Warhammer game. An outrage I say.

    The female chosen have one "boob" and the other side is a male chest, the female portion is covered up ... so no we are outraged that we can't view boobs in the game...

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    grrarggrrarg Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Zzulu wrote: »
    I'm a bit bummed that they didn't make any female marauders myself

    Especially since there's a few totally bitching female marauder NPCs. Nina in Chaos Ch. 7 or Ch. 8 looks awesome.

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Oh noes, I can't stare at boobs in my Warhammer game. An outrage I say.

    Age of Conan is that-a-way. :P
    rocka4him wrote: »
    The female chosen have one "boob" and the other side is a male chest, the female portion is covered up ... so no we are outraged that we can't view boobs in the game...

    That's not a woman. :|

    Slaanesh is... different.

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    DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Oh noes, I can't stare at boobs in my Warhammer game. An outrage I say.

    The female chosen have one "boob" and the other side is a male chest, the female portion is covered up ... so no we are outraged that we can't view boobs in the game...

    Then why are you all whining?

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    AoC ... eugh !

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    MorskittarMorskittar Lord Warlock Engineer SeattleRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    New thread!

    It smells better than this old one.

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    rocka4himrocka4him Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    rocka4him wrote: »
    Oh noes, I can't stare at boobs in my Warhammer game. An outrage I say.

    The female chosen have one "boob" and the other side is a male chest, the female portion is covered up ... so no we are outraged that we can't view boobs in the game...

    Then why are you all whining?

    Scroll up bro

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