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Pokémon (Tournament) - Raising POKEMON is a drag, man.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    ok that right there is hilarious.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    karma II the return of more karma!

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Life orb, leftovers, expert belt, lum berry, choice item, gimmick/shit item.

    There are not really that many useful combinations of 6 items when they all have to be different.

    There are three choice items. Rest users use Chesto, dragons can carry Yache, hilarious antics with Salacs and so forth.

    Take a standard team of Choice/Choice/Life Orb/Leftovers/Leftovers/Lum or something. I like it so much more if you have to use something different on one of those leftovers, or drop the lum from dragonite to give it yache or whatever the hell.

    Yeah the something different for the leftovers is just going to be one of those health berries or a brightpowder or something. It is not like having 2 lums instead of a chesto and a lum makes things that much [strike]more[/strike]less exciting.

    I think you just don't like leftovers.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyone want to battle?

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Yeah the something different for the leftovers is just going to be one of those health berries or a brightpowder or something. It is not like having 2 lums instead of a chesto and a lum makes things that much [strike]more[/strike]less exciting.

    I think you just don't like leftovers.

    Well yes, I did already admit this. I don't like leftovers, and I rather like limiting them to 1.

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    dingus xavierdingus xavier Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I have a lot of cool non-tank pokemon that require leftovers to be at least somewhat effective.

    Limiting leftovers to 1 forces me to be LESS creative with my teams as I always have to have at least 2 choice users, and possibly one guy holding a useless shit item like sitrus berry or shell bell or bleaahhhhh.

    So, in summary, ITEM CLAUSE IS THE SUCK

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    All limiting leftovers does is decrease the effectiveness of tank strategies.

    I daresay I think you are RACIST against tank-pokemon.

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    JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ...and the battle goes to Munkus. Good fight.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    woo 6-0 sweep!

    Alright, I need to recap here.

    Switches to pert, gets a critical hit and dies in the first move of the game.
    Zard gets frozen by ice punch.

    I had some good predictions in the first attempt, but the full match had lady luck smiling on me.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    All limiting leftovers does is decrease the effectiveness of tank strategies.

    I daresay I think you are RACIST against tank-pokemon.

    Tank strategies are also boring and dumb.

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    ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, I like leftovers since it actually keeps me alive in a sandstorm. I wouldn't mind item clause if people didn't abuse sandstream and stall until things faint. To me that's more obnoxious than spamming leftovers.

    Jayson, I'll be on for our fight.

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    All limiting leftovers does is decrease the effectiveness of tank strategies.

    I daresay I think you are RACIST against tank-pokemon.

    I've had more than three battles where two tanks stare each other down with leftovers until one dies to struggle. Sometimes I wish I could build an effective team with no tanks, so I could win FAST or lose FAST as to not waste my day watching pokemon recover.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    I hate stall tactics in general.

    OH BOY LET'S SWITCH AGAIN AND TANK OH MY DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE NEXT HOUR NO SIR

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    dingus xavierdingus xavier Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Now that there's no Item Clause I can use Cacturne, Slowbro and Torkoal on the same team without giving Slowbro a Sitrus Berry (SHIT) and Cacturne a Big Root (SHIIIIIIT).

    Is that so goddamn wrong? No, no it isn't.

    Oh, and teams of bulky sweepers require multiple leftovers too! Think of the bulky sweepers consarn it!

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    All limiting leftovers does is decrease the effectiveness of tank strategies.

    I daresay I think you are RACIST against tank-pokemon.

    Turning off items in smash is also boring and dumb.

    Munkus we are not even talking about smash brothers here.

    Removing item clause allows a wider range of viable strategies. The only downside is that y'all are whiners who don't like those strategies! If you are so helpless and don't have time to wait around, the run button is right on the bottom of the screen.

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Cacturne is awesome with a focus sash.

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    dingus xavierdingus xavier Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    You obviously are using a different KIND of Cacturne. This is NOT a Swords Dance variant. It is SubPunchSeed, and thus needs Leftovers.

    Multiple leftovers does not mean stall! it means inreased viability for less cookie-cutter teams!

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    JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ...okay, Chen, I'm up and running. Ready when you are.

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    ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Why isn't there a random wifi battle option in D/P/Pt? I know there is one on PBR, but I don't have or want a Wii =P

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    AshtonDragonAshtonDragon AKA The Nix Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyway, you'll notice that I haven't forced anyone in this tournament to abide by Item Clause, despite being allowed to do so. I don't like it, but I'll use whatever rules everyone else is going with.

