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today's comic 1/29: link broken

Boot2TheHeadBoot2TheHead Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Tube's Circus Of Bug Reports and User Issues
The link to the pic is broken.

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    That's not the fault of our lovely and gracious admins, that's Tycho drinking on the job again.

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    There was a steam sig here. It's gone now.
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    Boot2TheHeadBoot2TheHead Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    As a matter of fact I would like a drink. Thanks for asking.

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    jltymanjltyman Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    Same here - cannot see the pic, only a place-holder.

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    jwalkjwalk Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    MEE 2 OLLOL

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    headn00bheadn00b Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    What is this?

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    Your sig was too tall.

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    KreutzKreutz Blackwater Park, IARegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Gabe and Tycho don't read this part of the forum.

    They should, they really fucking should, but they don't.

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    JavenJaven Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    If this isn't your first time checking the comic and it isn't up, clear your cache, then refresh.

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    JagJag Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Still nothing.

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    CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Kreutz wrote:
    Gabe and Tycho don't read this part of the forum.

    They should, they really fucking should, but they don't.

    Yeah, but Alpha is responsible for the main site too isn't he? Assuming he hasn't ninja vanished for another six months or whatever.

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    TalonrazorTalonrazor Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Man I love how Penny Arcade revolves around one thing, a webcomic, and has spawned charities, gaming ads and an entire fucking expo. Yet the one thing it all hinges on is constantly messed up. You think Jerry and Mike could spring for a competent IT guy or something.

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    CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Talonrazor wrote:
    Man I love how Penny Arcade revolves around one thing, a webcomic, and has spawned charities, gaming ads and an entire fucking expo. Yet the one thing it all hinges on is constantly messed up. You think Jerry and Mike could spring for a competent IT guy or something.

    Remember when their hosting was shit for months on end? This is nothing in comparison.

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Talonrazor wrote:
    Man I love how Penny Arcade revolves around one thing, a webcomic, and has spawned charities, gaming ads and an entire fucking expo. Yet the one thing it all hinges on is constantly messed up. You think Jerry and Mike could spring for a competent IT guy or something.

    Considering the fact that they have an entire freakin army of nerds at their service, then your comment rings even more true.

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    ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Sleep wrote:
    Talonrazor wrote:
    Man I love how Penny Arcade revolves around one thing, a webcomic, and has spawned charities, gaming ads and an entire fucking expo. Yet the one thing it all hinges on is constantly messed up. You think Jerry and Mike could spring for a competent IT guy or something.
    Considering the fact that they have an entire freakin army of nerds at their service, then your comment rings even more true.
    Giving random anonymous internet people you don't know admin-level access to your server doesn't seem like the best idea ever, to me.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    or, you know, this could have just been a placeholder because the comic was late.

    geez guys, you get this comic for free. chill out and let the men-who-would-be-boys do their work.

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    CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    fightinfilipino wrote:
    or, you know, this could have just been a placeholder because the comic was late.

    geez guys, you get this comic for free. chill out and let the men-who-would-be-boys do their work.

    People are making bug reports because they're trying to help the site. Because, you know, we like PA and want it to do well.

    The links to the new comic in the news post has been broken many, many, times in recent months. Thus the bug reports.

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    fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Corvus wrote:
    fightinfilipino wrote:
    or, you know, this could have just been a placeholder because the comic was late.

    geez guys, you get this comic for free. chill out and let the men-who-would-be-boys do their work.

    People are making bug reports because they're trying to help the site. Because, you know, we like PA and want it to do well.

    The links to the new comic in the news post has been broken many, many, times in recent months. Thus the bug reports.

    not the people bitching about how there isn't an army of "IT GUYZ" helping out.

    yes, they've been broken before. this time it just looked like a placeholder. usually when the links are broken you get the 404 image with Tycho and Div.

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    lilyirislilyiris Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    So I still can't see this comic..... is it funny? Am I doing something wrong? I clearecd my cache just in case but, that didn't fix it.

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    EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    I always just view the comic from the thread in SE++ anyway, since it's a gamble lately viewing it from the main page.

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    ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Okay, if it is broken for you, try using another browser on your computer. If that doesn't work let me know what browsers you tried and I'll fix it.
    Until then...
    20070129.jpg
    Does that image show up?

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    FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    No, and that's with Firefox 2.0.0.1.

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    TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited January 2007
    Not working for me in firefox, shows up in IE

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    RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2007
    Doesn't work for me in FF : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061204 Firefox/2.0.0.1

    When I switched to IETab it also came up redX, but then refreshing made the image show up. IETab reports: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727).

