I never finished it, but it's an MMO? So what about the other Star Ocean games? They take place in the same universe don't they? So they were an MMO too? Fucking fucking fucking stupid.
and the most hilarious part? they never go anywhere with it
yeah they try to pull off some lameassed pseudo-descartian twist as the end with it but the plot would have functioned fine without
the kid who drops the plot bombshell even says the characters aren't directly controlled in the MMO, and then in his encyclopedia entry it says the same kid controls a renowned starship pilot in the MMO
I did get Tales of Vesperia in addition to Star Ocean 4, so that'll be good at least...?
I liked Symphonia...
VESPERIA IS RAAAAAD
okay that might be laying it on a little thick, but it probably was the best JRPG i played last year
most likable cast i've seen outside of the persona games
Persona... Now there's a series I need to play. Never actually got around to them, but a friend of mine has all of them and I want to borrow them sometime.
Dragon Age, too. I got some gift certificates for christmas that I plan on spending on Dragon Age. Although I'm gonna wait until I beat everything else first.
By the time you finish everything else, ME2 will be out and that will probably be better than Dragon Age.
I mean I do recommend picking up DA sooner or later regardless.
Is Persona out for the PSP now? I think I heard that. But I guess I also heard that Persona 1 is real clunky and really only useful for nostalgia purposes.
eh the whole game is kind of clunky. it is not nearly as well-polished as other bioware products. I don't really know why. I still found it worthwhile though and played through it 2.5 times.
I thought the graphics and presentation were kind of clunky and old-fashioned but, I dunno. I felt like it made up for a lot of things with raw content. Like, I love Mass Effect, and it is a way slicker game, but when you've been through it a couple times it's hard not to notice the ways in which the game is held together with spit and baling wire, like how the in-game universe is kind of distended by the practical limitations of only having one model for every alien race. Dragon Age seemed to have a lot more of that sort of meat.
But but Dragon Age was just so clunky and ugly. Like the sweet love scenes were so awkward and embarrassing I just wanted to crawl under my couch. And having multiple models for the non-human characters is only a benefit if they are actually good models.
But yeah I went through ME 3.5 times and you do eventually start to notice, especially in those side missions, that the same building gets recycled and all of that.
I noticed that the same building gets recycled the first time through, though I think I had the misfortune of doing the sidequests that used the same building right after one another.
There are bits and pieces I like better in Mass Effect and Dragon Age and right now its really hard to choose one over the other. Though I agree the sex scenes seem clunky in dragon age while I didnt really notice that in Mass Effect.
If anything I really like how Dragon Age "feels" really big and open even though it is quite linear.
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Will, The Last Remnant was pretty crappy at parts, but not even close to the worst JRPG.
Man those opening sequences had such an otaku nerd-funk I just couldn't move forward. Plus the combat sequences were a whole lot like not actually playing a game.
Also I think I lied about not finishing any JRPGs besides FF7 and Chrono Cross. I am pretty sure I beat both Golden Sun games on the GBA.
How was the second one? I loved the first one but I think I stopped playing rpgs and didnt really feel like playing it when it came out.
I remember liking it. IIRC it had an upgrade to the class-selection system of the first game, like your little mans could equip any combination of four sprites and each unique combination would yield a distinct class. I thought that was neat. The story was probably just the same kind of japanese garbage that all JRPGs have, but it was relatively new to me at the time, so it didn't disgust me.
I did get Tales of Vesperia in addition to Star Ocean 4, so that'll be good at least...?
I liked Symphonia...
VESPERIA IS RAAAAAD
okay that might be laying it on a little thick, but it probably was the best JRPG i played last year
most likable cast i've seen outside of the persona games
Persona... Now there's a series I need to play. Never actually got around to them, but a friend of mine has all of them and I want to borrow them sometime.
Dragon Age, too. I got some gift certificates for christmas that I plan on spending on Dragon Age. Although I'm gonna wait until I beat everything else first.
By the time you finish everything else, ME2 will be out and that will probably be better than Dragon Age.
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ME2 will probably be on Microsoft's Expertzone for cheap. I got ME for $9 the month it came out. Because Microsoft is awesome like that.
Will, The Last Remnant was pretty crappy at parts, but not even close to the worst JRPG.
