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G&T rule fixer-uppers

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  • ClarenceClarence Registered User
    edited November 2004
    bone daddy wrote:
    people are behaving like oxygen-crazed Victorians.

    Less oxygen, more chloroform. Drain my humours while you're at it, old boy.

    Clarence on
  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited November 2004
    Do I smell PA forums V2.0?

    Jasconius on
  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    Jasconius wrote:
    Do I smell PA forums V2.0?

    no.. you hear it explicity from Alpha. after these holidays.

    its the reason we havent been able to implement some of the smaller changes (not till after the bigger change)

    Deusfaux on
  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    One thing that needs to be included, and will be, is that a non-spoiler description of the spoiler must be included.

    I've suggested in the past that the spoiler tag be enhanced so that
    [spoiler="Super Mario Bros.. World 8-4"]Etc.[/spoiler]
    

    would work. In lieu of that, we can simply do it by hand.

    e.g. The Halo 2 thread is rife with spoilers. If someone hasn't described what it spoils, and you are 80% through the game, how can you know if its something you already know about and are ready to discuss?

    apotheos on


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  • StarfuckStarfuck Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    I think Alpha mentioned at one time the spoiler button would be added, but at a later time. I also agree with pheezer 100%, that guy has a good head on his shoulders.
    Henroid wrote:
    Add to Search rule:
    "We understand that you may have an urgent issue with a topic that may be at page 40, but we ask that you be persistant in the correct thread with what you have to say or ask."

    I'm not sure I understand this one. Is it suggesting people bump a thread on page 40 with a question if it's relevant to that thread?

    I also don't think the mods should have to have a public IM account. I'm sure if these guys aren't on the forum, they are probably doing something else and don't want to be bothered by forumers complaining of flaming or a bad thread.

    I know this wasn't part of the intent of the thread, but maybe Alpha could set up a report button to email the mods of a particular forum and also show who used the report button to prevent people from abusing it. Sort of a mod signal.

    Starfuck on
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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    apotheos wrote:
    One thing that needs to be included,


    .. IS MENTIONED RIGHT ABOVE YOUR POST!!!! :o


    and in the most recent spoiler thread

    Deusfaux on
  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    Spoilers without context should be considered joke spoilers. I recommend the titling or tagging of spoilers as well, since tagging a joke spoiler removes some of its punch.

    Paladin on
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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    a sticky on steam's forums



    Spoiler Warning
    Post a spoiler for Half-Life 2, fake or not, get banned.

    Fair warning.



    that's awesome.

    Deusfaux on
  • bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    Starfuck wrote:
    I also don't think the mods should have to have a public IM account. I'm sure if these guys aren't on the forum, they are probably doing something else and don't want to be bothered by forumers complaining of flaming or a bad thread.

    That's not the only thing you people complain about.

    bone daddy on
    Rogue helicopter?
    Ecoterrorism is actually the single largest terrorist threat at the moment. They don't usually kill people, but they blow up or set on fire very expensive things.
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited November 2004
    The spoiler whining is getting annoying. If you go into a thread entitled best game ending, you can probably guess that you're going to have stuff spoiled for you. Deal with it or don't go into the thread. Yes, it's good if people spoiler tag stuff, but the incessant bitching that our measures aren't draconian enough is really getting on my tits. Having to highlight every bloody thread just because some people lack self control is not a thought that I treasure.

    Tube on
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    This hurts but I deserve it

  • EchoEcho Moderator mod
    edited November 2004
    This is just retarded.

    That, my friends, is what the entire forums need to stop doing.

    Echo on
    Echo wrote: »
    Let they who have not posted about their balls in the wrong thread cast the first stone.
  • PokerPoker Registered User, ClubPA
    edited November 2004
    It is dumb, but I think I'd rather him do that than do a joke spoiler the regular way.

    Poker on
  • omgboomlolomgboomlol __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2004
    Echo wrote:
    This is just retarded.

    That, my friends, is what the entire forums need to stop doing.
    That fucker stole my joke! That was totally my joke.

    omgboomlol on
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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    Starfuck wrote:
    I'm not sure I understand this one. Is it suggesting people bump a thread on page 40 with a question if it's relevant to that thread?
    It was in regard to making threads on already existing topics.
    I also don't think the mods should have to have a public IM account. I'm sure if these guys aren't on the forum, they are probably doing something else and don't want to be bothered by forumers complaining of flaming or a bad thread.
    This is why I mentioned that it is voluntary. I made an AIM account specifically for being IM'ed about forum stuff when I was modded. It's not a "have to", it's a "can you"."

