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edited November 2008
It's funny, I bought the bear for 750 gold by mistake (I really shouldn't be spending 750 gold when I barely break 1k and my DK needs his flying buisness) yet I'm hovering between 1.2k and 1.4k right now at 75. They really, really upped the ante with gold and quest rewards.
Do note that I am choosing whatever reward I think will sell the most, however, as none of the greens have been upgrades. And I just did the Ampitheater of Anguish questline which was about 20g a pop for however many quests that was.
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It was the one in Sholazar where you fly in that plane near the avalanche and have to shoot down the gargoyles with missles (then you get shot, plane catches fire and you have to fly back to the oasis to land).
I wasn't in the beta.
Ditto, I just read about it.
You can still do the quest now, you just get a gold reward for it. Meh.
So, my account was hacked at some point in the last two years, but I spent most of last night installing my burning crusade and wrath discs and downloading updates and whatnot. I never actually got in the game.
Servers were down for maintenance this morning, so I couldn't see my characters, but I suddenly have 6 characters on Mal'ganis, 3 on Kargath, and one each on at least a dozen other servers. Uhhh.
When I get home from work this evening, the best I can hope for is someone not having deleted my rogue or lock, I guess. I have a feeling my rogue is going to be in the middle of the ocean, Jason Bourne amnesia style, stripped buck naked as the day he was born, all items including hearthstone sold.
If my old characters were deleted, I'm going to be really bummed about having spent $75 in expansions just to find that out, since I don't want to level a new character from 1-60+.
Man, I don't even know where to start with the UI and things like that, assuming I have characters still.
Well, if you have to level a new character, you can join me since I'm doing just that.
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So, my account was hacked at some point in the last two years, but I spent most of last night installing my burning crusade and wrath discs and downloading updates and whatnot. I never actually got in the game.
Servers were down for maintenance this morning, so I couldn't see my characters, but I suddenly have 6 characters on Mal'ganis, 3 on Kargath, and one each on at least a dozen other servers. Uhhh.
When I get home from work this evening, the best I can hope for is someone not having deleted my rogue or lock, I guess. I have a feeling my rogue is going to be in the middle of the ocean, Jason Bourne amnesia style, stripped buck naked as the day he was born, all items including hearthstone sold.
If my old characters were deleted, I'm going to be really bummed about having spent $75 in expansions just to find that out, since I don't want to level a new character from 1-60+.
Man, I don't even know where to start with the UI and things like that, assuming I have characters still.
I'd need more information about how your account got 'hacked,' but it's entirely possible that blizzard could do a restore of your characters. Probably would be bareass naked, maybe a few soulbound greens that would sell for a copper, but it's still a character that probably took 12 days of playtime to get to where they are at.
Who knows! The hackers could have leveled up your gents in order to farm areas or whatnot. I have no idea. I just find it ridiculous that you somehow know that your account was hacked at one point, unless you 'found out' by looking at the server list and made a deduction.
As to the rogue with the glad s1 MH and the glaive OH...
Well, raid leaders are humans too, ya know. Humans who would give their right nut and left foot for the vague indication that they might get a blowjob from someone who is probably female.
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Go read how Fel Armour works now, basically life tapping with the 4 piece set bonus gives you an extra 100 spell damage for 10 seconds.
On the other hand, I am pretty much forced to grind Ebon Blade to Revered on my Rogue because they have the new melee DPS head enchant, so I'll probably just keep the tabard on me after that and work towards the epic leather melee DPS chestpiece they have at Exalted.
Just go do the Quests in Ice Crown, they lay on the Ebon Blade rep with a trowel, my warlock is about halfway through Honoured with them just from doing their standard quest chains, never worn their tabard through a dungeon. They've got an arseload of 250+ rep dalies out that way as well. If only the bloody Kirin Tor would be so courteous (and design a less ghastly tabard)
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Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
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My beef with the Cold Weather Flying thing isn't the 1k, that's easy as hell to make. It's the fact that they could have made it a quest (and did, actually, then removed it), but chose to make it a bought skill instead. The quest that you used to get it from is actually a lot of fun and it's easy. That would have been more satisfying to me than just "hey, show me how to fly in Northrend. 'kay thanks".
They only did that for beta, they never intended on actually making it a quest.
Well, if you have to level a new character, you can join me since I'm doing just that.
What server? Horde/alliance? I may need to take you up on this.
I was hoping my character would be on WoW armory so I could check there, but no luck.
As a side note, while I'm not surprised to see other characters named "Jinsuke" on other servers, I am really surprised to see other characters named "Hatbox." Weird.
Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
No, I mean he bought the offhand glaive from a guild who didn't want it and was selling it.
