Isn't JoTW supposed to be a raid wide buff or is it strictly a party only type thing. Because putting a retadin in that group for some mana regen isn't a bad idea.
Raid wide. There are no more party only abilities.
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Unless you have 2 ret pallies, 2 prot pallies, or one of both, then you're gonna want the holy pallies to keep a judgment up on the boss at all times.
You should always have one ret pally :O
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The other classes have some seriously awesome raid buffs as well.
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You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
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Unless you have 2 ret pallies, 2 prot pallies, or one of both, then you're gonna want the holy pallies to keep a judgment up on the boss at all times.
You should always have one ret pally :O
Well, assuming no drastic loss in power level, we should see how quickly a 10-paladin Kara run will go in the gap between 3.0 and WotLK.
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You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
And really its all dps. Not just one group. Like I said, no more party only stuff.
You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
Not to mention the 3% haste paladins can give.
All of those are covered by other classes as well, you don't have to bring a Ret Paladin.
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edited September 2008
The +3 crit is provided by what?
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You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
Not to mention the 3% haste paladins can give.
All of those are covered by other classes as well, you don't have to bring a Ret Paladin.
Yes, but it use to be when a ret joined the raid people went "oh.....a ret pally". Now they'll be "OH! a Ret Pally!"
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You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
Not to mention the 3% haste paladins can give.
All of those are covered by other classes as well, you don't have to bring a Ret Paladin.
Raids are progressing to a point where you don't need to bring any specific thing. You bring people because you want to. So thanks for that.
You really want a prot pally in the raid no matter what for BoSanc on the tank.
Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
Not to mention the 3% haste paladins can give.
All of those are covered by other classes as well, you don't have to bring a Ret Paladin.
Raids are progressing to a point where you don't need to bring any specific thing. You bring people because you want to. So thanks for that.
Yes, that was my point, he said "Ret Pally no matter what"
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I love the fact that I just played around with the newest talent calculator and found that I can literally spend 66 points in one tree and not feel the slightest bit bad about it.
I forgot, was there some mention of modifying HoJ to act like an interrupt even on stun-immune bosses? 'Cause that would make between-3.0-and-WotLK paladin Kara runs somewhat simpler, rather than that old 10-paladin video where they couldn't stop Julianne's heals and had to bring in alts.
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edited September 2008
Yes. Pallies will have to do hammar! Rotations.
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I love the fact that I just played around with the newest talent calculator and found that I can literally spend 66 points in one tree and not feel the slightest bit bad about it.
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Yeah, there's virtually nothing bad in the ret tree right now. Except for like, deflection. But that's where I dump the 1 point left.
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(That would be me)
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And can someone make a new thread? That's it. I'ma closin this one. someone make a new one.
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Raid wide. There are no more party only abilities.
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You should always have one ret pally :O
Hell, between auras, blessings, and judgments, every raid will require one of each pally spec.
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Ret pally no matter what for the +3 raidwide crit, JotW, and keeping up one DPS group via their aoe heals.
Well, assuming no drastic loss in power level, we should see how quickly a 10-paladin Kara run will go in the gap between 3.0 and WotLK.
nine ret pallies and one prot.
Not to mention the 3% haste paladins can give.
And really its all dps. Not just one group. Like I said, no more party only stuff.
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All of those are covered by other classes as well, you don't have to bring a Ret Paladin.
+5% crit if I am not mistaken.
Master Poisoner in Assassination for Rogues.
That's a substitute for Feral Leader of the Pack.
Yes, but it use to be when a ret joined the raid people went "oh.....a ret pally". Now they'll be "OH! a Ret Pally!"
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That's a buff, pallies use a debuff.
Jerk.
Unless of course munkus is there, which he probably will be.
Raids are progressing to a point where you don't need to bring any specific thing. You bring people because you want to. So thanks for that.
Yes, that was my point, he said "Ret Pally no matter what"
I'm not taking improved might.
Mighty bitch.
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Yeah, there's virtually nothing bad in the ret tree right now. Except for like, deflection. But that's where I dump the 1 point left.
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