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Hunters unite! I passed NJ shotgun hunting test. Woo.

Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Not like it was really hard or anything but I have successfully passed the NJ state hunters exam and I am now certified to hunt in NJ with my shotgun.

Any other hunters out there?

December will be my first time out, I want to get myself a deer and eat the meat of something I killed myself. Should be pretty great.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I killed some deer once.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?

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    TachTach Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Good. At level 10, you'll be able to tame your first pet. I'd suggest a Crag Boar.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?

    In alabama you can use an automatic crossbow.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    In alabama you can use an automatic crossbow.
    They have laws about how you can hunt in Alabama?

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    In alabama you can use an automatic crossbow.
    They have laws about how you can hunt in Alabama?
    They're really more like guidelines.

    Last time I went bird hunting we were in a baited field and the plan was that if an official showed up one of the guys would take off running in hopes that he would give chase. Then the rest of us would just hop in the truck and drive off, picking him up at designated point (or at the jail, I suppose) later. Apparently, they had successfully employed this tactic before.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    In alabama you can use an automatic crossbow.
    They have laws about how you can hunt in Alabama?
    They're really more like guidelines.

    Last time I went bird hunting we were in a baited field and the plan was that if an official showed up one of the guys would take off running in hopes that he would give chase. Then the rest of us would just hop in the truck and drive off, picking him up at designated point (or at the jail, I suppose) later. Apparently, they had successfully employed this tactic before.
    This is what heroin dealers do.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In alabama people have been killed for shooting big deer on other peoples land. Killed violently

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In alabama people have been killed for shooting big deer on other peoples land. Killed violently
    I would be more surprised if you had said that people haven't been killed in Alabama for that.

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    Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?

    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?

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    kdrudykdrudy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Not like it was really hard or anything but I have successfully passed the NJ state hunters exam and I am now certified to hunt in NJ with my shotgun.

    Any other hunters out there?

    December will be my first time out, I want to get myself a deer and eat the meat of something I killed myself. Should be pretty great.

    Congratulations, just remember to be safe.

    I really only know how gun deer hunting works in Wisconsin, there is the one week of gun hunting a year at the end of November and regulations on number and type of deer you can shoot (all based on how you registered and if you applied for extra tags and such) and requirements of plenty of blaze orange. How does the season work in NJ?

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    WulfWulf Disciple of Tzeentch The Void... (New Jersey)Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?

    Its the only modern gun you're allowed to use, even though they let you use slugs. Yeah, other guns are too powerful, but slugs in a shotgun... Okay!

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    BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.

    or they can adjust the spread.

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    edited September 2008
    Tach wrote: »
    Good. At level 10, you'll be able to tame your first pet. I'd suggest a Crag Boar.

    Three replies. I'm surprised it took that long, actually.

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    Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In NJ most people use slugs now, which is what I will be doing as well.

    I will be getting a scope mounted on my gun in the next month or so and I will be good to go come December.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.
    So... you can use a shotgun with slugs, but not a rifle?

    What? o_O

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    In NJ most people use slugs now, which is what I will be doing as well.

    I will be getting a scope mounted on my gun in the next month or so and I will be good to go come December.
    You're getting a scope mounted on your shotgun?

    Okay, New Jersey is ridiculous.

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    JebusUDJebusUD Adventure! Candy IslandRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.
    So... you can use a shotgun with slugs, but not a rifle?

    What? o_O

    Don't rifles shoot at higher velocities?

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    edited September 2008
    Yeah, that makes no goddamn sense.

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    acronomiconacronomicon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.
    So... you can use a shotgun with slugs, but not a rifle?

    What? o_O

    Not the same range...or at least that's the argument I always hear. A lot of times the rules are made by people based on what sounds good, not on what actually makes sense. I haven't heard too many stories of rifle rounds traveling too far and injuring someone, certainly not enough that it makes sense to restrict it to shotguns.

    'Course NJ might have a completely different reason for the ban on rifles.

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    adamadam Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Where do you go to hunt in NJ?

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    adam wrote: »
    Where do you go to hunt in NJ?
    The toxic waste dumps.

    The deer get really big. Also, they have gills.

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    acronomiconacronomicon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    adam wrote: »
    Where do you go to hunt in NJ?
    The toxic waste dumps.

    The deer get really big. Also, they have gills.

    Any truth to the rumor that they're starting to evolve a hunter orange coloration as a protective mechanism?

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    El DudarinoEl Dudarino Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    man i went and shoot almost 250 rounds out of my shotguns yesterday.

    It was awesome.

    My shoulder is purple today.

