And now for another episode of, "The Backpedaling"
Dual Talent specialization
We don't have an ETA. We would love to get it in for 3.1 but if I said it will be in 3.1 and it isn't, then players get mad. It's easier if we just say "soon."
Eeeeexcept they said at blizzcon that it would be in "the first major content patch", which just happens to be (by the devs' own account) 3.1, the Ulduar patch.
So maybe it'll be then, maybe it won't. They're probably covering their asses in a "just in case it doesn't make it in" scenario, but it's interesting that it went from a relatively sure thing to a "maybe" thing since Blizzcon.
oh WHAT THE FUCK! You DID say it was coming in 3.1 you fucking motherfuckers.
I beg to differ. The quest in Howling Fjord where you get to jump off a stupidly high cliff with a 3min slowfall buff while mounted is the best thing ever.
I didn't notice the slowfall thing, so I fell off in a completely wrong direction.
Then I noticed that I was slowly sailing straight at that alliance base.
I landed in front of a very surprised gnome warlock.
I knew about this, and was going to be very careful about my direction, but when I first went to get to a lower ledge I didn't fall fast enough to land there, and wouldn't you know it...
I do agree that a lot of instances are very easy, a lot of people in my guild hit 80 and cleared several the same day. The only ones I thought were even remotely challenging was Halls of Lightning, but once we gear up it'll be trivial as well.
Old Kingdom was fun, but our mage was super pissed at the Faceless boss because he couldn't handle insanity with his spec, and he knew a respec would make it super easy, he eventually did, and proceeded to rape it.
Some of the Heroics are pretty challenging, although the bosses usually just have a gimmick or two to figure out. I find them a lot more rewarding than the vanilla versions which we just zerged through. Now if the fucking badge vendors weren't scattered throughout the land I would be pleased indeed.
And now for another episode of, "The Backpedaling"
Dual Talent specialization
We don't have an ETA. We would love to get it in for 3.1 but if I said it will be in 3.1 and it isn't, then players get mad. It's easier if we just say "soon."
Eeeeexcept they said at blizzcon that it would be in "the first major content patch", which just happens to be (by the devs' own account) 3.1, the Ulduar patch.
So maybe it'll be then, maybe it won't. They're probably covering their asses in a "just in case it doesn't make it in" scenario, but it's interesting that it went from a relatively sure thing to a "maybe" thing since Blizzcon.
oh WHAT THE FUCK! You DID say it was coming in 3.1 you fucking motherfuckers.
Solution - remove cost to respecc until dual spec is implemented.
And now for another episode of, "The Backpedaling"
Dual Talent specialization
We don't have an ETA. We would love to get it in for 3.1 but if I said it will be in 3.1 and it isn't, then players get mad. It's easier if we just say "soon."
Eeeeexcept they said at blizzcon that it would be in "the first major content patch", which just happens to be (by the devs' own account) 3.1, the Ulduar patch.
So maybe it'll be then, maybe it won't. They're probably covering their asses in a "just in case it doesn't make it in" scenario, but it's interesting that it went from a relatively sure thing to a "maybe" thing since Blizzcon.
oh WHAT THE FUCK! You DID say it was coming in 3.1 you fucking motherfuckers.
I'd rather they do it right than they rush it fuck it up and spend months making it not a giant bag of crap but I play feral druid so I could just be riding the high of the changes we're getting. Now if I only had more than 3 defensive stats worth stacking.
It's called "They know their player base". Never commit to anything, or the WoW players will throw it back in your face over and over and over and over and over again.
And now for another episode of, "The Backpedaling"
Dual Talent specialization
We don't have an ETA. We would love to get it in for 3.1 but if I said it will be in 3.1 and it isn't, then players get mad. It's easier if we just say "soon."
Eeeeexcept they said at blizzcon that it would be in "the first major content patch", which just happens to be (by the devs' own account) 3.1, the Ulduar patch.
So maybe it'll be then, maybe it won't. They're probably covering their asses in a "just in case it doesn't make it in" scenario, but it's interesting that it went from a relatively sure thing to a "maybe" thing since Blizzcon.
oh WHAT THE FUCK! You DID say it was coming in 3.1 you fucking motherfuckers.
