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[EvE] It's slightly less boring than discussing politics
DeadlySherpa
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Gentlemen, welcome to EVE Online.
EVE Online is an MMO set in the space region called New Eden, irrevocably separated from Earth after an incident involving the Eve Gate, the one connection between New Eden and Earth.
The game world spans hundreds of solar systems, divided into several regions of varying security level from 1.0 to 0.0 -- the former being highly patrolled by NPC police, the latter being lawless territory for the largest player corporations to war over. It would take several hours at best to travel from one side of the galaxy to another.
Not only is the game world vast in a spatial sense, but in a player sense. Eve Online is entirely unsharded -- every single player shares the same game world, with between 15,000 - 55,000 players online at any given time.
The mechanics of Eve, allowing player corporations to claim sovereignty over resource rich 0.0 space, has led to the emergence of player-created geopolitics that, for many, are far more interesting than the game content itself.
Space is divided into three general security levels on a scale from 1.0 to 0.0. 1.0 to 0.5 is considered high security Empire space, where players who commit aggressive acts against other players will swiftly and inevitably have their ships destroyed by the NPC police organization CONCORD. High security space is not a TOTAL guarantor of safety, but it's close.
0.4 to 0.1 is considered low security Empire space, where aggressive acts can take place without CONCORD retribution, but your personal security status will dive and automated turrets around stations and gates will open fire for a time.
0.0 is lawless space; there is absolutely no retribution for aggression, and most players consider it to be where the real meaty stuff takes place. It also has the best resources in terms of NPC bounties and asteroids to mine in the game. It's completely player-run. Players hold sovereignty over space, and players make the wars.
Here is the current map representing alliance influence, updated daily here, if you really need to actually read who those nebulous blobs of color represent.
Also, a good resource for sovereignty and territory information is DOTLAN so check that out too.
This is a quick look at current influence holdings as of april 7th:
POLITICS
I will attempt to keep this section as barren as possible, in the interest of generating speculation and controversy. If someone does a decent rundown of known spaceholders and their current situations it may be placed here.
Major Events / News of the past months
- BoB disbanded as an alliance in EvE, gets turned into a Goonswarm Corporation
- Goonswarm takes Delve with the help of their Brosefs
- Kenzoku Alliance (previously BoB) join with -A- and many other friends and try to take back delve. Currently have gained ownership of a station system in querious; 49-. Battle still rages for control.
- Some stuff with Pandemic Legion trading dread fleets in a big brawl over northwards, some 90+ caps destroyed
- Kenzoku dread fleet destroyed in a hot drop. Speculation about if the dreads were replaced or not still rages.
- xXdeathXx and solar doin some same ol same ol over by drone regions I think they are p. happy with their stuff
- IRC/ED tried to open a second front on RA to help out A.S.S.C.A.K.E.S. to ease pressure but they got all their alliance assets stolen and the entire NC reset them instead.
- Some russian guy sold $100 000 worth of timecards to help his alliance and buy stuff for them
If I missed anything gimme a shout.
This thread not strictly war / politics, but should be considered more of an Eve General Bullshit thread -- possible mechanics / patch changes, inane tidbits about what you did in Eve today, discussion of how awesome exotic dancers are, they're all fine here.
Newbies or non-players who like chatting about the game's politics or general news should feel free to hop in, but please keep newbie questions related to joining Merch Industrial or newbie questions related to basic Eve information like skills/fittings questions to the threads linked at the top (which I hope vets will post in, to help the newbies out both in-game and here).
It's also not an GS vs. ?????? thread. Merch Industrial is part of Goonswarm, so naturally the information and discussion will tend that way, but honestly I'm always curious what the fuck is going on up north, in the drone regions, or in Providence and Catch because I never hear about them anymore. So if you're from there, fill us in, and I'll try to keep the OP updated.
Gentlemen, welcome to EVE Online.
EVE Online is an MMO set in the space region called New Eden, irrevocably separated from Earth after an incident involving the Eve Gate, the one connection between New Eden and Earth.