Man those opening sequences had such an otaku nerd-funk I just couldn't move forward. Plus the combat sequences were a whole lot like not actually playing a game.
I have forgotten the opening sequences, but they didn't leave a lasting impression of bad.
I do agree about the combat. That was my biggest gripe. Actually it would have been an awesome system if they just let you choose each character's action specifically, but yeah not really being able to tell your people what to do sucked.
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eh the whole game is kind of clunky. it is not nearly as well-polished as other bioware products. I don't really know why. I still found it worthwhile though and played through it 2.5 times.
I thought the graphics and presentation were kind of clunky and old-fashioned but, I dunno. I felt like it made up for a lot of things with raw content. Like, I love Mass Effect, and it is a way slicker game, but when you've been through it a couple times it's hard not to notice the ways in which the game is held together with spit and baling wire, like how the in-game universe is kind of distended by the practical limitations of only having one model for every alien race. Dragon Age seemed to have a lot more of that sort of meat.
But but Dragon Age was just so clunky and ugly. Like the sweet love scenes were so awkward and embarrassing I just wanted to crawl under my couch. And having multiple models for the non-human characters is only a benefit if they are actually good models.
But yeah I went through ME 3.5 times and you do eventually start to notice, especially in those side missions, that the same building gets recycled and all of that.
I'm not saying DA wasn't clunky; I think it was blatantly clunkier than Mass Effect in a lot of ways. It was ugly and the animations were often awkward and so forth. But on the other hand, there was a bigger variety of places and stuff, and they felt more organic to me. Denerim's market felt like a genuinely busy place, by contrast with the Wards which mostly felt like hallways. And I liked how you'd go into someone's room and they'd have furniture and personal effects instead of blank concrete walls.
I get the feeling that ME was really kind of a low-budget game compared to your Halos or GTAs or whatever, but they just polished the shit out of what they had. I'm hoping that its success means that the sequel got more resources, more art assets, all that good stuff so we can get the best of both worlds, the quality presentation and the meaty content.
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I don't really know why or when I turned so against japanese popular culture. I remember thinking it was kind of neat at one point. Now it just revolts me to a degree that kind of surprises me.
Maybe I am not the best candidate for "dude who spends a lot of time moderating a message board dedicated to video games and lousy with kids who fuckin lurve them some japan"
I don't really know why or when I turned so against japanese popular culture. I remember thinking it was kind of neat at one point. Now it just revolts me to a degree that kind of surprises me.
Maybe I am not the best candidate for "dude who spends a lot of time moderating a message board dedicated to video games and lousy with kids who fuckin lurve them some japan"
Yeah I just rewatched the opening sequence to The Last Remnant, and it was actually pretty cool. Definitely not very weeaboo at all for a JRPG. Like, one of the least weeaboo JRPG intros I've seen in a long while.
eh the whole game is kind of clunky. it is not nearly as well-polished as other bioware products. I don't really know why. I still found it worthwhile though and played through it 2.5 times.
I thought the graphics and presentation were kind of clunky and old-fashioned but, I dunno. I felt like it made up for a lot of things with raw content. Like, I love Mass Effect, and it is a way slicker game, but when you've been through it a couple times it's hard not to notice the ways in which the game is held together with spit and baling wire, like how the in-game universe is kind of distended by the practical limitations of only having one model for every alien race. Dragon Age seemed to have a lot more of that sort of meat.
But but Dragon Age was just so clunky and ugly. Like the sweet love scenes were so awkward and embarrassing I just wanted to crawl under my couch. And having multiple models for the non-human characters is only a benefit if they are actually good models.
But yeah I went through ME 3.5 times and you do eventually start to notice, especially in those side missions, that the same building gets recycled and all of that.
I'm not saying DA wasn't clunky; I think it was blatantly clunkier than Mass Effect in a lot of ways. It was ugly and the animations were often awkward and so forth. But on the other hand, there was a bigger variety of places and stuff, and they felt more organic to me. Denerim's market felt like a genuinely busy place, by contrast with the Wards which mostly felt like hallways. And I liked how you'd go into someone's room and they'd have furniture and personal effects instead of blank concrete walls.