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  • redstormpopcornredstormpopcorn Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    Henroid wrote:
    I also don't think the mods should have to have a public IM account. I'm sure if these guys aren't on the forum, they are probably doing something else and don't want to be bothered by forumers complaining of flaming or a bad thread.
    This is why I mentioned that it is voluntary. I made an AIM account specifically for being IM'ed about forum stuff when I was modded. It's not a "have to", it's a "can you"."
    Can't multiple people be logged into a single AIM account at the same time? If so, then maybe a single account for each forum can be used as sort of an APB to that forum's mods.

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  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2004
    The spoiler whining is getting annoying. If you go into a thread entitled best game ending, you can probably guess that you're going to have stuff spoiled for you. Deal with it or don't go into the thread. Yes, it's good if people spoiler tag stuff, but the incessant bitching that our measures aren't draconian enough is really getting on my tits. Having to highlight every bloody thread just because some people lack self control is not a thought that I treasure.
    but ct. people need to be protected. if they find something out that they didn't want spoiled, then they would die. maybe from cancer. and most likely, all alone.
    maybe there should be an officially spoiled thread and an official pristine happy-fun no spoil-thread. and people could be happy.

    MulysaSempronius on
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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2004
    The spoiler whining is getting annoying. If you go into a thread entitled best game ending, you can probably guess that you're going to have stuff spoiled for you. Deal with it or don't go into the thread. Yes, it's good if people spoiler tag stuff, but the incessant bitching that our measures aren't draconian enough is really getting on my tits. Having to highlight every bloody thread just because some people lack self control is not a thought that I treasure.
    but ct. people need to be protected. if they find something out that they didn't want spoiled, then they would die. maybe from cancer. and most likely, all alone.
    maybe there should be an officially spoiled thread and an official pristine happy-fun no spoil-thread. and people could be happy.
    People will never be happy, and they will always be able to find something to complain about, and that's that. So I think it's best to just be reasonable.

    ceres on
    And it seems like all is dying, and would leave the world to mourn
  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    If you go into a thread entitled best game ending, you can probably guess that you're going to have stuff spoiled for you.


    Then who the hell is supposed to enjoy those kinds of threads? People who dont care about spoilers for anything at all? I believe that is a small minority.

    Everyone else cant use them at all because you have to assume that at least one post will spoil something you havent gotten to yet, and that's bullshit.


    "Having to highlight every bloody thread just because some people lack self control is not a thought that I treasure."


    Why would you have to highlight a thread? Its a individual post by post basis.

    I have THOUSANDS of posts, and maybe 5 of those were spoilers. OH MAN THE BURDEN OF TAGGING THOSE 5 POSTS WAS UNBEARABLE! ARGGG

    "that our measures aren't draconian enough"

    aside from that being the buzzword of the week, if steam forums can enforce a simple rule, I think we can too. I'd like to think we have a higher proportion of decency and consideration here.



    the point is even if you actively avoid obvious locations of spoilers, ("Halo 2 ending thread") it's not enough. entire thread subjects ("Best game endings thread") become offlimits because of their nature, and moreover, assholes unapologetically slap spoilers into random threads all the time ("Halo 2 deal at bestbuy! thread")


    and its totally a mindset of the forumers, that has to be encouraged/directed/focused by the rules. if other forums can mark their spoilers almost across the board, why cant ours? because of this lazy "ehh its not really a problem who cares oh noes spoilers" attitude? probably.

    you cant let a minority of people who truly dont give a shit about anything to ruin the experience for everyone who does.

    Deusfaux on
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited November 2004
    Gosh,what an angry young man. The fact remains that it's not really a very big problem though. One might even call it an insignificant, rubbish problem that isn't worth discusing. And highlighting a thread full of posts marked as spoilers involves highlighting the whole thread. Do you see how that works?

    Tube on
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    This hurts but I deserve it

  • bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    I have a brilliant idea.

    <.<
    >.>

    We need opinion and hyperbole and sarcasm tags. D&D could also use a conservative and a liberal tag, along with a good and evil tag set*. That way, instead of actually making a value judgment or anything silly like that for ourselves, or extrapolating from thread titles or surrounding text whether or not we would like to participate in a discussion, we could simply let the tags be our guide into bovine oblivion.

    *Instances of abuse of the good/evil pairing will be punished with banishment. Abuse will be at the sole discretion of the moderator.

    bone daddy on
    Rogue helicopter?
    Ecoterrorism is actually the single largest terrorist threat at the moment. They don't usually kill people, but they blow up or set on fire very expensive things.
  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    :o

    You have shooooooooooowwwn us the way, brother BD! The way to the Promised Land!!!

