I don't see how the signing of the stimulus has any effect on the Dow, isn't it taking massive hits right now because the final q4 reports are coming in and they're all terrible?
So what's this about this college tax credit? I was going out of pocket and have a fair amount of debt to devry, and didn't know such a thing existed. How does one get that thing once this is all in place?
You probably can't get it for this semester, but if you aren't going to graduate this summer then you can apply for it next semester. I'd still talk to financial aid or whatever and see if you can get some monies now as it isn't gonna hurt anything, but I think you're screwed.
So what's this about this college tax credit? I was going out of pocket and have a fair amount of debt to devry, and didn't know such a thing existed. How does one get that thing once this is all in place?
You probably can't get it for this semester, but if you aren't going to graduate this summer then you can apply for it next semester. I'd still talk to financial aid or whatever and see if you can get some monies now as it isn't gonna hurt anything, but I think you're screwed.
Well to go back to devry it's only $700/month they want me to start paying them, presumable I could pay one payment and also get this tax credit. I shall ask their financial aid department!
Then I can just finish up this stupid associates degree and go to a school I can afford.
I don't see how the signing of the stimulus has any effect on the Dow, isn't it taking massive hits right now because the final q4 reports are coming in and they're all terrible?
We govern by DOW! Get with the program.
Always remember that the collective intellects of everyone who appears on cable news minus Rachel Maddow is approximately equal to that of a dead squirrel.
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I don't see how the signing of the stimulus has any effect on the Dow, isn't it taking massive hits right now because the final q4 reports are coming in and they're all terrible?
Anyone who attributes anything to the short term movement of the Dow is a fucking idiot who knows nothing about traders.
I don't see how the signing of the stimulus has any effect on the Dow, isn't it taking massive hits right now because the final q4 reports are coming in and they're all terrible?
It's a big day for the auto industry as they have to make a progress report on their restructuring efforts. So there may be some anxiety over that.
Jan. 27, 2009: House Republicans surround the President after the meeting. Many of them were seeking his autograph. Every House Republican eventually voted against the bill.
edit The photo gallery is actually pretty awesome by itself
Jan. 27, 2009: House Republicans surround the President after the meeting. Many of them were seeking his autograph. Every House Republican eventually voted against the bill.
edit The photo gallery is actually pretty awesome by itself
Pic 8 is awesome.
Yeah, the White House is pretty swank thanks mostly to Truman and Kennedy. Also, to a lesser extent, Bush updating the Sit Room and Press Briefing Room. Though it seems like they could/should still enlarge and improve the West Wing and the East Wing a bit.
It's been so long since I've posted here, I've removed my signature since most of what I had here were broken links. Shows over, you can carry on to the next post.
At least he can say he's adhering to free-market principles!
I thought that there was language in the bill that allowed the state legislature to side-step the governor and obtain these funds for themselves. I brought it up earlier in the thread but I don't think anyone ever replied. I can't remember where I heard it, probably on the radio. I'm gonna look for it.
Louisiana will writhe feebly in its poverty and dismay.
Meanwhile, Jindal is on the fast track to GOP Sacrificial Lamb '12.
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Louisiana will writhe feebly in its poverty and dismay.
Meanwhile, Jindal is on the fast track to GOP Sacrificial Lamb '12.
Nah. He's young.
He might run, but only to build support and contacts for 2016.
Young.
Like Obama.
And he's non-white.
Like Obama.
How could he possibly lose.
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Texas' Governor is making low level grumblings about the stimulus package. But all it will end up meaning is that we'll be very careful whether to expend the entirety of the package. We're not about to blindly saddle ourselves with future obligations.
But rejecting it on principle? Man, we've got to repay our share of the package anyways, might as well spend what we can.
I don't see how the signing of the stimulus has any effect on the Dow, isn't it taking massive hits right now because the final q4 reports are coming in and they're all terrible?
Anyone who attributes anything to the short term movement of the Dow is a fucking idiot who knows nothing about traders.
Didn't the Dow go down over 600 points the first day the markets opened after 9-11?