I get the feeling that ME was really kind of a low-budget game compared to your Halos or GTAs or whatever, but they just polished the shit out of what they had. I'm hoping that its success means that the sequel got more resources, more art assets, all that good stuff so we can get the best of both worlds, the quality presentation and the meaty content.
My understanding is that DA was kind of kicking around the halls of BioWare for like fucking ages, and was originally supposed to come out last generation, and what we got was the result of some executive just setting a deadline and telling the devs to pull the fucking trigger already. To their credit it does feel like a complete game in terms of the story and the options and the characters and voicework and production and all of that. It's just that the graphics look (are) last-gen and the menu interface is really clunky and half-baked. They also needed a little more time in the oven to balance the console difficulty I think.
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I don't really know why or when I turned so against japanese popular culture. I remember thinking it was kind of neat at one point. Now it just revolts me to a degree that kind of surprises me.
Maybe I am not the best candidate for "dude who spends a lot of time moderating a message board dedicated to video games and lousy with kids who fuckin lurve them some japan"
Yeah I just rewatched the opening sequence to The Last Remnant, and it was actually pretty cool. Definitely not very weeaboo at all for a JRPG. Like, one of the least weeaboo JRPG intros I've seen in a long while.
With like the impudent kid all inadvertantly mouthing off to the prince of the realm and that dumb 4-armed cat thing and the little floppy-eared wizard race and all of that? God I did not like that.
No sir I did not.
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I don't really know why or when I turned so against japanese popular culture. I remember thinking it was kind of neat at one point. Now it just revolts me to a degree that kind of surprises me.
Maybe I am not the best candidate for "dude who spends a lot of time moderating a message board dedicated to video games and lousy with kids who fuckin lurve them some japan"
I think what I hate about it is the way it seems like tailor-made for the worst sort of nerdy obsessives and high-functioning autistics.
Like, okay, Bayonetta. Someone in the thread called her a "meganekko", which I looked up and it apparently means a girl in anime who wears glasses and is typified by the bossy class president in a high school comedy type story.
Their pop culture is so geared towards the precise and unvarying reiteration of a set of cliches that even the most minute aspects come with specialized jargon to describe them. And nerds eat that shit up. They love it. It makes them feel connected to have some arcane word to describe a phenomena that only occurs in a certain subset of children's tv shows.
But if you're on the outside it turns into a nightmare of jargon that is utterly divorced from anything in reality. At least something like the Star Trek thread right now they're discussing which version of the ship is better looking. That might be nerdy but it strikes me as a healthier kind of nerdy.
Final Fantasy 1
Dragon Warrior 1
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star 2
Phantasy Star 3 (this one several times, best music of the 16 bit era)
Phantasy Star 4
Chrono Trigger
A bunch of marginally jrpgish games like Shining Force 1-2, Shining in the Darkness, SoulBlazer, Illusion of Gaia, Ogre Battle
I don't really know why or when I turned so against japanese popular culture. I remember thinking it was kind of neat at one point. Now it just revolts me to a degree that kind of surprises me.
Maybe I am not the best candidate for "dude who spends a lot of time moderating a message board dedicated to video games and lousy with kids who fuckin lurve them some japan"
I think what I hate about it is the way it seems like tailor-made for the worst sort of nerdy obsessives and high-functioning autistics.
Like, okay, Bayonetta. Someone in the thread called her a "meganekko", which I looked up and it apparently means a girl in anime who wears glasses and is typified by the bossy class president in a high school comedy type story.
Their pop culture is so geared towards the precise and unvarying reiteration of a set of cliches that even the most minute aspects come with specialized jargon to describe them. And nerds eat that shit up. They love it. It makes them feel connected to have some arcane word to describe a phenomena that only occurs in a certain subset of children's tv shows.
But if you're on the outside it turns into a nightmare of jargon that is utterly divorced from anything in reality. At least something like the Star Trek thread right now they're discussing which version of the ship is better looking. That might be nerdy but it strikes me as a healthier kind of nerdy.
i remember when my brother tried to watch the bleach movie and shut it off after a couple of minutes because, even though it was dubbed, it sounded like they were speaking a foreign language
that's not exactly what you're talking about but it's still funny
it seems that only the worst anime and japanese stuff is really badly riddled with those weirdo pervert cliches, though
stuff like cowboy bebop and baccano lacks them entirely
Ooh shit I definitely finished the single-player of PSO and PSU if those count. I am wicked kawaii.
