I don't get the big deal about fetuses. I mean, it's not like we have a shortage of people on the planet. We don't really need anymore.
Not until we can make a shift towards greater sustainability and start our campaign of galactic conquest, anyways.
look man, those fetuses could be put to work in the dilithium mines
People seriously underestimate the value of fetus labor. Their hands are tiny, and can reach places a normal person's can't. Very beneficial when you're working with tiny robots, which are necessary for dilithium cultivation.
the tyrell corporation didn't make enough nexus 6 replicants that were infant size.
this ultimately led to the downfall of civilization.
"More fetus than fetus" was the marketing slogan for the Nexus 6.
the four year lifespan on the fetus models was rarely needed, they just genetically engineered them to remain that size for eternity.
Who cares if they devolped emotions, they were pretty easy to oppress.
Seriously. I mean, what are they going to do about it? Nothing. You know why? Because they're tiny.
Also: because they're babies.
If we can't stop the robot baby uprising it's time for the human race to throw in the fucking towel.
I mean, good job on becoming the dominant species, but the thing you created that led to your ultimate destruction was robot babies?! Good fucking work geniuses.
But that's just it; no one expects a robot baby uprising! The little fuckers could bomb the capitol tomorrow, and they'd never be the prime suspects. We'd be halfway up some Muslim extremist's butt before we'd even think to investigate the possibility of a robot baby terrorism.
Damn, Hacksaw, that's some funny shit right there.
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We developed gun powder based weapons for a reason guys. Sure, you'll have to sabot the fetus to get a good seal for some velocity, but that's not too difficult.
What if we used fetuses as some kind of power source? Like we powered our cars with ground up fetal parts or something?
I can barely see through my tears I'm laughing so hard.
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Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
then it's just a matter of definition, which I may have confused
I will put it plainly
so long as the fetus is not self aware its fine to conduct an abortion
this moment in time, according to my view, is when the baby kicks
afterwards its not
this is just my personal belief, I'm not saying "by this parameter men should conduct their affairs"
A person in a vegetative state (i.e. brain dead but breathing) can kick due to involuntary muscle contractions. Are they self aware?
Kicking =/= self aware. I'm not saying a kicking fetus isn't self aware, but causation DO DO DO, correlation DEE DEE DEE.
Also, some babies just don't kick. It doesn't happen often, and is usually a sign that you have a dead baby inside you, but sometimes a healthy and otherwise normal baby can come to term without any noticeable kicking. Even more often, they kick infrequently, or late in their development, and so on. In the same way that kicking does not indicate self awareness, not kicking doesn't indicate a lack of self awareness.
I think maybe it's intended to be a sort of rule of thumb, in which case it's not really any more or less arbitrary than restrictions based on week, size, or trimester, but I'm generally opposed to using a "rule of thumb" when you're asking whether or not it's okay to kill something.
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Now I'm just thinking of that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Mac pretends to be rabidly pro-life to hook up with the hot pro-life chick, and then when she tells him she's pregnant, he slips up and immediately says "you have to get an abortion!"
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
None of man's greatest accomplishments have been achieved without the sacrifice of a few lives.
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Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well we can't believe there's a gay gene, because then we could test for it. That would mean we would have no basis to deny homosexual couples the rights to adopt because their environment could no way affect the child's sexuality later in life.
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
it's good to know there are some things we can still agree on
Now I'm just thinking of that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Mac pretends to be rabidly pro-life to hook up with the hot pro-life chick, and then when she tells him she's pregnant, he slips up and immediately says "you have to get an abortion!"
And it turned out she was just testing him
Just now?
I think of that the moment anyone ever mentions abortions.
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well now
If my idiotic parents could have known beforehand about my medical problems, should they have aborted me?
I have cost taxpayers and private insurance millions. literally. multiple millions of dollars.
Have my contributions to society offset this cost?
no. no they have not. Therefore on a logical level. I should have been aborted. And I am ok with this. I personally believe that this kind of logic SHOULD be put into use. If the strain on society is not off-set by the end product, cut it at the root.
Now I'm just thinking of that episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia where Mac pretends to be rabidly pro-life to hook up with the hot pro-life chick, and then when she tells him she's pregnant, he slips up and immediately says "you have to get an abortion!"
And it turned out she was just testing him
Just now?
I think of that the moment anyone ever mentions abortions.
Sometimes it makes me giggle.
Sometimes people think I'm creepy.
which makes my attraction to pregnant ladies raise even further questions.
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Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well now
If my idiotic parents could have known beforehand about my medical problems, should they have aborted me?
I have cost taxpayers and private insurance millions. literally. multiple millions of dollars.