    *singin' and clappin'*

    The Cat on
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  • bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    The Cat wrote:
    :o

    You have shooooooooooowwwn us the way, brother BD! The way to the Promised Land!!!

    *singin' and clappin'*

    Sister Cat has seen the light! Have the rest of you heeeeeeeeathens seen the light yet? I want to hear it if you have!

    I say, have you seen it?

    bone daddy on
    Rogue helicopter?
    Ecoterrorism is actually the single largest terrorist threat at the moment. They don't usually kill people, but they blow up or set on fire very expensive things.
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited November 2004
    We need [stupid] tags but they can only be applied on someone else's post.

    Unknown User on
  • bone daddybone daddy Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    Beelzebub is whispering in the ear of some of you hear tonight. I want you to stand up and be cleansed! Stand up right now and pruh-raaaaaaaaise Jesus. Right now, folks, right now.

    bone daddy on
    Rogue helicopter?
    Ecoterrorism is actually the single largest terrorist threat at the moment. They don't usually kill people, but they blow up or set on fire very expensive things.
  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited November 2004
    bone daddy wrote:
    Beelzebub is whispering in the ear of some of you hear tonight. I want you to stand up and be cleansed! Stand up right now and pruh-raaaaaaaaise Jesus. Right now, folks, right now.

    How about those stupid tags?

    Tube on
    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    This hurts but I deserve it

  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited November 2004
    bone daddy wrote:
    Beelzebub is whispering in the ear of some of you hear tonight. I want you to stand up and be cleansed! Stand up right now and pruh-raaaaaaaaise Jesus. Right now, folks, right now.

    How about those stupid tags?

    See? Perfect example.

    Unknown User on
  • MulysaSemproniusMulysaSempronius but also susie nyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2004
    oh man spoiler tags so naturally leads into tagging and labeling everything. it's not like they are a practical tool that can be used.
    who needs nice practical things. man.
    i want a stupid tag for my posts.

    MulysaSempronius on
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  • DeusfauxDeusfaux Registered User regular
    edited November 2004
    oh man spoiler tags so naturally leads into tagging and labeling everything.

    nope. just spoilers. which should hardly be a decent proportion of your posts anyways.

    Deusfaux on
  • OrthancOrthanc Death Lite, Only 1 Calorie Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    oh man spoiler tags so naturally leads into tagging and labeling everything. it's not like they are a practical tool that can be used.
    who needs nice practical things. man.
    i want a stupid tag for my posts.

    Damn it susie, spoiler that shit. I didn't want to know what spoiler tags are being used for.

    Orthanc on
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  • TDLTDL ClubPA, __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2004
    This place has gotten kind of pathetic with the bitching and the moaning.

    I'm looking at a certain person.

    He knows who he is.

    TDL on
    Meet me on my vast veranda
    My sweet, untouched Miranda
    And while the seagulls are crying
    We fall but our souls are flying
  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    TDL wrote:
    This place has gotten kind of pathetic with the bitching and the moaning.

    I'm looking at a certain person.

    He knows who he is.


    [spoiler:b4ed08729a]Do you mean Deusfaux? Oh shi-[/spoiler:b4ed08729a]

    The Cat on
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  • TDLTDL ClubPA, __BANNED USERS
    edited November 2004
    AERIS DIES!

    DARTH VADER IS LUKE'S FATHER!

    TDL on
    Meet me on my vast veranda
    My sweet, untouched Miranda
    And while the seagulls are crying
    We fall but our souls are flying
  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited November 2004
    you rebel

    The Cat on
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  • StillInTheDarkStillInTheDark Registered User
    edited December 2004
    In the rules thread in G&T, I would like to ask that the subject of modded consoles be addressed. I looked in the rules thread, saw nothing telling me I couldn't ask about modding a console (I only saw rules about emulators and ROM'S), so I made the thread, and it was deleted, after which I was told threads about modding consoles are against the rules.

    So I'd like to suggest that you put this in the rules, and if if it's there and I missed it somehow, state it more clearly and explicitly.

    Thanks.

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  • HenroidHenroid Mexican kicked from Immigration Thread Centrism is Racism :3Registered User regular
    edited December 2004
    The rules do not specifically mention modded consoles. Though, I think it should because it is quite a gray area. The current mod team knows what is best, but in any case it should be addressed.

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