His first issue of Supergirl was last month and was reeeeaaly good.
Are you not reading Action and Superman?
Was that the one where she takes a secret identity. Because I didn't like it so much. Supergirl still seems way too concerned with what others think of her, and not concerned at all about her actual actions and their consequences.
Yes, not at all like a teenage girl.
And isn't the story arc supposed to address these very character flaws?
I guess that's true. And yes, this arc supposedly does something about it, but I don't think one arc can redeem a chracter that's been shit since it's inception, and has actually gotten worse in some places.
I picked up the first issue of Johns' run on Action and wasn't particularly impressed. I wasn't at all suprised by this as I don't really like Superman, so I can't really be bothered getting into this big crossover.
I might pick up last months issue of Supergirl, though, just to have a look.
Johns's first issue of Action Comics was part of the OYL storyline "Up, Up, and Away", which was great
And the two most recent story arcs (with the Legion and Braniac respectively) are fantastic
Oh erm I thought this Brainiac arc was the start of his run.
So I guess I mean I picked up the first issue of the Brainiac arc and wasn't particularly impressed
Out of curiosity, I picked up the new krypton special.
It does feel very fresh, like a clean slate. What continuity is he drawing from still? There are a lot of minor and not so minor things that I feel I need to be filled in on, so where do I start? Once the Braniac arc is issued as a hardcover, I'll be all over that. Beyond that, what do I need to read from the recent years to catch up?
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I just finished reading Red Son - what other story arcs have Lex Luthor acting like a champion for humanity?
"Why don't you just put the whole WORLD in a BOTTLE, Superman?"
There were lots of Silver Age storylines involving the planet Lexor, where LL was a super-champion (of course, it eventually went wrong, as outlined in the Wolfman/Kane/Perez issue of ACTION that revamped Luthor (gave him the green power suit) and Brainiac (made him a robot)).
Also, the original Crisis On Infinite Earths, or any pre-Crisis story involving the Crime Syndicate's Lex Luthor (he had a powersuit and a fu-manchu).
Did anyone check of Superman/Supergirl: Malestrom? It was a pretty neat interaction, and it has Superman finally taking some time for Supergirl (instead of putting her in an orphanage).
I'm mildly concerned that since Johns is writing both Action Comics as well as Green Lantern, that Pa Kent is going to end up as a Black Lantern. I do not like this idea.
You should probably find a way to get past that concern before the event starts - I almost guarantee that Pa Kent is going to be zombified. In fact, if Pa Kent does not get a black ring, I will eat my own cock.
So was that Supergirl(Maelstrom?) issue from last week tied in to this whole New Krypton thing? Cause I didn't buy it but if it is I'll pick it up today
DC Editorial is always on the ball when it comes to storyline coordination.
I've always wished that a comic universe would exist where there were strict rules about each character having precisely one location at any one time, etc. I thought Ultimate would be like that, and it was initially, but they've dropped that ball too.
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edited November 2008
I don't mean where it falls in continuity-wise (it obviously takes place way before Final Crisis and New Krypton)
It's just that the main Superman books are in a crossover, and all the Fourth World stuff is being changed in Final Crisis, so they should have either put this out before or waited to put it out.
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I don't see why it matters one way or another. The quality of the story is what matters. If Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom is a good story, nobody will worry too much about its context. If it isn't, being fetishistic about continuity won't help.
I don't see why it matters one way or another. The quality of the story is what matters. If Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom is a good story, nobody will worry too much about its context. If it isn't, being fetishistic about continuity won't help.
It's not being "fetishistic" about continuity to ask that characters only occupy one story at a time, regardless of the quality of the story.
If you're writing in a shared universe, you should write in the shared universe. If you cannot be bothered to write within the constraints of the medium you chose, you shouldn't be writing there and you certainly shouldn't be employed there.
I don't see why it matters one way or another. The quality of the story is what matters. If Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom is a good story, nobody will worry too much about its context. If it isn't, being fetishistic about continuity won't help.
It's not being "fetishistic" about continuity to ask that characters only occupy one story at a time, regardless of the quality of the story.