Have my contributions to society offset this cost?
no. no they have not. Therefore on a logical level. I should have been aborted. And I am ok with this. I personally believe that this kind of logic SHOULD be put into use. If the strain on society is not off-set by the end product, cut it at the root.
Or if we had the technology we could have fixed the problems too.
Maybe given you gecko hands or bat wings too. Spice it up a bit.
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well we can't believe there's a gay gene, because then we could test for it. That would mean we would have no basis to deny homosexual couples the rights to adopt because their environment could no way affect the child's sexuality later in life.
No, I mean the gene that could predispose you towards homosexuality, we know there are environmental factors as well.
I mean, even if it's 1%, you can't be too careful, and it's not really a person, so...
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We developed gun powder based weapons for a reason guys. Sure, you'll have to sabot the fetus to get a good seal for some velocity, but that's not too difficult.
I'm fine with this as long as we use brown fetuses
We developed gun powder based weapons for a reason guys. Sure, you'll have to sabot the fetus to get a good seal for some velocity, but that's not too difficult.
I'm fine with this as long as we use brown fetuses
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Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well now
If my idiotic parents could have known beforehand about my medical problems, should they have aborted me?
I have cost taxpayers and private insurance millions. literally. multiple millions of dollars.
Have my contributions to society offset this cost?
no. no they have not. Therefore on a logical level. I should have been aborted. And I am ok with this. I personally believe that this kind of logic SHOULD be put into use. If the strain on society is not off-set by the end product, cut it at the root.
i haven't cost the taxpayers as much money as you, but i have cost quite a bit! my friend asks me why i don't just sell my sperm, and when i inform them that i don't think i could handle the thought of putting a child through multiple craniofacial surgeries if there is something genetically wrong with me instead of shitty luck.
if it's just shitty luck i'd do it all day long, but if there is something wrong genetically that is traceable? nah, that's wrong.
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Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well we can't believe there's a gay gene, because then we could test for it. That would mean we would have no basis to deny homosexual couples the rights to adopt because their environment could no way affect the child's sexuality later in life.
No, I mean the gene that could predispose you towards homosexuality, we know there are environmental factors as well.
I mean, even if it's 1%, you can't be too careful, and it's not really a person, so...
Hey now, only gay men and ugly gay women are potentially environmental dangers. Hot bi-curious chicks are all American fun.
As for the fetus, we can install some anti-gay shielding inside the uterus to protect it from the environmental stimulus. Hang little American flags, red meat, and pictures of Ronald Reagan in there. Then we can genetically program them to work blue collar jobs, pay their taxes, and be satisfied buying commercial electronic devices every fiscal cycle. Like shoes with lights in them and a new iPod nano deluxe super supreme infinity pro elite X-2.
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well we can't believe there's a gay gene, because then we could test for it. That would mean we would have no basis to deny homosexual couples the rights to adopt because their environment could no way affect the child's sexuality later in life.
No, I mean the gene that could predispose you towards homosexuality, we know there are environmental factors as well.
I mean, even if it's 1%, you can't be too careful, and it's not really a person, so...
Hey now, only gay men and ugly gay women are potentially environmental dangers. Hot bi-curious chicks are all American fun.
As for the fetus, we can install some anti-gay shielding inside the uterus to protect it from the environmental stimulus. Hang little American flags, red meat, and pictures of Ronald Reagan in there. Then we can genetically program them to work blue collar jobs, pay their taxes, and be satisfied buying commercial electronic devices every fiscal cycle. Like shoes with lights in them and a new iPod nano deluxe super supreme infinity pro elite X-2.
Hey Deacon, what if I developed a technology that could turn aborted fetuses into a cure for homosexuality. Which greater good/evil/whatever would you pick?
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
Well we can't believe there's a gay gene, because then we could test for it. That would mean we would have no basis to deny homosexual couples the rights to adopt because their environment could no way affect the child's sexuality later in life.
No, I mean the gene that could predispose you towards homosexuality, we know there are environmental factors as well.
I mean, even if it's 1%, you can't be too careful, and it's not really a person, so...
Hey now, only gay men and ugly gay women are potentially environmental dangers. Hot bi-curious chicks are all American fun.
As for the fetus, we can install some anti-gay shielding inside the uterus to protect it from the environmental stimulus. Hang little American flags, red meat, and pictures of Ronald Reagan in there. Then we can genetically program them to work blue collar jobs, pay their taxes, and be satisfied buying commercial electronic devices every fiscal cycle. Like shoes with lights in them and a new iPod nano deluxe super supreme infinity pro elite X-2.
the X-3 is far superior
You would be stupid not to buy one. Un-American too.