Seeing as any game after 4 claiming to be called Phantasy Star does not, in fact, exist (at least in a fair and just world) they cannot therefore count for anything.
it seems that only the worst anime and japanese stuff is really badly riddled with those weirdo pervert cliches, though
stuff like cowboy bebop and baccano lacks them entirely
It's not the sexual thing, though.
It's everything. Like, a completely non-sexual anime about a happy kitten's adventures in the big city will have all this specialized terminology used to describe it. The kitten's sidekick will be a bookuwan, obviously, and the mean apartment super who chases the kitten out of the warm lobby into the rain is a total gichako. OLOL!!!1!!!
It's everything. Like, a completely non-sexual anime about a happy kitten's adventures in the big city will have all this specialized terminology used to describe it. The kitten's sidekick will be a bookuwan, obviously, and the mean apartment super who chases the kitten out of the warm lobby into the rain is a total gichako. OLOL!!!1!!!
The only difference here is that manga fans know the terminology for manga and you do not know the terminology for Western literature.
Jakob: That is called an archetype. They are nothing new.
No, it's not. An archetype is broad. When you have words whose meaning is so attenuated that they describe a character's gender, sexuality, mode of dress, personality, age, job, and the type of sub-sub-subgenre they occur most frequently in, that is pretty much the opposite of archetypal.
Jakob: That is called an archetype. They are nothing new.
No, it's not. An archetype is broad. When you have words whose meaning is so attenuated that they describe a character's gender, sexuality, mode of dress, personality, age, job, and the type of sub-sub-subgenre they occur most frequently in, that is pretty much the opposite of archetypal.
Darmok and Gilad, at Tanagra.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
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and the most hilarious part? they never go anywhere with it
yeah they try to pull off some lameassed pseudo-descartian twist as the end with it but the plot would have functioned fine without
the kid who drops the plot bombshell even says the characters aren't directly controlled in the MMO, and then in his encyclopedia entry it says the same kid controls a renowned starship pilot in the MMO
By the time you finish everything else, ME2 will be out and that will probably be better than Dragon Age.
I mean I do recommend picking up DA sooner or later regardless.
Is Persona out for the PSP now? I think I heard that. But I guess I also heard that Persona 1 is real clunky and really only useful for nostalgia purposes.
I noticed that the same building gets recycled the first time through, though I think I had the misfortune of doing the sidequests that used the same building right after one another.
There are bits and pieces I like better in Mass Effect and Dragon Age and right now its really hard to choose one over the other. Though I agree the sex scenes seem clunky in dragon age while I didnt really notice that in Mass Effect.
If anything I really like how Dragon Age "feels" really big and open even though it is quite linear.
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Man those opening sequences had such an otaku nerd-funk I just couldn't move forward. Plus the combat sequences were a whole lot like not actually playing a game.
How was the second one? I loved the first one but I think I stopped playing rpgs and didnt really feel like playing it when it came out.
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"my entire moral code is taken from bad anime"
paraphrased, of course
i just dislike that guy
EVER.
I remember liking it. IIRC it had an upgrade to the class-selection system of the first game, like your little mans could equip any combination of four sprites and each unique combination would yield a distinct class. I thought that was neat. The story was probably just the same kind of japanese garbage that all JRPGs have, but it was relatively new to me at the time, so it didn't disgust me.
ME2 will probably be on Microsoft's Expertzone for cheap. I got ME for $9 the month it came out. Because Microsoft is awesome like that.
I have forgotten the opening sequences, but they didn't leave a lasting impression of bad.
I do agree about the combat. That was my biggest gripe. Actually it would have been an awesome system if they just let you choose each character's action specifically, but yeah not really being able to tell your people what to do sucked.
I'm not saying DA wasn't clunky; I think it was blatantly clunkier than Mass Effect in a lot of ways. It was ugly and the animations were often awkward and so forth. But on the other hand, there was a bigger variety of places and stuff, and they felt more organic to me. Denerim's market felt like a genuinely busy place, by contrast with the Wards which mostly felt like hallways. And I liked how you'd go into someone's room and they'd have furniture and personal effects instead of blank concrete walls.
