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[Diplomacy] Eastasia: 1911

visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron NerdRegistered User regular
edited December 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Much of this stolen blatantly from JustPlainPavek's OP in CF!

Diplomacy!


Please read all of this post if you would like to play. Diplomacy is a strategy game for seven players and a gamemaster. It is sometimes compared to Risk but has key differences — all players move simultaneously, only one unit can occupy a territory at once, no dice are rolled, and defenders always win ties. The conduct of back-channel negotiations, alliances, and the dreaded backstab are key elements of the game.

A good introduction to the rules of the game is here; if you read nothing else, read this. Prosthetic Conscience has also run two games on the forums already which you might want to read through. Hasbro's official rules are here (pdf) and there is also Wikipedia. See also the Diplomacy Archive FAQ.

Added: Rules clarification about coastal movement.

The Diplomacy Archive and the Diplomatic Pouch have a wealth of articles from the long history of the hobby. I highly recommend reading through them, not only to get some ideas for strategy for yourself but also to be aware of what your opponents might be up to!

Schedule

Each year will take a week.

Sunday: Game begins
Monday: Talktalktalk
Tuesday: Spring ends, orders resolved
Wednesday: Retreats resolved
Thursday: Talktalktalk
Friday: Fall ends, orders resolved
Saturday: Retreats resolved
Sunday: Build orders

Order must be sent in by 9pm PDT/10pm MDT/11pm CDT/Midnight EDT. This means that all Spring orders must be sent in by Tuesday at 9, all Spring retreat orders must be sent in by Wednesday at 9, Fall orders must be in by Friday at 9, Fall retreat orders must be in by Saturday at 9, and Build orders must be in by Sunday at 9. For the purposes of this thread, anytime you see a time not defined by PDT/EDT/etc, I am talking about PDT, because that's where I live.

This may not end up being an ironclad schedule, depending on the need for retreats and builds, but I will always post reminders in the thread and will do my best to keep seasons falling on the same days of the week, despite the odd number of days. Whenever possible I will post maps displaying the orders and their resolution later the same night; if this is for some reason not possible, I will endeavor to let you know. Players should probably be aware that the game will likely run for at least a month, and can potentially last much longer.

Sending Orders

I won't repeat all the rules of the game here — the links listed above do a far more thorough job than I could — but if anything is at any time unclear on how orders work please post a question in bold orange or (if you don't wish to be publicly identified as the questioner) PM me. It is highly highly recommended that you familiarize yourself with the complete rules of the game before play begins — particularly how bounces and supports work, since these tend to cause the most confusion. My Diplomacy experience is not massive so I will appreciate any polite corrections and your patience in the event of an error on my part.

All orders should be sent to me, visiblehowl, via PM on this forum, with the subject line "[Game] [Country] Orders [Season] [Year]" (i.e. Eurasia Italy Orders Spring 1901). You may send your orders in either complete or abbreviated form:

Complete:
Army Munich moves to Burgundy
Army Ruhr supports Army Munich's move to Burgundy
Fleet North Sea convoys Army Denmark to Belgium
Army Denmark moves to Belgium through Fleet North Sea's convoy
Army Sweden holds

Abbreviated:
A Mun moves to Bur
A Ruh supports A Mun to Bur
F Nth convoys A Den to Bel
A Den moves to Bel via F Nth convoy
A Swe holds

The abbreviated form is, with a few exceptions (which are noted on the map below) the first three letters of the province name.

I will be lenient as to incorrect order writing, within reason. If it's obvious what you meant, I'll do it that way. However, if you don't specify a coast when moving to a region with two coasts, or there are two territories you could move to with slightly different names and you put one instead of the other, tough luck. (You will want to take particular note in specifying the coasts of St. Petersburg, Spain and Bulgaria when moving fleets through them.) "Forgetting" to write correct orders may sometimes work as a strategy, but it may make your allies suspicious.

You may send as many sets of orders as you like up until the deadline. I actually recommend you send a placeholder set of orders first thing in the new season, just in case you aren't able to get back to the game before the next deadline. However, please note that I will delete all but the last set of orders sent without reading any of the previous ones. Thus, if you decide you want to make changes to a previous order, you must write your full set of orders in a new message if you wish for them to all take effect. If you fail to specify an order for a unit, it will Hold by default. Late orders will not be accepted.

If you fail to send any orders for two consecutive turns, your country will undergo bloody revolution and a new ruler will take your place from the reserve list. The game can be time-consuming and we all have lives outside this, but if you feel you cannot continue to play, don't leave your allies hanging and don't screw over the person who will be taking your place; turn your position over to one of the reserves before you start missing turns. In the event that all players cannot make a deadline (for a holiday, for example) we can announce a temporary postponement.

Communications

This game is not called Diplomacy for nothing — most games involve a large amount of discussion behind the scenes. There are three principal modes of communication in the game (not counting the sending of orders to the GM detailed above):
  • Person-to-Person PMs — You are welcome to PM (or IM, or e-mail) other players as much or as little as you like during the game. You may "cc" or "bcc" more than one participant in your message, however "ccing" your Orders to anyone other than the GM is forbidden. This is strictly to preserve an element of uncertainty in the game, and you are welcome to write other players separate messages describing what your orders were (or what you claim them to be). Similarly, using screenshots / image captures of other players' messages is forbidden, but forwarding a message to another player is allowed, since the text can conceivably be altered prior to sending.