Texas' Governor is making low level grumblings about the stimulus package. But all it will end up meaning is that we'll be very careful whether to expend the entirety of the package. We're not about to blindly saddle ourselves with future obligations.
But rejecting it on principle? Man, we've got to repay our share of the package anyways, might as well spend what we can.
I'll be interested in how Texas handles the stimulus, and later Obama's energy plan. As far as I can tell the state is not yet in recession, and since we lead the nation in wind power we could get a big boost if the upcoming energy bill has lots of money for wind.
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Well if there's any way to win the Southern Republican vote, its to be a dark skinned guy with a foreign name. Oh and Catholic doesn't hurt. Shame that he isn't Muslim or Jewish but it'll have to do.
Sec. 1607. (a) Certification by Governor.--Not later than
45 days after the date of enactment of this Act, for funds
provided to any State or agency thereof, the Governor of the
State shall certify that: (1) the State will request and use
funds provided by this Act; and (2) the funds will be used to
create jobs and promote economic growth.
(b) Acceptance by State Legislature.--If funds provided to
any State in any division of this Act are not accepted for
use by the Governor, then acceptance by the State
legislature, by means of the adoption of a concurrent
resolution, shall be sufficient to provide funding to such
State.
(c) Distribution.--After the adoption of a State
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Texas' Governor is making low level grumblings about the stimulus package. But all it will end up meaning is that we'll be very careful whether to expend the entirety of the package. We're not about to blindly saddle ourselves with future obligations.
But rejecting it on principle? Man, we've got to repay our share of the package anyways, might as well spend what we can.
I'll be interested in how Texas handles the stimulus, and later Obama's energy plan. As far as I can tell the state is not yet in recession, and since we lead the nation in wind power we could get a big boost if the upcoming energy bill has lots of money for wind.
Wind also means more business for Denmark, we have one of the worlds largest wind companies and they're pretty much the only ones still putting out healthy reports. I should get a job there, they pay 40% more then the average for pretty much every position.
Texas' Governor is making low level grumblings about the stimulus package. But all it will end up meaning is that we'll be very careful whether to expend the entirety of the package. We're not about to blindly saddle ourselves with future obligations.
But rejecting it on principle? Man, we've got to repay our share of the package anyways, might as well spend what we can.
I'll be interested in how Texas handles the stimulus, and later Obama's energy plan. As far as I can tell the state is not yet in recession, and since we lead the nation in wind power we could get a big boost if the upcoming energy bill has lots of money for wind.
Wind also means more business for Denmark, we have one of the worlds largest wind companies and they're pretty much the only ones still putting out healthy reports. I should get a job there, they pay 40% more then the average for pretty much every position.
It'll probably mean more business for GE, actually. Though the Danes are doing pretty good with the European market as Germany and France are upping their renewables portfolio. It'll be interesting to see what happens after the design of them reach the maximum of ~59% efficiency in a few years as after that point it's basically just a cost issue and a size issue for manufacturing.
I don't see how the signing of the stimulus has any effect on the Dow, isn't it taking massive hits right now because the final q4 reports are coming in and they're all terrible?
Anyone who attributes anything to the short term movement of the Dow is a fucking idiot who knows nothing about traders.
Hey it's just what I read, that companies for the last few weeks have been throwing out murderously horrid q4 reports and it's been shitting the market. I'm not an economist, but it seems reasonable. This is in addition to the 500,000 other depressing economic things that have been happening.
iirc, Louisiana is one of the "Welfare states" that injests more money than it excretes, which would make the governer a hypocrite.
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As I get home, you remember how I showed five promises that got a score on the Obameter from the stimulus bill?
Hahahaha, wow, did that understate things. Think more like 50. They aren't official on the website yet, but... yeah. Some of the other promises covered (again, only a fraction of the total):
But the new law includes dozens more that weren’t initially intended as an economic stimulus. On energy, it addresses promises such as No. 452, “Weatherize 1 million homes per year” and No. 468, “Require hybrid fleet at the White House.” On the environment, it addresses No. 500, “Increase funding for the Environmental Protection Agency” and No. 263, “Improve water quality.”