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edited November 2008
Here's a question: What non-heroic dungeons can I gather rep in by wearing the frilly tabard designs? I want me some argent crusade rep, but I don't want to be seen in public with a white tabard after labor day.
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I saw him doing the mammoth quest and almost choked on my orange juice
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Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
No, I mean he bought the offhand glaive from a guild who didn't want it and was selling it.
He bought runs through BT with the promise of receiving the glaive?
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Here's a question: What non-heroic dungeons can I gather rep in by wearing the frilly tabard designs? I want me some argent crusade rep, but I don't want to be seen in public with a white tabard after labor day.
The lvl 80 dungeons... Pinnacle, Halls of Lightning, Oculus and Strath.
Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
No, I mean he bought the offhand glaive from a guild who didn't want it and was selling it.
He bought runs through BT with the promise of receiving the glaive?
Recieving A glaive, Yes, why not? I know plenty of guilds who were/would do that 2-3 months before the expansion was out.
My beef with the Cold Weather Flying thing isn't the 1k, that's easy as hell to make. It's the fact that they could have made it a quest (and did, actually, then removed it), but chose to make it a bought skill instead. The quest that you used to get it from is actually a lot of fun and it's easy. That would have been more satisfying to me than just "hey, show me how to fly in Northrend. 'kay thanks".
They only did that for beta, they never intended on actually making it a quest.
Sure they wanted it to be a quest, but a lot of people missed it when it was a quest. (source)
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edited November 2008
*shrug*
I haven't really heard of guilds selling away one specific drop off a boss before, especially the drama inducing drop that is the warglaives. I see forar reading this, biting into a donut, and raising his fist in ire.
"Curse you Nicademus!" he shouts, glazed crumbs tumbling from the corners of his mouth across his chin.
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When that shit is soon not to matter, most people are more than willing to take 8k gold from some dumbass who wants a Legendary, even better that they can probably string him along for 1k a run where it doesn't drop.
The casters in my guild refuse to waste time/money grinding rep or making craft-able gear which they will replace in ~3 weeks as we clear Naxx over and over for better gear. I pointed out that the epic dagger (402 spell damage?) from patchwork puts all of the BT.Sunwell items to shame (259 archimonde, 292 kiljaden)... so why cant they spend itemization points intelligently like that across the board?
My favourite one of those is Blizzards seemingly allergic reaction to the Frozen Shadoweave set being great. The Ebonweave Pieces are basically expensive pieces of shit. Hell the robe is an unsocketed PoS that 's inferior to a blue drop out of H VH, the only reason i'm wasting so much money leveling up my tailoring atm is that i really want a flying carpet. Beyond that every single thing i've made has even been a 20 slot bag or an immediate disenchant. I really can't understand the logic behind a crafting system where everything you're making is worse than the quest rewards of a corresponding level.
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Yeah, it's probably a server-specific thing, but while I've heard of people selling "guaranteed" drops like ZA Bears and paying for runs through BT ("whatever you finds, you keeps"), it would have to be a pretty well-progressed guild who would sell a warglaive, offhand or no. They're certainly not Atiesh rare, but I still only saw three or four rogues (Horde) on my server total who had them.
Itemization this time around just seems odd. I went into Northrend with my DK still in his blue armor set so ended up upgrading everything in the first zone but I'm having a harder time picking out clear upgrades as I go along. They keep throwing gear at me that seems to be a sidegrade....it's like they're asking me 'are you sure you don't want items with this stat?' over and over again. It makes me think I'm missing something. Some items don't make much sense...like the ones with tons of stam but no defense. Or it's got a lot of green stats but no white stats at all.
It's like they're not clear on just how best to itemize stuff with the new direction they're taking for gear homogenization so they're providing every single gear choice possible. You can stack the stat of your choice except the pieces aren't always balanced so it might have one stat you want and be missing one or two others entirely. None of the pieces I've seen have any sockets so you can't balance out any stat deficiencies either.
I've been focusing on str, attack power, and crit where I can get it and not worrying about expertise or hit really(end up with it wether I want it or not). I'm still undecided on how useful haste/armor pen are.
I'd need more information about how your account got 'hacked,' but it's entirely possible that blizzard could do a restore of your characters. Probably would be bareass naked, maybe a few soulbound greens that would sell for a copper, but it's still a character that probably took 12 days of playtime to get to where they are at.
Who knows! The hackers could have leveled up your gents in order to farm areas or whatnot. I have no idea. I just find it ridiculous that you somehow know that your account was hacked at one point, unless you 'found out' by looking at the server list and made a deduction.