The game world spans hundreds of solar systems, divided into several regions of varying security level from 1.0 to 0.0 -- the former being highly patrolled by NPC police, the latter being lawless territory for the largest player corporations to war over. It would take several hours at best to travel from one side of the galaxy to another.
Not only is the game world vast in a spatial sense, but in a player sense. Eve Online is entirely unsharded -- every single player shares the same game world, with between 15,000 - 55,000 players online at any given time.
The mechanics of Eve, allowing player corporations to claim sovereignty over resource rich 0.0 space, has led to the emergence of player-created geopolitics that, for many, are far more interesting than the game content itself.
Space is divided into three general security levels on a scale from 1.0 to 0.0. 1.0 to 0.5 is considered high security Empire space, where players who commit aggressive acts against other players will swiftly and inevitably have their ships destroyed by the NPC police organization CONCORD. High security space is not a TOTAL guarantor of safety, but it's close.
0.4 to 0.1 is considered low security Empire space, where aggressive acts can take place without CONCORD retribution, but your personal security status will dive and automated turrets around stations and gates will open fire for a time.
0.0 is lawless space; there is absolutely no retribution for aggression, and most players consider it to be where the real meaty stuff takes place. It also has the best resources in terms of NPC bounties and asteroids to mine in the game. It's completely player-run. Players hold sovereignty over space, and players make the wars.
Here is the current map representing alliance influence, updated daily here, if you really need to actually read who those nebulous blobs of color represent.
Also, a good resource for sovereignty and territory information is DOTLAN so check that out too.
This is a quick look at current influence holdings as of april 7th:
POLITICS
I will attempt to keep this section as barren as possible, in the interest of generating speculation and controversy. If someone does a decent rundown of known spaceholders and their current situations it may be placed here.
Major Events / News of the past months
- BoB disbanded as an alliance in EvE, gets turned into a Goonswarm Corporation
- Goonswarm takes Delve with the help of their Brosefs
- Kenzoku Alliance (previously BoB) join with -A- and many other friends and try to take back delve. Currently have gained ownership of a station system in querious; 49-. Battle still rages for control.
- Some stuff with Pandemic Legion trading dread fleets in a big brawl over northwards, some 90+ caps destroyed
- Kenzoku dread fleet destroyed in a hot drop. Speculation about if the dreads were replaced or not still rages.
- xXdeathXx and solar doin some same ol same ol over by drone regions I think they are p. happy with their stuff
- IRC/ED tried to open a second front on RA to help out A.S.S.C.A.K.E.S. to ease pressure but they got all their alliance assets stolen and the entire NC reset them instead.
- Some russian guy sold $100 000 worth of timecards to help his alliance and buy stuff for them
If I missed anything gimme a shout.
This thread not strictly war / politics, but should be considered more of an Eve General Bullshit thread -- possible mechanics / patch changes, inane tidbits about what you did in Eve today, discussion of how awesome exotic dancers are, they're all fine here.
Newbies or non-players who like chatting about the game's politics or general news should feel free to hop in, but please keep newbie questions related to joining Merch Industrial or newbie questions related to basic Eve information like skills/fittings questions to the threads linked at the top (which I hope vets will post in, to help the newbies out both in-game and here).
It's also not an GS vs. ?????? thread. Merch Industrial is part of Goonswarm, so naturally the information and discussion will tend that way, but honestly I'm always curious what the fuck is going on up north, in the drone regions, or in Providence and Catch because I never hear about them anymore. So if you're from there, fill us in, and I'll try to keep the OP updated.
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Who am I kidding, just don't poke any eyes out with your dicks.
DUDE, YOU NEVER HAVE THEM TOUCH!
So, what's the easiest way to get faction S ammo out to 0.0? Just pay someone who is jumping their own stuff?
That's just the inaccessible dev-playground area. Sov used to be under the "Tanis Alliance" name, but I'm guessing they changed it so they wouldn't have to lock the weekly eve-o thread where someone gets shocked/appalled that discontiguous space has been taken by some alliance they've never heard of.