    You do not need to cc the GM on regular PMs between each other. If, however, you receive a message which violates these rules, it is your responsibility as a player to report it immediately — this is the only instance in which the use of screenshots (to document the offense) is acceptable. Players who violate these rules risk losing their position in the game to a replacement ruler.

  • Posting to the Game Thread — Players are welcome to post as much or as little on the public game thread as they like. Just remember that orders are sent to the GM, not posted here. It's probably not a good idea to call out your enemies in public, but then again maybe it's all a ruse to confuse your real enemy?

All countries filled! Still taking reserves!

Signup requirements are below the spoiler. Please do this even if you're playing as a reserve.
Signing Up

I'm sort of expecting a fair number of people to sign up for this, so since there are only seven slots, I'm going to go by some better criteria than "who happens to be online when signups go up".

When you signup, please PM me the following information. PM, not a public post.

1. The % chance you'll be able to see the whole game through. What are the chances that you'll be able to keep playing this game for up to three months? Three months is probably too long to expect this game to last, but it could happen, so let me know what your availability is. If you think it's 90% likely you'll be able to play for 2 months, but only 60% likely you'll be able to play in the third month, feel free to say that.
2. How much you want to play, on a scale of 1-10. Please be honest with this; I don't want to see a bunch of tens just because people think that's the only way they'll be able to play. I'm expecting mostly scores between 7 and 9.
3. How many games (approximately) you've played before. Preference will be given to people who have played before, subject to the above criteria.

These are in order of importance. I'd rather have 7 newbies who only kind of want to play but will commit to the full time than 7 veterans who desperately want to play but will drop out within a few weeks. It probably won't come down to me choosing between newbies and veterans, but if I'm choosing between two people who have similar answers to 1 and 2, preference will go to the veterans since that tends to make the game more fun for other veterans.

All of these criteria are subject to change on my whim. Please remember not to post your answers publically, but send them to me via PM.

Games:

We have two games playing simultaneously: Eurasia and Eastasia. These are just names, there's nothing actually different between the two games. This is the Eastasia thread. The players and their countries are below:

Cauld - England
durax - Austria
[strike]hesthefastest - Russia[/strike]
James - Italy
[strike]Jason Todd- France[/strike]
[strike]JPants - Turkey[/strike]
[strike]Professor Phobos - Germany[/strike] - dropped out, not replaced


Reserves

amateurhour
Casual Eddy
Ethan Smith
thorgot

Current Map:
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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Game has started. Players may begin diplomacizing. First orders are due 9:00 PDT/12:00 EDT on Tuesday night

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Also, it's not necessary, but if you could cc me in your PMs back and forth to each other, that would be cool. I like to see the dynamics between the players. :P

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  • Jason ToddJason Todd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    NEW AVATAR

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I forgot something about orders. Please include the game you are playing (Eurasia or Eastasia) in your subject line when sending in orders. I've updated the OP.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I can't read some of the stuff on that map. I'll have to find another one for reference.

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  • Jason ToddJason Todd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yea, Russia being white is screwing with my eyes

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  • JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    oh man, i didn't even see that. That's gnarly. I was wondering why russia seemed all wide open.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    You know, Eurasia isn't whining about this...

    Clearly I should be going to war with Eastasia instead of Eurasia.

    Inform the populace!

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  • Jason ToddJason Todd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    WE WERE ALWAYS AT WAR WITH EASTASIA

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Well, Richard Sharpe says to always communicate with every other player- even ones with no conceivable cause for cooperation or war at the start- just to get the lines of communication open. So, while I won't make claims towards being trustworthy (as you have no reason to believe me) I will say this about how I play- I hold no grudges. You can viciously backstab me one turn and if on the next it benefits me to ally with you, I'll do so, and gladly. I treat the game as a set of rational, unemotional business transactions.

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, and I like to play fair...no backstabbings or anything.

    We Austrians are known to be trustworthy and kind, right? No Austrian has ever really caused any problems in the world, I believe. Why, we are one of the most peaceful countries in the world.

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  • Kayne Red RobeKayne Red Robe Master of Magic ArcanusRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Technically, in 1901 you are still the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
    [/history grognard]

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    History?

    THIS! IS! DIPLOMACY!

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  • JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    By the way, if anyone wants to get a hold of me, the best way is probably vial gmail (email or chat, both work). My name on there is the same as on here.

    I'm in several phallas in CF so my inbox is often near full, that's why i say email or chat is probably better. Not that I won't respond to PM's...

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  • hesthefastesthesthefastest Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    In the interest of clarity, can visiblehowl post exactly how many hours are left before orders are due in?

    timezones make my brain hurt.

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    8 hours from now.

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Our game is cooler than your game.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    This is so exciting...

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yes. Very exciting.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    James was correct.

    About 3 1/2 hours from now.