I beg to differ. The quest in Howling Fjord where you get to jump off a stupidly high cliff with a 3min slowfall buff while mounted is the best thing ever.
I didn't notice the slowfall thing, so I fell off in a completely wrong direction.
Then I noticed that I was slowly sailing straight at that alliance base.
I landed in front of a very surprised gnome warlock.
It's called "They know their player base". Never commit to anything, or the WoW players will throw it back in your face over and over and over and over and over again.
And now for another episode of, "The Backpedaling"
Dual Talent specialization
We don't have an ETA. We would love to get it in for 3.1 but if I said it will be in 3.1 and it isn't, then players get mad. It's easier if we just say "soon."
Eeeeexcept they said at blizzcon that it would be in "the first major content patch", which just happens to be (by the devs' own account) 3.1, the Ulduar patch.
So maybe it'll be then, maybe it won't. They're probably covering their asses in a "just in case it doesn't make it in" scenario, but it's interesting that it went from a relatively sure thing to a "maybe" thing since Blizzcon.
oh WHAT THE FUCK! You DID say it was coming in 3.1 you fucking motherfuckers.
*cough*
That would be well and good if they hadn't already committed to it, which they most certainly did. You'll rarely find me calling them out for anything. Most people bitch about Blizzard over misunderstandings and they throw things back in their face "over and over" again like retarded savages eg: TO THE GROUND. This is not the same.
What's with the gnomer hate? I haven't been there in years, cause no Horde do it after TBC came out, but I never had a big problem with it. It's kinda fun.
Man, am I the only engineering completionist left? It was also decent for repeatedly picking the lock to the back door.
What's with the gnomer hate? I haven't been there in years, cause no Horde do it after TBC came out, but I never had a big problem with it. It's kinda fun.
Man, am I the only engineering completionist left? It was also decent for repeatedly picking the lock to the back door.
I liked it, but I can see why others didn't. I suspect if they had toned down the mob density it would get much less hate.
Terribly awesome? I loved hoping in a tank and shooting frostbolts at people.
It really sucks shit if you have absolutely no ranged attack, like a warrior. I can't attack a tank at all if it's moving, even if I'm right in the center of it. Riding shotgun on tanks is a waste, can't attack the turrets, can't even attack the doors. Aside from running with seaforium or engineering bombs and actually driving the tanks/turrets, I'm all but useless in the fight.
Still though, I love the place. A hell of a lot more fun than AV ever was, and damn faster too. This is the game I'll play when I need to farm up honor.
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I ran it a lot of times, so I know it very well (although I haven't been in a long while). I'm also a master at Sunken Temple, Blackrock depths and upper and lower spire. Those are some of my favorite instances too.
I know the subject was just covered, but I admit I do miss those longer, more dangerous instances. It's starting to feel like we're a step or two away from getting door prize loot when we enter an instance.
What's with the gnomer hate? I haven't been there in years, cause no Horde do it after TBC came out, but I never had a big problem with it. It's kinda fun.
Man, am I the only engineering completionist left? It was also decent for repeatedly picking the lock to the back door.
I liked it, but I can see why others didn't. I suspect if they had toned down the mob density it would get much less hate.
look I miss BRD too, but if thats what we have to sacrifice to ensure we never get another LBRS I'm okay with that.
What they need to do is make the winged instances more like Dire Maul and less like Scarlet Monastary
DM is as close to the perfect instance that Blizzard ever achieved. If you want to do a BRD style massive run, you can do it. At the same time you can break it into small chunks. It's a damn shame so little of the player base got to run it on a consistant basis.
I'm assuming the escape the worgen quest is alliance only since I completed that questline and never did it Horde side.
That's somewhat disapointing, although alliance dosen't get an equivalent to the Pit of Conquest so I guess it evens out.
You have to help an alliance guy get back to the camp. You're both on horseback and you're throwing flaming lanterns at werewolves chasing you. It is perhaps the most awesome escort quest of all time. If more escort quests were like this, they wouldn't fall into the "types of quest I fucking hate" category so much.
