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WoW: The New BLT: Bacon of LighT [Chat and General Discussion]
Munkus Beaver
You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
Main tanks are falling everywhere.
"This ham sammich! It's too much!
Priests don't got the mustard.
"I've only got condiments! What more do ye want!"
Druids don't got the beef.
"Even if I COULD shift into a cow..."
Shaman are a bunch of pussies.
"We need to get back to nature and eat organic rice-ham!"
Only one class brings the bacon.
"I'm here to bring that ham sammich out from darkness!"
This fall, get ready for...
"[tiny]Iwassupposedtofilledyourdarksoulwith[/tiny]BACON OF LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT"
Though! The BEASTS of Ravenholdt will be back come expansion. I will be delayed by lawschool finals, however. SO COUNT ON ME FOR DECEMBER SHENANIGANS! SEXY BEASTS NEVER SAY DIE!
"This ham sammich! It's too much!
Priests don't got the mustard.
"I've only got condiments! What more do ye want!"
Druids don't got the beef.
"Even if I COULD shift into a cow..."
Shaman are a bunch of pussies.
"We need to get back to nature and eat organic rice-ham!"
Only one class brings the bacon.
"I'm here to bring that ham sammich out from darkness!"
This fall, get ready for...
"[tiny]Iwassupposedtofilledyourdarksoulwith[/tiny]BACON OF LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT"
Though! The BEASTS of Ravenholdt will be back come expansion. I will be delayed by lawschool finals, however. SO COUNT ON ME FOR DECEMBER SHENANIGANS! SEXY BEASTS NEVER SAY DIE!
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Too late at this point for them to add more PvE realms, probably.
also i have a boner i want 3.0 right now
if it dropped tuesday we'd have about 40 days of fooling around before WotLK?
sounds about right actually
The trifecta
This week no chance
Next week slim chance
The week after fairly good chance
Taking on all bets!
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This, of course, changes whenever they do a major change to the beta patch.
You have exceptionally bad timing, you know that?
Damn, you've got a whole hell of a lot of awesome coming your way.
Every time I log into beta, I go "I don't really want to have to do all of this twice." When I log into live I don't feel like playing my 70s and the shaman I'm Leveling is feeling kind of "meh." I want a DK.
But yeah, I doubt this will be the week. Probably next week or the week after.
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Then it goes live.
Why's that? He's about two or three weeks away from McAwesome patch and you need BC in order to play Wrath anyway. With any luck he'll hit 70 right when Wrath hits.
Shit.
The dark iron dwarves and the scourge are here run!
You lives and beer are forfit!
How is this bad for PvP? It means that they don't have to focus on the tired paradigm of X class/spec has to be a god of healing because they are impotent otherwise.
Hmm.
EDIT: I am thrilled about the devs wanting everyone to be on a semi-even playing field regarding DPS.
EDIT: Don't worry, they've stated that "Pure DPS" classes will still be maybe 5% or so ahead of "Hybrid classes."
I do still love PvP on my ret pally, since I am usually a tiny god who can decimate half the field if I play my cards right. My hunter has always been inept in PvP when he hasn't had...well, imagine my hunter is a quarterback. With a good offensive-line, he is an indestructible master of war and death.
A Dranei on the sidelines is yelling "STAY IN THE POCKET!"
I feel the same way, as a warrior. But, the common rebuttal is "Well you can go to town and become an awesome tank/healer." And it's true, but when I'm specced for DPS, DPS is all I can do. You're not going to find Fury warriors tanking raid bosses, and you won't find Ret Paladins MT healing.
Every spec should be pvp viable and every spec should be pve viable, but not in the same way.
The prot warrior epitomizes this philosophy, I think. They excel at tanking, are not total dead-weight when they can't tank, and they can PvP effectively by bringing loads of utility in lieu of their sacrificed DPS.
And, similar to their raid role, you're not going to want a ton of prot warriors, since their utility drops off the more of them you get.
Shit, I don't even have the fucking gear for that, because it takes weeks and weeks of instancing and months of badges to gear up for just one spec.
That said, I do appreciate that they're making tanking fun by boosting the damage output (kind of a "well, duh" in my mind). I'm just saying that I'd be surprised if things remain this way for a super long time, because the pure classes will start wondering "why even bother being just DPS, when I could have the option of being whatever fits the situation for a mere 50g?"
Edit: and yeah, I recognize that there are gear requirements for different specs, but between craftables and the AH (especially in WotLK), you can put a nice set together that'll get you through at least beginner raids with ease. And honestly, how often do you run through raids as (x) spec and a piece for a different spec drops and you take it because, hell, it's better than it getting sharded.
Some people have no interest in doing anything other than DPS. And a "mere 50g" is far removed from the actual cost of being a great tank and a great DPSer. My warrior's DPS gear is good. His tanking gear is shit. As a DPS warrior, I'll get tanking gear that has already gone to the real tanks. Meaning my Tanking gear will usually be a tier (or more likely 2) behind my DPS gear. I'm not going to, say, top meters on Brutallus, respec the next week, and tank Brutallus.
The thought had crossed my mind as well - If hybrids can do all of their roles as well (or near enough) as "pure" classes, why roll anything other than a hybrid? I still think there's more to consider than having options though. People will roll whatever class they are interested in/enjoy playing. I already have a resto shaman at 70 and I could just gear him up for elemental and play ranged dps, but I'm leveling my mage because I like my mage.
I'm just saying that, with four classes in this game that can only DPS, gear or not, spec or not, that's all they can do, it's a bit odd to see "well, my paladin/warrior can do comparable damage to that hunter/mage/whatever, let's bring him instead" rather than "we need at least a few pure DPS classes in here to increase our chances for success".
On the one hand, yeah, it's easy to say "well that just opens up possibilities for progression", but on the other, you've got classes potentially sidelined because no matter what they do, they don't have the option of tossing out an emergency heal (lower-quality though it may be) or off-tanking.
It's just a design flaw in the game, to me. Why not just make everyone a hybrid at this point - rogues could evasion tank like the Ninja class in FFXI, hunters could have viable tanking pets for raids, warlocks could use their demon form to tank and mages could tank using, hell I don't know, an improved version of Ice Armor or whatever. I'm spitballing, but you get the idea.
I'm on a good pace to get it for my druid (which is the priority due to predicted difficulty getting Swift Flight Form after WotLK hits), I wonder if maybe getting it for my main mage is in the cards? Only one way to find out.
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The clearest and most direct counterpoint to this is because a DPS class can spec to do DPS in three ways (that all use the same gear), whereas a Hybrid can spec to do it in one way (sometimes more than one, but requires completely different gear).
A mage can go from fire to ice for giggles much easier than a paladin can go ret to prot or a shaman enhancement to elemental.