Well, like I said, I couldn't actually get into the account to see anything yet, but when it asked me to choose a server it listed the number of characters on servers I've never been on. Malganis (6), Kargath (3), etc. So I'm pulling the assumption that it was hax0red out of my posterior. Maybe that's the wrong term, but someone who isn't me has to have used this character at some point between Jan 06 and now, right? Blizzard gave me a vaguely worded form letter that they had decided someone had used the account in some unauthorized way, but there was no real info.
And I may suddenly have 20 purped out 80s with random names after all, who knows. I guess I'm just not optimistic. I am very curious about what all has been done, but for now I'm sitting on hold on the phone at work, so my brain is spinning up dire scenarios until I can check.
Oh well, if the character is intact and the gear is gone, I'll just punch mobs until I can buy a dagger and then walk to a bigger mob and stab it till I can buy a second dagger and I'll go from there.
Here's some DPS plate, loaded with +agi and +haste, just what you needed!
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edited November 2008
Your WF totem gives a huge amount of haste. A huge amount of haste. At the cost of zero stats. The issue is that haste is a pretty shitty stat if you have to give up loads of crit, hit, and attack power to get it. And even then, it's a really shitty stat when you're soloing. Oh boy, a boost to my white damage only? Golly, that's just what I want when I kill something in 4 seconds!
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Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
There is a rogue on my server who is a mix of ZA/Kara/Badge gear and has a warglaive. There were plenty of BT pugs going about post 3.0 and the one he was in just happened to have a warglaive drop.
Here's some DPS plate, loaded with +agi and +haste, just what you needed!
isn't haste pretty good for melee dps? particularly classes who like to use big slow weapons?
I mean my warriors and rogues seems to love my windfury totem and thats just a flat haste buff
The slower your weapon(s) and the less +haste you're getting from other sources, the bigger a benefit each point of +haste gives you.
The problem is that now Windfury Totem gives +16% haste or something, and most classes that would want +haste are able to give themselves some amount via self-buffing, so the +haste you get from items very quickly becomes laughably bad.
My Slice and Dice is the equivalent of something like +600 haste rating at 80, and it makes all of the +haste I find on gear about 600 points worse right off the bat. I mean, fuck, with all the +haste in Northrend I should probably just dual-wield 2.7 speed swords. The fucking speed post-haste contribution is going to be the same as with 1.5s. o_O
Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
There is a rogue on my server who is a mix of ZA/Kara/Badge gear and has a warglaive. There were plenty of BT pugs going about post 3.0 and the one he was in just happened to have a warglaive drop.
The guild in question IS an accomplished BT guild... (illidan down) on our server... just the undergeared rogue with a glaive makes me cry a little inside...
Because you know damn well he will still be wielding it at 80...
Or you could go with the simple solution which is, you know, he bought it.
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
There is a rogue on my server who is a mix of ZA/Kara/Badge gear and has a warglaive. There were plenty of BT pugs going about post 3.0 and the one he was in just happened to have a warglaive drop.
Yeah, I've seen a lot of "out of place" Warglaives too. Remember that it's just for Warriors and Rogues, and that the offhand one isn't particularly appealing to a Warrior -- especially once they knew about what 3.0 was bringing -- and it's not hard to imagine people essentially being gifted legendaries.
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I guess the surprising thing about it (selling warglaives) is that it would mean that all of that guild's rogues and warriors had their glaives already. Either that, or the guild's priorities are severely fucked in the ass.
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Do note that I am choosing whatever reward I think will sell the most, however, as none of the greens have been upgrades. And I just did the Ampitheater of Anguish questline which was about 20g a pop for however many quests that was.
You can still do the quest now, you just get a gold reward for it. Meh.
Well, if you have to level a new character, you can join me since I'm doing just that.
I'd need more information about how your account got 'hacked,' but it's entirely possible that blizzard could do a restore of your characters. Probably would be bareass naked, maybe a few soulbound greens that would sell for a copper, but it's still a character that probably took 12 days of playtime to get to where they are at.
Who knows! The hackers could have leveled up your gents in order to farm areas or whatnot. I have no idea. I just find it ridiculous that you somehow know that your account was hacked at one point, unless you 'found out' by looking at the server list and made a deduction.
As to the rogue with the glad s1 MH and the glaive OH...
Well, raid leaders are humans too, ya know. Humans who would give their right nut and left foot for the vague indication that they might get a blowjob from someone who is probably female.
Go read how Fel Armour works now, basically life tapping with the 4 piece set bonus gives you an extra 100 spell damage for 10 seconds.