It actually is a dev alliance in a region of space that can't be normally reached. They use it for testing stuff, supposedly.
Hurray for Jove Space \o/
No, the test server is for people who have some small clue about how the game works, ie a small part of the playerbase.
e; I also just saw a pubbie who's been in the Minmatar training corp for 5 years, wtf?
if you are in goonswarm, the correct answer is interbee. Otherwise find a friendly JF, Rorq or blockade runner pilot that does importation.
more like a standard day in EVE.
Reading Mittani's stuff always makes me really interested in the whole spy meta-game of eve. Even knowing that 90% of it is dull as hell, it sounds like the other 10% is awesome enough to be worth it.
Unfortunately from what I can tell it seems like effective spying requires two active accounts, which is more than I can afford to maintain as an unemployed college student.
Still, a man can dream.
Horrible, horrible dreams of doing terrible things to innocent people for fun and profit.
After all, EVE IS politics, that's a significant portion of the fun.
It was the shacknews article that came out a few years ago about the Mittani that got me interested in Eve. I did a lot of spying in the faction war, but that doesn't really count since there is no way to kick people from the NPC militia corp. As a result, there are a lot of spies. It was a lot of fun listening to the enemy's vent and guiding our own fleet into the perfect position to ambush them. My favorite moment was during a pos attack, when a mixed corp fleet was hiding within the shields. They posted the shield password in the fleet chat, and I used my main account to post it in local. They frantically changed it, forgetting that it would eject most of the fleet from the shields. The result was about 75 kills to 5 losses, it was total carnage.
The politics of it is so interesting, though.
I have wondered how honest Mittani is in those columns, though. Fun as they are to read, it seems like publishing detailed explanations of your espionage tactics and how they might be countered would be poor strategy.
Like the Empire sending out a memo saying "Our ONE WEAKNESS is the thermal exhaust port; if anyone were smart enough to shoot at that, we'd be fucked. Tune in next week for our column "How To Kill A Star Destroyer: The Bridge Is Right Up Front, All Vulnerable And Exposed"'
That is awesome. I didn't even know that woudl happen - I would have jsut told our guys the PW :P
Agreed. Reading about this stuff makes me want to fire up my old account again and venture out further from High-Sec space.
I'm training amarr bs V right now
you should amarr currently is the king of the following:
Even if I'm still in corp my stuff's mostly stuck in the old Goon stations though.
XLive: Oronis
Setting a long skill on training and unsubscribing. It kept training while unsubscribed.
We were attacking the POS at the time, so we had to keep the DPS on the tower. Also, since you can't attack another ship while inside the shields all we could have hoped to do was bump them out. By sharing the password in local we forced them to leave the shield and also made them distrustful of their own fleet.
Vent:
Fleet Member: "What noob just posted our password in local?"
FC: "Whoever just posted that is being kickbanned from all Caldari fleets!"
Another Fleet Member: "Er, it was a Gallente."
FC: "What?!"
I've seen disco traps (all stabs and smartbombs), but they usually hang out near stations. I guess if they knew the direction the ships were coming from and put themselves far enough away to activate the smartbombs it might work.
http://killboard.eve-ivy.com/?a=lossesmonthly&m=04&y=2009
April 4.
Note that the Hyperion qvq lost that day was worth many times over all those t1 frigs...
Funny, when I was Amarr people laughed at me and told me to use Caldari or Minmatar ships.
On another note, when I saw the updated exploration stuff, I almost resubbed. Until I realized that the only way to make any profit on it would be to bring a battleship as everything would be super-guarded anyway, so it was just fancy ratting.
I've love if you could make a profit without needing heavy firepower through exploration. Not a LOT of profit, but enough to break even would be neat.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
For future reference, you can click on "related kills" on a mail page to link to a "battle summary" which will show all of the ships involved in an engagement.
Oooft, seeing the list of everyone involved there, I'd say those qvq guys did bloody good taking down that many frigates.
Did anyone get podded?
Thing that scares me most about PvP is 20 mil isk of implants >_>