I'm optimistic, but I am very worried that half of Obama's stuff will not get off the ground.
I'm worried, but I am very optimistic that half of Obama's stuff will not get off the ground.
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I am also pretty happy about his choice of Warren as an inaguration speaker. I know a lot of people who aren't, but, frankly, I think a show of solidarity is important enough that the gays should quit being so uppity about it.
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Hey guys remember that whole, "Separation of church from state" thing?
Yeah
What the hell happened to it?
Nothing.
There was some guy in the last politics thread that was basically saying America is a nigh-on theocratic nation and it made me want to barf.
I don't understand crazy talk Fandy
I'm just sayin', the general level of seperation between church and state in America has remained pretty consistent over the last two hundred years.
I dunno.
The whole argument for Prop 8 being under religious values seems kinda a step up.
Well, the problem with this argument is that prop 8 was democratically passed. It was voted on by religious people. Thusly, the decision was more of a manifestation of the conservative tendencies of the American populace then of us having a government that passes theological laws.
If, say, it was merely a bill introduced and passed by congress or somesuch, then I would take issue with it breaking that church/state boundary.
Well, the problem with this argument is that prop 8 was democratically passed. It was voted on by religious people. Thusly, the decision was more of a manifestation of the conservative tendencies of the American populace then of us having a government that passes theological laws.
If, say, it was merely a bill introduced and passed by congress or somesuch, then I would take issue with it breaking that church/state boundary.
o_O
It doesn't matter how the fuck a law is passed; if it violates a constitutional tenet, it's unconstitutional.
Democracy is more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
Hey guys remember that whole, "Separation of church from state" thing?
Yeah
What the hell happened to it?
Nothing.
There was some guy in the last politics thread that was basically saying America is a nigh-on theocratic nation and it made me want to barf.
I don't understand crazy talk Fandy
I'm just sayin', the general level of seperation between church and state in America has remained pretty consistent over the last two hundred years.
I dunno.
The whole argument for Prop 8 being under religious values seems kinda a step up.
Well, the problem with this argument is that prop 8 was democratically passed. It was voted on by religious people. Thusly, the decision was more of a manifestation of the conservative tendencies of the American populace then of us having a government that passes theological laws.
If, say, it was merely a bill introduced and passed by congress or somesuch, then I would take issue with it breaking that church/state boundary.
Even if it is still voted on by the people, doesn't that still break that boundary once it hits law?
Well, the problem with this argument is that prop 8 was democratically passed. It was voted on by religious people. Thusly, the decision was more of a manifestation of the conservative tendencies of the American populace then of us having a government that passes theological laws.
If, say, it was merely a bill introduced and passed by congress or somesuch, then I would take issue with it breaking that church/state boundary.
o_O
It doesn't matter how the fuck a law is passed; if it violates a constitutional tenet, it's unconstitutional.
Democracy is more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
I was under the impression that prop eight didn't violate any constitutional tenets because, in legal terms, it's not represented as a religious law. Even though we all know it is.
People forget that the separation of church and state, as stated in the Bill of Rights, only has to do with the State making laws about religions. It's to protect the Church from the State, not the other way around.
It has nothing to do with the religious beliefs of the populace influencing elections.
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I mean what is the deal, fellas
Putin is winning.
I'm worried, but I am very optimistic that half of Obama's stuff will not get off the ground.
This is how all international diplomacy should be settled.
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He's sooooo cool.
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What the hell happened to it?
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Nothing.
There was some guy in the last politics thread that was basically saying America is a nigh-on theocratic nation and it made me want to barf.
People elect assholes who "religious qualifications..." =/
ma'am
Hurrrrrrf
I don't understand crazy talk Fandy
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I'm just sayin', the general level of seperation between church and state in America has remained pretty consistent over the last two hundred years.
I dunno.
The whole argument for Prop 8 being under religious values seems kinda a step up.
hey satan...: thinkgeek amazon My post |
the government is giving lip service to religion, same as it's ever been
Well, the problem with this argument is that prop 8 was democratically passed. It was voted on by religious people. Thusly, the decision was more of a manifestation of the conservative tendencies of the American populace then of us having a government that passes theological laws.
If, say, it was merely a bill introduced and passed by congress or somesuch, then I would take issue with it breaking that church/state boundary.
It doesn't matter how the fuck a law is passed; if it violates a constitutional tenet, it's unconstitutional.
Democracy is more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
Waiting.
Waiting for the right opportunity to strike.
Even if it is still voted on by the people, doesn't that still break that boundary once it hits law?
hey satan...: thinkgeek amazon My post |
I was under the impression that prop eight didn't violate any constitutional tenets because, in legal terms, it's not represented as a religious law. Even though we all know it is.
It has nothing to do with the religious beliefs of the populace influencing elections.
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YEAH? WELL WHAT KIND OF POWER DOES THAT 'ATTORNEY GENERAL' HAVE WHEN HE IS UP AGAINST MY GOD? HUH?