The bill addresses many other promises that could be labeled “miscellaneous,” such as No. 278, “Remove more brush, small trees and vegetation that fuel wildfires,” No. 371, “Fund a major expansion of AmeriCorps,” and No. 345, “Enhance earth mapping.”
The problem, now, is what the hell do you do for an encore.
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Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
You, of all people, should be a Jimmy Carter fan. He was one of the biggest deregulation Presidents in our nation's history, deregulating the airlines, trucking, rail, communications, and financial industries.
And look at all the good it did for our economy over the same period!
Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
You, of all people, should be a Jimmy Carter fan. He was one of the biggest deregulation Presidents in our nation's history, deregulating the airlines, trucking, rail, communications, and financial industries.
And look at all the good it did for our economy over the same period!
His foreign policy was decent. He withdrew troops from South Korea in contrast to Obama escalating in Afghanistan. He also cut the defense budget.
But his economic policies? Atrocious. Price controls, Windfall Profit Taxes, the increase of the payroll tax? Pretty awful.
Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
How much do you know about the mechanisms by which inflation actually works?
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Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
Texas' Governor is making low level grumblings about the stimulus package. But all it will end up meaning is that we'll be very careful whether to expend the entirety of the package. We're not about to blindly saddle ourselves with future obligations.
But rejecting it on principle? Man, we've got to repay our share of the package anyways, might as well spend what we can.
I'll be interested in how Texas handles the stimulus, and later Obama's energy plan. As far as I can tell the state is not yet in recession, and since we lead the nation in wind power we could get a big boost if the upcoming energy bill has lots of money for wind.
As I understand it, the oil industry is going to be/is being hit hard, and that hurts us a lot (especially around Houston).
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Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
As someone who is uninsured, allow me to say DO IT NOW OBAMA OH GOD.
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Pass universal healthcare. Then you take a cool down lap with comprehensive energy reform, and wrap it all up with 6 years of kicking back and relaxing
As someone who is uninsured, allow me to say DO IT NOW OBAMA OH GOD.
This.
Though I'm willing to start with something less comprehensive at first so people can get a taste of what First World medicine is actually like.
As I get home, you remember how I showed five promises that got a score on the Obameter from the stimulus bill?
Hahahaha, wow, did that understate things. Think more like 50. They aren't official on the website yet, but... yeah. Some of the other promises covered (again, only a fraction of the total):
But the new law includes dozens more that weren’t initially intended as an economic stimulus. On energy, it addresses promises such as No. 452, “Weatherize 1 million homes per year†and No. 468, “Require hybrid fleet at the White House.†On the environment, it addresses No. 500, “Increase funding for the Environmental Protection Agency†and No. 263, “Improve water quality.â€
The bill addresses many other promises that could be labeled “miscellaneous,†such as No. 278, “Remove more brush, small trees and vegetation that fuel wildfires,†No. 371, “Fund a major expansion of AmeriCorps,†and No. 345, “Enhance earth mapping.â€
The problem, now, is what the hell do you do for an encore.
The funny thing about this is that Polifact seems to have realized that having an active and effective President who keeps his promises might result in some work. So instead they're like "Um, he fulfilled a bunch of promises" and haven't gotten around to updating their database yet.
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/134/send-two-additional-brigades-to-afghanistan/
since it was just announced on CNN
Librarians harbor a terrible secret. Find it.
You probably can't get it for this semester, but if you aren't going to graduate this summer then you can apply for it next semester. I'd still talk to financial aid or whatever and see if you can get some monies now as it isn't gonna hurt anything, but I think you're screwed.
Well to go back to devry it's only $700/month they want me to start paying them, presumable I could pay one payment and also get this tax credit. I shall ask their financial aid department!
Then I can just finish up this stupid associates degree and go to a school I can afford.
We govern by DOW! Get with the program.
Always remember that the collective intellects of everyone who appears on cable news minus Rachel Maddow is approximately equal to that of a dead squirrel.
Anyone who attributes anything to the short term movement of the Dow is a fucking idiot who knows nothing about traders.