    Chances are low that I will actually be here when the orders deadline passes. However, I'll resolve orders and everything when I get back.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Results

    Movement Map:
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    Resolution:
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    Orders:
    General Notices:

    No retreating units; retreat phase skipped.

    Order Results:

    Austria:

    A bud Holds
    F tri Holds
    A vie Holds

    England:

    F edi -> nwg
    A lvp -> yor
    F lon -> nth

    France:

    F bre -> pic
    A mar-> spa
    A par -> bur

    Germany:

    A ber -> kie
    F kie -> den
    A mun -> ruh

    Italy:

    F nap -> ion
    A rom -> ven
    A ven -> pie

    Russia:

    A mos -> ukr
    F sev -> rum
    F stp/sc -> bot
    A war Holds

    Turkey:

    F ank -> arm
    A con -> bul
    A smy -> con

    GM's Notes:
    • I've only just noticed how much work this is. Putting the orders into jDip is the easy part; getting them out in a format that isn't retarded is much more time consuming. What have I gotten myself into? As such, I ask for extra patience from you each night, because even if I'm around, it takes forever to form this into an actual post.
    • Some people didn't have the correct form in the subject of their PMs. This is very important, as it differentiates you from all the other PMs I get and lets me know where I can find your orders. Please send all of your orders PMs in the following format:
      [Game] [Country] Orders [Season] [Year]. For example: Eastasia Austria Orders Spring 1901
    • Um, after having my inbox flooded with forwarded and CCed PMs regarding strategy and whatnot, I'm afraid I must retract my earlier statement regarding those PMs. Please do not send me PMs that are not orders, unless you have a clarification or you find something that you did particularly amusing. You can also find me on AIM at visiblehowl, so if you want to chat with me about what's going on in the game, feel free to do so there. I promise not to reveal anything about anybody's plans.
    • Since there are no units requiring retreats or disbandments, go ahead and start planning for your Fall orders, which are due on Friday night at 9:00 PDT. As I post this, it is approximately 11:15 PDT, so make the necessary adjustments for time zone as you need to.
    • LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE HAVE OUR FIRST "ORDERS WASTREL"! In the first round of play, no less. DarkCrawler (Austria) failed to turn in any orders (at least that I can see). Be sure to ridicule him appropriately.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Hmm. We could all download jDip and get on a mailing list- you just input the orders and send out the updated file. That way all you have to do is post the two maps for the people following the thread.

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  • MrMisterMrMister A pup must first get in the water to be successful as a seal!Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Balkans are crazy in both these games.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MrMister wrote: »
    The Balkans are crazy in both these games.

    Yeah, though I don't know how much of that is due to Austria not taking their turn.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    MrMister wrote: »
    The Balkans are crazy in both these games.

    Yeah, though I don't know how much of that is due to Austria not taking their turn.

    I think if Austria had taken their turn it would be even crazier.

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  • TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    That is the stupidest Austria.

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  • Jason ToddJason Todd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I find myself incapable of complaining about Austria's actions

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  • hesthefastesthesthefastest Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    England and France have some serious trust going on.

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  • MrMisterMrMister A pup must first get in the water to be successful as a seal!Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The peanut gallery is noticing that the "current map" in the OP isn't current.

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  • DarkCrawlerDarkCrawler Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, so just everybody knows, I left this thing due to my timezone (obviously) causing me some problems and other things that take my time at the moment. Hopefully the next Austria lives at the same side of planet as the rest of you. :p

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    DarkCrawler will be replaced at Austria by durax.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Peanut gallery should shut up.
    I'll change it.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I know they probably wont be posted for a while, but I want results!

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cauld wrote: »
    I know they probably wont be posted for a while, but I want results!

    I know, the tension!

    EDIT: Wait, when is the deadline? Isn't it not for another half-hour?

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  • JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Cauld wrote: »
    I know they probably wont be posted for a while, but I want results!

    I know, the tension!

    EDIT: Wait, when is the deadline? Isn't it not for another half-hour?

    24 minutes.

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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    James wrote: »
    Cauld wrote: »
    I know they probably wont be posted for a while, but I want results!

    I know, the tension!

    EDIT: Wait, when is the deadline? Isn't it not for another half-hour?

    24 minutes.

    Oh, right. In that case I hope everyone remembers to get their orders in.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Just got home.

    Results will go up shortly. I'm going to go ahead and post just the maps, and see if anybody is unhappy about me not posting the exact orders.

    I might also list "Events" which will indicate bounces, captures, and retreats. We'll see.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    That's fine. There's no reason you have to do any more work than that. Though you could post the map screen with all the arrows and then the final map, because the first map will show all the orders.

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  • visiblehowlvisiblehowl He/Him Neutron Nerd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    That's the plan.

    The images are easy; I just export them, host them on photobucket, and post them.

    Reformatting the order lists from jDip's shitty system is the real pain.

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  • Professor PhobosProfessor Phobos Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    That's the plan.

    The images are easy; I just export them, host them on photobucket, and post them.

    Sweet.
    Reformatting the order lists from jDip's shitty system is the real pain.

    Then don't bother. Once we get further into the game you'll have to do that for even larger numbers of orders. It'll only get more painful.

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