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Ultimatum: House Of M Meets World's End?

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    the only redeeming panel of the entire Ultimates 3 trainwreck is when Ultron is telling Wasp she is practically his mother and then Hank screams "I GUESS THAT MAKES ME THE MOTHERFUCKER" and rips off his head

    That really happened? Because that sounds ridiculously awesome.

    oh my god, that's actually hilarious

    I mean, it's in no way, shape or form what anyone in theses comics should say, but still!

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    SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    The panel of Ant-Man growing super huge in the flood was really cool looking.

    I'm pretty much in agreeance with most in that the preview was terrible but the issue itself wasn't too bad.

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    MunchMunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Look I need a scan of that panel ASAP

    If you haven't already, I suggest you read 4th Letter's Ultimate Edit series, an edited version of Ultimates 3, with all the dialogue replaced. It's a nice way to keep up with Ultimates, without suffering Jeph Loeb's writing.

    Here's an edited version of the sequence Bale was talking about. Use your imagination.

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    McClyMcCly Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Munch wrote: »
    Me Too! wrote: »
    Look I need a scan of that panel ASAP

    If you haven't already, I suggest you read 4th Letter's Ultimate Edit series, an edited version of Ultimates 3, with all the dialogue replaced. It's a nice way to keep up with Ultimates, without suffering Jeph Loeb's writing.

    Here's an edited version of the sequence Bale was talking about. Use your imagination.

    This is hilarious. That one panel with the Super Smash Brothers was great.

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    I tracked down the original version of that panel.
    Good. Lord.

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    SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Golden Yak wrote: »
    Gotta admit, I thought it would be a lot worse. Once you got past the preview stuff though, it was actually pretty compelling. A number of unanswered questions...
    How the hell is Doom back?

    ...but this might be worth picking up after all.
    Well the last issue of Ultimates 3 showed that he was behind the Ultron stuff, but I honestly dont remember when was the last time he appeared before that
    Before that he was in Ultimate Power for no reason at all, and prior to that he was last seen in UFF trapped in the zombie dimension with a Lovecraftian parasite of incredible power gestating in his chest, having previously failed to remove it.

    So who the fuck knows how he's still kicking around. Probably not Loeb.

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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
    Man, I don't want to read about this lady's broken vagina.
    NotACrook wrote: »
    I am sitting here trying to come up with a tiered system for rating child molesters.
    cock vore is fuckin hilarious
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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I thought the Doom in Ultimate Power was a Doombot

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    SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I think I stopped reading a couple of issues before the end so he may well have been!

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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
    Man, I don't want to read about this lady's broken vagina.
    NotACrook wrote: »
    I am sitting here trying to come up with a tiered system for rating child molesters.
    cock vore is fuckin hilarious
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    smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    My biggest complaint so far was Kitty telling Peter to "stop being cute" or something like that. It just didn't seem like something she would say at all to him given their recent history and the breakup.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    yeah that line felt out of place but given how terrible everyone else sounded in the pre-flood scenes...

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    smokmnkysmokmnky Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    yeah that line felt out of place but given how terrible everyone else sounded in the pre-flood scenes...

    Yeah but that just felt extra bad I guess. Also I don't like the way MJ/Kitty/Gwen faces looked, I hate it when they don't draw them like real teenagers

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    Dareth RamDareth Ram regular
    edited November 2008
    oh look reed about to prospose to su, further closing the gaps to be mainstay marvel and ultimates.


    he just doesn't get it

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    mugginnsmugginns Jawsome Fresh CoastRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I bought this yesterday on a whim and it seems pretty cool. I'll have to get into Ultimate Spiderman

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Dareth Ram wrote: »
    oh look reed about to prospose to su, further closing the gaps to be mainstay marvel and ultimates.


    he just doesn't get it

    Man you're one of those guys aren't you
    Who wants nothing the same
    I would not mind seeing the two of them hitched

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    SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    My favourite part was Sue and Johnny's dad asking Johnny when he's finally going to get off his ass and make something out of his life

    Because I mean being part of a superhero team that has saved the world a couple of times apparently doesn't count

    Dude's got high expectations of his kids, apparently!

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    PiptheFair wrote: »
    killing children would be hilarious
    Olivaw wrote: »
    HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE PENNY ARCADE FORUMS

    PLEASE ENJOY YOUR STAY

    AND THIS PENIS
    Man, I don't want to read about this lady's broken vagina.
    NotACrook wrote: »
    I am sitting here trying to come up with a tiered system for rating child molesters.
    cock vore is fuckin hilarious
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    Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I thought the Doom in Ultimate Power was a Doombot

    Yeah, that.
    But yes, when we last saw Doom, he was in an alternate universe, one of the Great Old Ones was about to hatch out of his chest, and he was facing down six cosmic-powered Galactus zombies, while the portal back to his home universe had just closed for a billion years.