It's a big day for the auto industry as they have to make a progress report on their restructuring efforts. So there may be some anxiety over that.
But what do I know.
Pic 8 is awesome.
Yeah, the White House is pretty swank thanks mostly to Truman and Kennedy. Also, to a lesser extent, Bush updating the Sit Room and Press Briefing Room. Though it seems like they could/should still enlarge and improve the West Wing and the East Wing a bit.
Awesome...
I'm working 60.
Would you like a job cooking in a mexican restaurant? I'll give that one to you for a small piece of the action.
At least he can say he's adhering to free-market principles!
I thought that there was language in the bill that allowed the state legislature to side-step the governor and obtain these funds for themselves. I brought it up earlier in the thread but I don't think anyone ever replied. I can't remember where I heard it, probably on the radio. I'm gonna look for it.
Meanwhile, Jindal is on the fast track to GOP Sacrificial Lamb '12.
Nah. He's young.
He might run, but only to build support and contacts for 2016.
Young.
Like Obama.
And he's non-white.
Like Obama.
How could he possibly lose.
But rejecting it on principle? Man, we've got to repay our share of the package anyways, might as well spend what we can.
Didn't the Dow go down over 600 points the first day the markets opened after 9-11?
Too much. The black helicopters will be along shortly.
Fun Fact: Luisiana is a shithole.
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/histpov/hstpov19.html
It beats out most states in a bad way in terms of poverty.
Well if there's any way to win the Southern Republican vote, its to be a dark skinned guy with a foreign name. Oh and Catholic doesn't hurt. Shame that he isn't Muslim or Jewish but it'll have to do.
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Wind also means more business for Denmark, we have one of the worlds largest wind companies and they're pretty much the only ones still putting out healthy reports. I should get a job there, they pay 40% more then the average for pretty much every position.
It'll probably mean more business for GE, actually. Though the Danes are doing pretty good with the European market as Germany and France are upping their renewables portfolio. It'll be interesting to see what happens after the design of them reach the maximum of ~59% efficiency in a few years as after that point it's basically just a cost issue and a size issue for manufacturing.
Hey it's just what I read, that companies for the last few weeks have been throwing out murderously horrid q4 reports and it's been shitting the market. I'm not an economist, but it seems reasonable. This is in addition to the 500,000 other depressing economic things that have been happening.
iirc, Louisiana is one of the "Welfare states" that injests more money than it excretes, which would make the governer a hypocrite.
Hahahaha, wow, did that understate things. Think more like 50. They aren't official on the website yet, but... yeah. Some of the other promises covered (again, only a fraction of the total):
The problem, now, is what the hell do you do for an encore.
While the economy crumbles and hyper inflation squeezes the last remaining social mobility out of the middle class right after the new new deal runs out of capital, foreign banks collect on their debts and social security implodes.
Jimmy Carter Part II is going to be fascinating to watch.
And then, werewolves!
You, of all people, should be a Jimmy Carter fan. He was one of the biggest deregulation Presidents in our nation's history, deregulating the airlines, trucking, rail, communications, and financial industries.
And look at all the good it did for our economy over the same period!
His foreign policy was decent. He withdrew troops from South Korea in contrast to Obama escalating in Afghanistan. He also cut the defense budget.
But his economic policies? Atrocious. Price controls, Windfall Profit Taxes, the increase of the payroll tax? Pretty awful.
How much do you know about the mechanisms by which inflation actually works?
This is just not going to happen.
As I understand it, the oil industry is going to be/is being hit hard, and that hurts us a lot (especially around Houston).
As someone who is uninsured, allow me to say DO IT NOW OBAMA OH GOD.
This.
Though I'm willing to start with something less comprehensive at first so people can get a taste of what First World medicine is actually like.
allow me to say DO IT NOW OBAMA.
The funny thing about this is that Polifact seems to have realized that having an active and effective President who keeps his promises might result in some work. So instead they're like "Um, he fulfilled a bunch of promises" and haven't gotten around to updating their database yet.
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+