Just go do the Quests in Ice Crown, they lay on the Ebon Blade rep with a trowel, my warlock is about halfway through Honoured with them just from doing their standard quest chains, never worn their tabard through a dungeon. They've got an arseload of 250+ rep dalies out that way as well. If only the bloody Kirin Tor would be so courteous (and design a less ghastly tabard)
I wanted to make a fancy sentence. Even then, a rogue with that OH should have a better MH. Unless the person who bought the account decided to replace whatever MH they had with the s1 pretty purple puncturer. I'm more willing to blame raid shenanigans, because the majority of raids are run, at least in part, by idiots.
They only did that for beta, they never intended on actually making it a quest.
What server? Horde/alliance? I may need to take you up on this.
I was hoping my character would be on WoW armory so I could check there, but no luck.
As a side note, while I'm not surprised to see other characters named "Jinsuke" on other servers, I am really surprised to see other characters named "Hatbox." Weird.
No, I mean he bought the offhand glaive from a guild who didn't want it and was selling it.
Nicademus, Rogue, Proudmoore
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Proudmoore&n=Nicademus
Mainhand: 88 dps, Offhand 110 dps
I saw him doing the mammoth quest and almost choked on my orange juice
He bought runs through BT with the promise of receiving the glaive?
The lvl 80 dungeons... Pinnacle, Halls of Lightning, Oculus and Strath.
Recieving A glaive, Yes, why not? I know plenty of guilds who were/would do that 2-3 months before the expansion was out.
Sure they wanted it to be a quest, but a lot of people missed it when it was a quest. (source)
I haven't really heard of guilds selling away one specific drop off a boss before, especially the drama inducing drop that is the warglaives. I see forar reading this, biting into a donut, and raising his fist in ire.
"Curse you Nicademus!" he shouts, glazed crumbs tumbling from the corners of his mouth across his chin.
My favourite one of those is Blizzards seemingly allergic reaction to the Frozen Shadoweave set being great. The Ebonweave Pieces are basically expensive pieces of shit. Hell the robe is an unsocketed PoS that 's inferior to a blue drop out of H VH, the only reason i'm wasting so much money leveling up my tailoring atm is that i really want a flying carpet. Beyond that every single thing i've made has even been a 20 slot bag or an immediate disenchant. I really can't understand the logic behind a crafting system where everything you're making is worse than the quest rewards of a corresponding level.
It's like they're not clear on just how best to itemize stuff with the new direction they're taking for gear homogenization so they're providing every single gear choice possible. You can stack the stat of your choice except the pieces aren't always balanced so it might have one stat you want and be missing one or two others entirely. None of the pieces I've seen have any sockets so you can't balance out any stat deficiencies either.
I've been focusing on str, attack power, and crit where I can get it and not worrying about expertise or hit really(end up with it wether I want it or not). I'm still undecided on how useful haste/armor pen are.
Well, like I said, I couldn't actually get into the account to see anything yet, but when it asked me to choose a server it listed the number of characters on servers I've never been on. Malganis (6), Kargath (3), etc. So I'm pulling the assumption that it was hax0red out of my posterior. Maybe that's the wrong term, but someone who isn't me has to have used this character at some point between Jan 06 and now, right? Blizzard gave me a vaguely worded form letter that they had decided someone had used the account in some unauthorized way, but there was no real info.
And I may suddenly have 20 purped out 80s with random names after all, who knows. I guess I'm just not optimistic. I am very curious about what all has been done, but for now I'm sitting on hold on the phone at work, so my brain is spinning up dire scenarios until I can check.
Oh well, if the character is intact and the gear is gone, I'll just punch mobs until I can buy a dagger and then walk to a bigger mob and stab it till I can buy a second dagger and I'll go from there.
Here's some DPS plate, loaded with +agi and +haste, just what you needed!
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Don't forget plate with spell power and stam with no intellect!
isn't haste pretty good for melee dps? particularly classes who like to use big slow weapons?
I mean my warriors and rogues seems to love my windfury totem and thats just a flat haste buff
Yes.
There is a rogue on my server who is a mix of ZA/Kara/Badge gear and has a warglaive. There were plenty of BT pugs going about post 3.0 and the one he was in just happened to have a warglaive drop.
The problem is that now Windfury Totem gives +16% haste or something, and most classes that would want +haste are able to give themselves some amount via self-buffing, so the +haste you get from items very quickly becomes laughably bad.
My Slice and Dice is the equivalent of something like +600 haste rating at 80, and it makes all of the +haste I find on gear about 600 points worse right off the bat. I mean, fuck, with all the +haste in Northrend I should probably just dual-wield 2.7 speed swords. The fucking speed post-haste contribution is going to be the same as with 1.5s. o_O
The guild in question IS an accomplished BT guild... (illidan down) on our server... just the undergeared rogue with a glaive makes me cry a little inside...
Because you know damn well he will still be wielding it at 80...