    When I saw the end of Ultimates 3 I was curious, but I thought they would explain it in Ultimatum. Hopefully they will eventually, and not just ignore it. Because I really want to hear how he got out of that situation...

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    mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    It's Loeb. This won't be explained any more than he explained why Pyro was suddenly a rapist, Sabertooth had entirely different claws, Hawkeye is Bullseye, Jan isn't Asian, Wanda and Pietro are incestuous (were?), etc.

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    Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited November 2008
    To be fair, Wander and The Whizzer were always sorta incestuous.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    and Hawkeye changed his costume/demeanor because he's crazy and suicidal from what happaned to his family and has a giant death wish.

    I'm not saying it's a good explenation, but it was given.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    no my ultimate comic book would be Powers because Bendis is my favorite writer and Oeming is my favorite artist

    This is from a few pages back, but this is exactly my sentiment. Powers is pretty much the best comic book to come out ever.

    Do we have a thread about it?

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    psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    smokmnky wrote: »
    My biggest complaint so far was Kitty telling Peter to "stop being cute" or something like that. It just didn't seem like something she would say at all to him given their recent history and the breakup.

    It's generally pretty safe to assume that Loeb has never read any of the other Ultimate titles beyond maybe a wikipedia summary.

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    McClyMcCly Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    smokmnky wrote: »
    My biggest complaint so far was Kitty telling Peter to "stop being cute" or something like that. It just didn't seem like something she would say at all to him given their recent history and the breakup.

    It's generally pretty safe to assume that Loeb has never read any of the other Ultimate titles beyond maybe a wikipedia summary.

    Or Marvel doesn't give a shit enough to tell him otherwise.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2008
    bendis got into a screaming match with him over something to do with ultimatum, though

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd love to see comic writers argue over continuity.

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    Jester313Jester313 Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    I'd love to see comic writers argue over continuity.

    It'd be fun for about thirty seconds, then you'd want to bash your head in.

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    LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    This seems like a giant middle finger to everyone who actually bought and followed UXM and UFF.

    This better not fuck up USM. Bendis deserves to stay in control of that group of characters.

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    McClyMcCly Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    USM has been one of the most consistently great books I'm reading. Right behind Invincible. :P

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    This seems like a giant middle finger to everyone who actually bought and followed UXM and UFF.

    This better not fuck up USM. Bendis deserves to stay in control of that group of characters.
    Yeah, I can appreciate using the Ultimate Universe to do things you can't in 616 like killing mainstay characters such as Johnny Storm, but everyone who has (seemingly) died in Ultimatum was killed in such an offhanded manner that it really feels like Loeb dropping a bunch of characters to make his shitty apocalypse story seem that much more serious.

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    I won't be reading Ultimatum but am morbidly curious as to who's been killed. Spoil me?

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Again, we dont know if any of these are going to stick, but the first issue gives the impression that the following characters died in the opening attack.
    Wasp
    Beast
    Nightcrawler
    Dazzler
    The Human Torch
    Dr. Storm

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    Haha.
    Sucks to be Beast in the Ultimate Universe.
    Sorry, Bale.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Eh, I'm not really attached to the Ultimate version of the character.

    Like I said I thought this first issue was decent, I'm gonna pick up the next one too.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Again, we dont know if any of these are going to stick, but the first issue gives the impression that the following characters died in the opening attack.
    Wasp
    Beast
    Nightcrawler
    Dazzler
    The Human Torch
    Dr. Storm
    I liked Human Torch and Dazzler myself. I also don't get why Angel survived, but Nightcrawler didn't.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Eh
    The only really memorable Ultimate Johnny Storm stories were the 2 times he appeared in USM

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2008
    Renaming the Space Shuttle was a great Ultimate Johnny Storm moment.

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    Robos A Go GoRobos A Go Go Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Eh
    The only really memorable Ultimate Johnny Storm stories were the 2 times he appeared in USM

    http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/686952.html

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    Langly wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    no my ultimate comic book would be Powers because Bendis is my favorite writer and Oeming is my favorite artist

    This is from a few pages back, but this is exactly my sentiment. Powers is pretty much the best comic book to come out ever.

    Do we have a thread about it?

    Until it comes back in a bit there's no real need
    Unless we want to discuss the POWERS TV SHOW HOLY SHIT

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Yeah I'll probably make a thread for it when Volume 3 starts

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    Me Too!Me Too! __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2008
    I'm looking forward to my first CARE package of comics after tech school
    Gonna have all of everything to catch up on
    Sooo much Powers
    So much

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    LockedOnTargetLockedOnTarget Registered User regular
    edited November 2008
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Again, we dont know if any of these are going to stick, but the first issue gives the impression that the following characters died in the opening attack.
    Wasp
    Beast
    Nightcrawler
    Dazzler
    The Human Torch
    Dr. Storm
    I was given the impression Sue died, too.

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