    I'm also behind an ISA server, if that makes a difference, and based on my testing here: http://www.fiddlertool.com/useragent.aspx it looks like a Pragma: no-cache header gets added after I refresh after switching to IETab.

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    ScottEwenScottEwen Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I can't see the image in Firefox or Internet Explorer.

    There is also no file with the date of the comic (20070129.jpg).

    I don't think I can remember the last time they missed a day. Is that what happened this time I wonder?

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    schalictoschalicto Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    It doesn't work for me in either IE 6 or Firefox 2. I noticed the RSS feed droped two links to the comic yesterday, so I'm guessing there is something goofy going on.

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    RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2007
    Opening the URL: http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070129.jpg in Firefox, and then refreshing that page over and over, I alternate between getting the actual comic, and getting the text "http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070129.jpg"

    Here's my response headers when I get the text:
    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 0
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:32:26 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:32:26 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "6355592305110580726"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:23:53 GMT

    200 OK

    And here's when I get the image:
    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 89190
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:35:09 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:35:09 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "6800122786231551836"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:40:12 GMT

    200 OK

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    RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2007
    Actually, with some persistent effort, I was able to log the response headers from all 5 webservers. I think perhaps you shouldn't be sending an Etag at all and depend just on Last-Modified if you cannot guarantee the same resource will get the same Etag on different refreshes (reference).
    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 89190
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:37:07 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:37:07 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "7754839159966997880"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:40:12 GMT

    200 OK

    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 89190
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:37:41 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:37:41 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "6800122786231551836"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:40:12 GMT

    200 OK

    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 89190
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:38:19 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:38:19 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "7754839159966997880"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 03:40:12 GMT

    200 OK

    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 0
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:38:43 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:38:43 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "5788139094951427927"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:23:52 GMT

    200 OK

    Via: 1.1 SVGMSISA
    Content-Length: 0
    Expires: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 16:42:24 GMT
    Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:42:24 GMT
    Content-Type: image/jpeg
    Etag: "6355592305106412726"
    Server: lighttpd/1.4.11
    Cache-Control: max-age=86400
    Accept-Ranges: bytes
    Last-Modified: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:32:39 GMT

    200 OK

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    ÄlphämönkëyÄlphämönkëy Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Okay this should be fixed. As it turns out the technician who pushed out the comic forgot to run checksums to make sure the servers all received the same file. I ran the checksums, saw that only 2/5 servers agreed on the latest comic, and forced a resync.

    As far as lighttpd sending bad etags, that is a bug of lighttpd, and sadly the configuration variable to turn that off turns off some essential features of our site. I'm looking at an incremental upgrade of the webserver software within the next few weeks. I will be splitting our webservers 2/3, taking two offline and upgrading them, once they are confirmed to work pushing those two online and taking the other three offline, upgrade the remaining three and that's all she wrote.

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    RamiusRamius Joined: July 19, 2000 Administrator, ClubPA admin
    edited January 2007
    Confirmed. WFM.

    No rush on the server upgrade, I just wanted to be sure you were aware of the Etags issue. I certainly don't want major webserver surgery to stand in the way of some other things that I know you need to worry about ;).

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    MeizMeiz Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Man, I remember when we had IRQs to deal with. Man those were annoying.

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    FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Meiz wrote:
    Man, I remember when we had IRQs to deal with. Man those were annoying.

    I was just talking about IRQs with a buddy at work last week. Now when you open up your system properties you see everyone playing nice and sharing and you've just got to say "Man, why couldn't you do this ten years ago?"

    Also, I can see the comic now.

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    CorvusCorvus . VancouverRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    alphamonkey wrote:
    Okay, if it is broken for you, try using another browser on your computer. If that doesn't work let me know what browsers you tried and I'll fix it.
    Until then...
    20070129.jpg
    Does that image show up?

    Doesn't work for me in Firefox or IE.

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    evilangelicevilangelic Registered User new member
    edited January 2007
    Just...
    20070129qp2.gif

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    FunkyWaltDoggFunkyWaltDogg Columbia, SCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Corvus wrote:
    alphamonkey wrote:
    Okay, if it is broken for you, try using another browser on your computer. If that doesn't work let me know what browsers you tried and I'll fix it.
    Until then...
    [img]http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070129.jpg[/ img] Does that image show up?[/img]

    Doesn't work for me in Firefox or IE.

    Did you refresh with Ctrl-F5 to clear the cache?

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