    Until everyone starts busting out Celebis, at which time I'll stop playing entirely.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Look, I hate anybody who runs multiple leftovers teams. THere are far too many bulky cocks that you can field and toss leftovers on them all as they stall and make the game not ufn.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Munkus your next opponent is Terrendos.

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    ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Who's mine? J/w

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    InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So Speed, you're my next opponent? Is your connection any better? I can do Shoddy if necessary but I certainly wouldn't prefer it.
    If I used shoddy I would definitely like to give my pokemon perfects IVs and thats means some of there EVs would be redistributed. Plus Venomoth certainly wouldn't want to stay docile.
    Entering my pokemon as is on Shoddy would look so silly.

    PS I don't understand this thread title at all! Is that still a pokemon reference?

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyway, you'll notice that I haven't forced anyone in this tournament to abide by Item Clause, despite being allowed to do so. I don't like it, but I'll use whatever rules everyone else is going with.

    Until everyone starts busting out Celebis, at which time I'll stop playing entirely.

    What about how we've tacitly agreed to allow the catchable un-uber legendaries in Platinum once it's come out in the US?

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    InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    What about how we've tacitly agreed to allow the catchable un-uber legendaries in Platinum once it's come out in the US?
    I don't believe we agreed on that. I sure as hell don't agree.
    and never will.

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    ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Yah but celebi and any and all other events arn't allowed.

    I didn't think we agreed on it either, we just put it as an option.

    I still don't agree regardless.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    I run multiple leftovers, but they're all on Pokemon that are slow but powerful that aren't going to be sweeping. It also helps me deal with my Sand Stream.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So Speed, you're my next opponent? Is your connection any better? I can do Shoddy if necessary but I certainly wouldn't prefer it.
    If I used shoddy I would definitely like to give my pokemon perfects IVs and thats means some of there EVs would be redistributed. Plus Venomoth certainly wouldn't want to stay docile.
    Entering my pokemon as is on Shoddy would look so silly.

    PS I don't understand this thread title at all! Is that still a pokemon reference?

    I've been able to connect fairly consistently today, so we should be good. Let me get a team together and I'll see you online.

    Pretty sure the reference is to one of the video games you can see a kid playing in RBY.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh, and Blue's up against Terrendos.
    Munkus your next opponent is Terrendos.

    Hmm.

    Ink: Yeah it's from pokemon. Sometimes there are video games that you can look at.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Zerokku wrote: »
    Yah but celebi and any and all other events arn't allowed.

    I didn't think we agreed on it either, we just put it as an option.

    I still don't agree regardless.

    A lot of people seemed at least open to the idea.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    Oh, and Blue's up against Terrendos.

    Damn what give me a second.

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    ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Man I feel bad about this win. I thought for sure you had an electric attack to fry Gyarados with. I guess there's not a lot to say than to keep at it.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Has Reynolds been on at all, today?

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    JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Just not my tournament, I guess. Got out-skilled by Chen, and swept under the rug. Good match.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    What about how we've tacitly agreed to allow the catchable un-uber legendaries in Platinum once it's come out in the US?
    I don't believe we agreed on that. I sure as hell don't agree.
    and never will.

    Likewise. I will not play with anyone fielding any legendaries. Just throwing that out there.

    I mean are you shitting me? Legendaries? We have a veritable plethora of reasons not to use those fuckers.

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    Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    UPDATED ROUND 4 BRACKET

    3694 6498 9606 - SpeedRacer-2
    vs.
    1890 7641 5153 - Invisible Ink-2

    4596 5912 3966 - AshtonDragon-2
    vs.
    0860 0250 1654 - RedMageDarion-2

    5283 7880 2148 - BlueBlue-1
    vs.
    3437 0107 2915 - Terrendos-1

    3136 5916 9044 - RavynBlackheart-1
    vs.
    2277 9321 5433 - Kay-1

    Zerokku
    vs.
    the next player to come out of Round 3 with 2 points

    Munkus
    vs.
    the next player to come out of Round 3 with 1 point

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    JaysonFourJaysonFour Classy Monster Kitteh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Chen wrote: »
    Man I feel bad about this win. I thought for sure you had an electric attack to fry Gyarados with. I guess there's not a lot to say than to keep at it.

    I did, but I was sure you were going to switch out to Jolteon and grab it for Volt Absorb, or switch out for Swampert. I wanted to use something that might have done some damage either way instead of no damage if you switched. My fault, really- I'm the one who SHOULD have listened to my gut and used the electric move.

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I've been on all day today, prettymuch.

    I don't like legendaries...but I don't like 90% of the Pokemon people actually use.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    Okay, let's fight, then.

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