Also Strat is another instance, that like BRD is designed to be done in pieces over seperate runs. Of course it's really only 2 wings as opposed to the 3 or 4 that is BRD, but it's still the exact same concept, so I dont get why people dont bitch anywhere near as much about Strat as they do about BRD.
look I miss BRD too, but if thats what we have to sacrifice to ensure we never get another LBRS I'm okay with that.
What they need to do is make the winged instances more like Dire Maul and less like Scarlet Monastary
How the fuck are the winged instances in Dire Maul any different than Strat? It's the same exact concept.
I love the way Strat is designed too.
Scarlet Monastery is just 3 hallways with seperate instance portals, thats what I dont like.
Er, I meant SM.
Dire Maul is also three portals.
I still fail to see the difference between the two.
Dire Maul has 3 portals but it's still one very big instance, the library in the center connects to both the North and West wings and most importantly the interior layout of the instances is large and non-linear and can be done through multiple routes.
Scarlet Monastery is just a hallway with mobs and then a boss at the end.
look I miss BRD too, but if thats what we have to sacrifice to ensure we never get another LBRS I'm okay with that.
What they need to do is make the winged instances more like Dire Maul and less like Scarlet Monastary
How the fuck are the winged instances in Dire Maul any different than Strat? It's the same exact concept.
I love the way Strat is designed too.
Scarlet Monastery is just 3 hallways with seperate instance portals, thats what I dont like.
I actually agree with you
I like***ed* BRD a lot but what i got sick of in BC was the whole idea of *pack* pulls
I think Heroic Shattered Halls summed up everything i hated about new and old instance design
Pull 7 mobs, CC 2-3, tank 4... W T F?
That just screams stupidity
It got really fun doing those instances covered in top epic gear and just aoeing them all down, but back when you had to grab a tank and healer who died every 2 pulls it made it kind of stupid.
Also Strat is another instance, that like BRD is designed to be done in pieces over seperate runs. Of course it's really only 2 wings as opposed to the 3 or 4 that is BRD, but it's still the exact same concept, so I dont get why people dont bitch anywhere near as much about Strat as they do about BRD.
While you can access both through either portals, you can also access the one you want via their own portals.
It's completely different than BRD which has 1 entrance and a billion different wings.
Also you could clear live and ud strat in a reasonable amount of time, both being the same level mobs. BRD mobs fluctuate ~10 levels and takes you about 15 times longer to clear than all of strat. So lame.
Also, why the fuck are we still arguing about this? My god let's move on.
Do you mean the Escape The Worgen run, or is there an actual log ride?
If so, I'm going to go ride it all night once I get home.
wtf, I got the Grizzly Achievement and I didn't get a log ride. Where is this
At the northern lumber camp/daily hub, there is an NPC that puts you on an auto-pilot log to Venture Bay. It's basically an awesomer free flight point, and there is an NPC for both factions.
I love Dire Maul so much, such an under appreciated instance. Also one of my most memorable moments was getting my Quel'Serrar there, and then piggybacking Ony with a big raid guild to forge it.
DM was just located in BFE so no one ever wanted to go. Such a waste of such a great instance.
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oh WHAT THE FUCK! You DID say it was coming in 3.1 you fucking motherfuckers.
I knew about this, and was going to be very careful about my direction, but when I first went to get to a lower ledge I didn't fall fast enough to land there, and wouldn't you know it...
Some of the Heroics are pretty challenging, although the bosses usually just have a gimmick or two to figure out. I find them a lot more rewarding than the vanilla versions which we just zerged through. Now if the fucking badge vendors weren't scattered throughout the land I would be pleased indeed.
Solution - remove cost to respecc until dual spec is implemented.
I'd rather they do it right than they rush it fuck it up and spend months making it not a giant bag of crap but I play feral druid so I could just be riding the high of the changes we're getting. Now if I only had more than 3 defensive stats worth stacking.
...