If you're writing in a shared universe, you should write in the shared universe. If you cannot be bothered to write within the constraints of the medium you chose, you shouldn't be writing there and you certainly shouldn't be employed there.
This is easy for some characters, who only have one label per month. But it becomes nearly impossible for a perfect spacial continuity to exist for brands with multiple monthly entries, such as Batman, Superman, X-Men, and Spider-Man.
In the above cases (and others), there is such popular demand for those characters, that there is a huge assortment of monthly books dedicated to them. Multiple writers, multiple stories, villains, injuries, etc.
There is a point at which you must simply surrender to the concept that each story exists in its own special pocket of time and are rather independent of other pockets of time, despite their chronological release order.
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edited November 2008
So what is up with that picture of super girl in the OP
(Pardon me for not reading the entire thread)
That is nice looking art, who is the villain she is punching?
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If you're writing in a shared universe, you should write in the shared universe. If you cannot be bothered to write within the constraints of the medium you chose, you shouldn't be writing there and you certainly shouldn't be employed there.
According to whom? Why? How is the shared universe a value-adding concept when it prevents a company from selling as many Batman comics as it otherwise might, or from using characters in stories that are creatively appropriate for them regardless of whether they're "spoken for" at the moment?
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its really really really bad
Oh erm I thought this Brainiac arc was the start of his run.
So I guess I mean I picked up the first issue of the Brainiac arc and wasn't particularly impressed
"Why don't you just put the whole WORLD in a BOTTLE, Superman?"
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It does feel very fresh, like a clean slate. What continuity is he drawing from still? There are a lot of minor and not so minor things that I feel I need to be filled in on, so where do I start? Once the Braniac arc is issued as a hardcover, I'll be all over that. Beyond that, what do I need to read from the recent years to catch up?
The continuity of previous issues in the storyline
But I mean, where does he start. Is it just from his run, onwards?
There were lots of Silver Age storylines involving the planet Lexor, where LL was a super-champion (of course, it eventually went wrong, as outlined in the Wolfman/Kane/Perez issue of ACTION that revamped Luthor (gave him the green power suit) and Brainiac (made him a robot)).
Also, the original Crisis On Infinite Earths, or any pre-Crisis story involving the Crime Syndicate's Lex Luthor (he had a powersuit and a fu-manchu).
In theory, you could argue that he's pulling from every appearance of Brainiac, ever.
But yeah, just pick up his run, and you'll be fine.
In closing - the LoSH arc was the best of Johns run so far, and Gary Frank's art is terrific. The stiffness from Squadron Supreme is gone.
I definitely will need to pick that up, then.
and I never understand the Legion
What?
and since Final Crisis is going on, I really don't know why they're putting this book out right now
I've always wished that a comic universe would exist where there were strict rules about each character having precisely one location at any one time, etc. I thought Ultimate would be like that, and it was initially, but they've dropped that ball too.
It's just that the main Superman books are in a crossover, and all the Fourth World stuff is being changed in Final Crisis, so they should have either put this out before or waited to put it out.
It's not being "fetishistic" about continuity to ask that characters only occupy one story at a time, regardless of the quality of the story.
If you're writing in a shared universe, you should write in the shared universe. If you cannot be bothered to write within the constraints of the medium you chose, you shouldn't be writing there and you certainly shouldn't be employed there.
This is easy for some characters, who only have one label per month. But it becomes nearly impossible for a perfect spacial continuity to exist for brands with multiple monthly entries, such as Batman, Superman, X-Men, and Spider-Man.
In the above cases (and others), there is such popular demand for those characters, that there is a huge assortment of monthly books dedicated to them. Multiple writers, multiple stories, villains, injuries, etc.
There is a point at which you must simply surrender to the concept that each story exists in its own special pocket of time and are rather independent of other pockets of time, despite their chronological release order.
(Pardon me for not reading the entire thread)
That is nice looking art, who is the villain she is punching?
That's the Silver Banshee
According to whom? Why? How is the shared universe a value-adding concept when it prevents a company from selling as many Batman comics as it otherwise might, or from using characters in stories that are creatively appropriate for them regardless of whether they're "spoken for" at the moment?