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    GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.
    or they can adjust the spread.
    Or use buckshot rather than birdshot. In fact, if you hunt deer with birdshot, my boot would like to discuss it with you.
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    In NJ most people use slugs now, which is what I will be doing as well.

    I will be getting a scope mounted on my gun in the next month or so and I will be good to go come December.
    You're getting a scope mounted on your shotgun?

    Okay, New Jersey is ridiculous.
    Why not? It's just a big, slow bullet and the standard irons on a shotgun (usually either a bead or ghost ring) aren't usually worth a shit for hunting anything without wings.

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    falling_stonefalling_stone Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.
    or they can adjust the spread.
    Or use buckshot rather than birdshot. In fact, if you hunt deer with birdshot, my boot would like to discuss it with you.
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    In NJ most people use slugs now, which is what I will be doing as well.

    I will be getting a scope mounted on my gun in the next month or so and I will be good to go come December.
    You're getting a scope mounted on your shotgun?

    Okay, New Jersey is ridiculous.
    Why not? It's just a big, slow bullet and the standard irons on a shotgun (usually either a bead or ghost ring) aren't usually worth a shit for hunting anything without wings.

    you'd be surprised how accurate a scoped shotgun is at decent range. Creepy accurate. Like No Country for Old Men Accurate.

    I'm from upstate new york originally. We're allowed rifles up there. But there are not as many deer (leastways not as many as PA or NJ) so it evens out a little.

    Now i live in Maryland. I would cringe at firing off a rifle in this super populated area even if I was in hunting areas. I think a shotgun would be more suited for the terrain as well.

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    I Am Not A BearI Am Not A Bear Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    New Jersey sounds fucking retarded. A shotgun with a scope, lulz. Here I hunt with my 30-06 Remington just fine with a Bushnell x 4 scope.

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    GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    New Jersey sounds fucking retarded. A shotgun with a scope, lulz. Here I hunt with my 30-06 Remington just fine with a Bushnell x 4 scope.
    I imagine you don't run the risk of over-shooting into houses. Jersey has plenty of wooded lands, but the burbs abut them. As falling_stone notes, a shotgun is plenty accurate with a low powered scope, you just probably wouldn't take a 2-300 yard shot. A red dot or ACOG actually works pretty well. I'll reiterate, a shotgun bead is shit for precision.

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    falling_stonefalling_stone Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    New Jersey sounds fucking retarded. A shotgun with a scope, lulz. Here I hunt with my 30-06 Remington just fine with a Bushnell x 4 scope.
    I imagine you don't run the risk of over-shooting into houses. Jersey has plenty of wooded lands, but the burbs abut them. As falling_stone notes, a shotgun is plenty accurate with a low powered scope, you just probably wouldn't take a 2-300 yard shot. A red dot or ACOG actually works pretty well. I'll reiterate, a shotgun bead is shit for precision.

    this man is correct.

    though I will saw that a 30-06 is a must if you have to kill every single mother fucking deer in the woods. You should accept no substitutes. It sounds like a goddamned arm cannon though. My father uses the 270 savage. Also FUCK loud.

    I carry the lever action Marlin 30-30 for weight and utility, and general accuracy. I like my gun.

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    GungHoGungHo Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    A .30-06 is pretty much all you need for the Americas. You only really need to get bigger if you're in Africa or Asia.

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    amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I've got a remington 30-06 with a twilight scope (reflects light better so that I get an extra half hour out of the day, since night vision is illegal and all) and it's a semi auto.

    It's pretty nice. I've done some accurate work at about 100 meters.

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    DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    I hunt pheasant and quail. I don't go after anything bigger than that, really. Also, I haven't gone for at least a year.

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    DocDoc Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    GungHo wrote: »
    A .30-06 is pretty much all you need for the Americas. You only really need to get bigger if you're in Africa or Asia.

    Even .308 is okay. Maybe not for grizzlies or bison.

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    JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Place at the tableRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    JebusUD wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    Lord Jezo wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    You're allowed to use a shotgun on deer in NJ?
    Shotgun, bow and arrow, and black powder rifles.
    Doesn't a shotgun ruin the meat?
    They can use slugs.
    So... you can use a shotgun with slugs, but not a rifle?

    What? o_O

    Don't rifles shoot at higher velocities?

    Shotguns don't over-shoot the way a rifle does. The lethal range on a hunting rifle round (not the accurate range, mind you, I'm talking about the range at which the bullet can still hurt someone badly by accident) is up around 5 miles for some of the bigger rifle rounds. A shotgun, it's more like a half mile (again, not the range you can actually shoot at with accuracy, but the distance the shit will fly before becoming harmless)

    A lot of the eastern states have hunting for white-tail deer in particular with shotguns.

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