We developed gun powder based weapons for a reason guys. Sure, you'll have to sabot the fetus to get a good seal for some velocity, but that's not too difficult.
I'm fine with this as long as we use brown fetuses
I believe that eugenics could be extremely beneficial, and that without it there will be a much more catastrophic, natural, and unavoidable adjustment of the gene pool. I have some hesitations about the practicality of execution, but I believe this could be easily overcome.
At the same time, I am extremely opposed to it on moral grounds and so would not consider supporting in any way any effort with any eugenic basis.
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A person in a vegetative state (i.e. brain dead but breathing) can kick due to involuntary muscle contractions. Are they self aware?
Kicking =/= self aware. I'm not saying a kicking fetus isn't self aware, but causation DO DO DO, correlation DEE DEE DEE.
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Just as and aside, when we went for our month ultrasound, it was swimming and bouncing all around in there like a spaz.
At one point just doing a backstroke with her hands behind her head, just chilling out.
It was.. weird.
fetus catapults
Most people would be shocked by that, but I'm so "edgy" I said it anyway!
I know
it's perfectly reasonable a kick is just a nerve misfiring, and means nothing as to the baby's conciseness
I choose to believe that, from that point on, the risk that it isn't should override the possibility that it is
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What if we used fetuses as some kind of power source? Like we powered our cars with ground up fetal parts or something?
I can barely see through my tears I'm laughing so hard.
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Also, some babies just don't kick. It doesn't happen often, and is usually a sign that you have a dead baby inside you, but sometimes a healthy and otherwise normal baby can come to term without any noticeable kicking. Even more often, they kick infrequently, or late in their development, and so on. In the same way that kicking does not indicate self awareness, not kicking doesn't indicate a lack of self awareness.
I think maybe it's intended to be a sort of rule of thumb, in which case it's not really any more or less arbitrary than restrictions based on week, size, or trimester, but I'm generally opposed to using a "rule of thumb" when you're asking whether or not it's okay to kill something.
Well, if we could identify the "gay gene", there would be nothing wrong with aborting a fetus based on that... right?
I mean you're just messing with a fetus, not doing something to another person, so it's cool.
And it turned out she was just testing him
sperm are motile
does that make them sentient?
None of man's greatest accomplishments have been achieved without the sacrifice of a few lives.
Well we can't believe there's a gay gene, because then we could test for it. That would mean we would have no basis to deny homosexual couples the rights to adopt because their environment could no way affect the child's sexuality later in life.
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Just now?
I think of that the moment anyone ever mentions abortions.
Sometimes it makes me giggle.
Sometimes people think I'm creepy.
Well now
If my idiotic parents could have known beforehand about my medical problems, should they have aborted me?
I have cost taxpayers and private insurance millions. literally. multiple millions of dollars.
Have my contributions to society offset this cost?
no. no they have not. Therefore on a logical level. I should have been aborted. And I am ok with this. I personally believe that this kind of logic SHOULD be put into use. If the strain on society is not off-set by the end product, cut it at the root.
Or if we had the technology we could have fixed the problems too.
Maybe given you gecko hands or bat wings too. Spice it up a bit.
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My sperm told me they don't like it when you chew them.
No, I mean the gene that could predispose you towards homosexuality, we know there are environmental factors as well.
I mean, even if it's 1%, you can't be too careful, and it's not really a person, so...
How do they get from his asshole all the way to his mouth?
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No that's cool, I'm down with that.
You know those little snot sucker things you use to clear a baby's nose?
i haven't cost the taxpayers as much money as you, but i have cost quite a bit! my friend asks me why i don't just sell my sperm, and when i inform them that i don't think i could handle the thought of putting a child through multiple craniofacial surgeries if there is something genetically wrong with me instead of shitty luck.
if it's just shitty luck i'd do it all day long, but if there is something wrong genetically that is traceable? nah, that's wrong.
Hey now, only gay men and ugly gay women are potentially environmental dangers. Hot bi-curious chicks are all American fun.
As for the fetus, we can install some anti-gay shielding inside the uterus to protect it from the environmental stimulus. Hang little American flags, red meat, and pictures of Ronald Reagan in there. Then we can genetically program them to work blue collar jobs, pay their taxes, and be satisfied buying commercial electronic devices every fiscal cycle. Like shoes with lights in them and a new iPod nano deluxe super supreme infinity pro elite X-2.
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the X-3 is far superior
stop it guys
that's cause there are retarded people posting
You would be stupid not to buy one. Un-American too.
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At the same time, I am extremely opposed to it on moral grounds and so would not consider supporting in any way any effort with any eugenic basis.
SERIOUSLY, I'VE HAD MORE STIMULATING CONVERSATIONS WITH STRIPPERS.