*cough*
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That would be well and good if they hadn't already committed to it, which they most certainly did. You'll rarely find me calling them out for anything. Most people bitch about Blizzard over misunderstandings and they throw things back in their face "over and over" again like retarded savages eg: TO THE GROUND. This is not the same.
Thanks for helping though.
You're so cool.
I know. It's ok to be jealous.
Man, am I the only engineering completionist left? It was also decent for repeatedly picking the lock to the back door.
Terribly awesome? I loved hoping in a tank and shooting frostbolts at people.
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I liked it, but I can see why others didn't. I suspect if they had toned down the mob density it would get much less hate.
It really sucks shit if you have absolutely no ranged attack, like a warrior. I can't attack a tank at all if it's moving, even if I'm right in the center of it. Riding shotgun on tanks is a waste, can't attack the turrets, can't even attack the doors. Aside from running with seaforium or engineering bombs and actually driving the tanks/turrets, I'm all but useless in the fight.
Still though, I love the place. A hell of a lot more fun than AV ever was, and damn faster too. This is the game I'll play when I need to farm up honor.
I ran it a lot of times, so I know it very well (although I haven't been in a long while). I'm also a master at Sunken Temple, Blackrock depths and upper and lower spire. Those are some of my favorite instances too.
I know the subject was just covered, but I admit I do miss those longer, more dangerous instances. It's starting to feel like we're a step or two away from getting door prize loot when we enter an instance.
What they need to do is make the winged instances more like Dire Maul and less like Scarlet Monastary
So you mean one big instance with multiple entrances? I could get behind that.
and less long linear hallways that end at the boss
DM is as close to the perfect instance that Blizzard ever achieved. If you want to do a BRD style massive run, you can do it. At the same time you can break it into small chunks. It's a damn shame so little of the player base got to run it on a consistant basis.
Do you mean the Escape The Worgen run, or is there an actual log ride?
If so, I'm going to go ride it all night once I get home.
Someone's been a very naughty dragon it seems
wtf, I got the Grizzly Achievement and I didn't get a log ride. Where is this
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That's somewhat disapointing, although alliance dosen't get an equivalent to the Pit of Conquest so I guess it evens out.
How the fuck are the winged instances in Dire Maul any different than Strat? It's the same exact concept.
You have to help an alliance guy get back to the camp. You're both on horseback and you're throwing flaming lanterns at werewolves chasing you. It is perhaps the most awesome escort quest of all time. If more escort quests were like this, they wouldn't fall into the "types of quest I fucking hate" category so much.
I love the way Strat is designed too.
Scarlet Monastery is just 3 hallways with seperate instance portals, thats what I dont like.
Er, I meant SM.
Dire Maul is also three portals.
I still fail to see the difference between the two.
Dire Maul has 3 portals but it's still one very big instance, the library in the center connects to both the North and West wings and most importantly the interior layout of the instances is large and non-linear and can be done through multiple routes.
Scarlet Monastery is just a hallway with mobs and then a boss at the end.
I actually agree with you
I like***ed* BRD a lot but what i got sick of in BC was the whole idea of *pack* pulls
I think Heroic Shattered Halls summed up everything i hated about new and old instance design
Pull 7 mobs, CC 2-3, tank 4... W T F?
That just screams stupidity
It got really fun doing those instances covered in top epic gear and just aoeing them all down, but back when you had to grab a tank and healer who died every 2 pulls it made it kind of stupid.
Thats just me, i might be wrong
While you can access both through either portals, you can also access the one you want via their own portals.
It's completely different than BRD which has 1 entrance and a billion different wings.
Also you could clear live and ud strat in a reasonable amount of time, both being the same level mobs. BRD mobs fluctuate ~10 levels and takes you about 15 times longer to clear than all of strat. So lame.
Also, why the fuck are we still arguing about this? My god let's move on.
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At the northern lumber camp/daily hub, there is an NPC that puts you on an auto-pilot log to Venture Bay. It's basically an awesomer free flight point, and there is an NPC for both factions.
That said, logs dont work that way in real life.
DM was just located in BFE so no one ever wanted to go. Such a waste of such a great instance.