I get the feeling that ME was really kind of a low-budget game compared to your Halos or GTAs or whatever, but they just polished the shit out of what they had. I'm hoping that its success means that the sequel got more resources, more art assets, all that good stuff so we can get the best of both worlds, the quality presentation and the meaty content.
Maybe I am not the best candidate for "dude who spends a lot of time moderating a message board dedicated to video games and lousy with kids who fuckin lurve them some japan"
I went to this art collector's house where in his office he had one of the very first electric chairs.
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Yeah I just rewatched the opening sequence to The Last Remnant, and it was actually pretty cool. Definitely not very weeaboo at all for a JRPG. Like, one of the least weeaboo JRPG intros I've seen in a long while.
The why: you're smart.
My understanding is that DA was kind of kicking around the halls of BioWare for like fucking ages, and was originally supposed to come out last generation, and what we got was the result of some executive just setting a deadline and telling the devs to pull the fucking trigger already. To their credit it does feel like a complete game in terms of the story and the options and the characters and voicework and production and all of that. It's just that the graphics look (are) last-gen and the menu interface is really clunky and half-baked. They also needed a little more time in the oven to balance the console difficulty I think.
With like the impudent kid all inadvertantly mouthing off to the prince of the realm and that dumb 4-armed cat thing and the little floppy-eared wizard race and all of that? God I did not like that.
No sir I did not.
They were I think invented by Edison's company to show the world the dangers of the alternating current, since Nicola Tesla had the patent to AC.
The first electrocution failed on the first iteration to kill the guy, took eight minutes in total and eventually caught the dude on fire.
I think what I hate about it is the way it seems like tailor-made for the worst sort of nerdy obsessives and high-functioning autistics.
Like, okay, Bayonetta. Someone in the thread called her a "meganekko", which I looked up and it apparently means a girl in anime who wears glasses and is typified by the bossy class president in a high school comedy type story.
Their pop culture is so geared towards the precise and unvarying reiteration of a set of cliches that even the most minute aspects come with specialized jargon to describe them. And nerds eat that shit up. They love it. It makes them feel connected to have some arcane word to describe a phenomena that only occurs in a certain subset of children's tv shows.
But if you're on the outside it turns into a nightmare of jargon that is utterly divorced from anything in reality. At least something like the Star Trek thread right now they're discussing which version of the ship is better looking. That might be nerdy but it strikes me as a healthier kind of nerdy.
Final Fantasy 1
Dragon Warrior 1
Phantasy Star
Phantasy Star 2
Phantasy Star 3 (this one several times, best music of the 16 bit era)
Phantasy Star 4
Chrono Trigger
A bunch of marginally jrpgish games like Shining Force 1-2, Shining in the Darkness, SoulBlazer, Illusion of Gaia, Ogre Battle
i remember when my brother tried to watch the bleach movie and shut it off after a couple of minutes because, even though it was dubbed, it sounded like they were speaking a foreign language
that's not exactly what you're talking about but it's still funny
it seems that only the worst anime and japanese stuff is really badly riddled with those weirdo pervert cliches, though
stuff like cowboy bebop and baccano lacks them entirely
To be fair only one of them is occupied with being transgendered
The other one is far too ugly to pull it off
Seeing as any game after 4 claiming to be called Phantasy Star does not, in fact, exist (at least in a fair and just world) they cannot therefore count for anything.
It's not the sexual thing, though.
It's everything. Like, a completely non-sexual anime about a happy kitten's adventures in the big city will have all this specialized terminology used to describe it. The kitten's sidekick will be a bookuwan, obviously, and the mean apartment super who chases the kitten out of the warm lobby into the rain is a total gichako. OLOL!!!1!!!
I don't know if anybody who was online then is online now, but I have a related question.
Is 34 words/minute, average, a good speed for somebody writing basic but original material every day?
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
The only difference here is that manga fans know the terminology for manga and you do not know the terminology for Western literature.
No, it's not. An archetype is broad. When you have words whose meaning is so attenuated that they describe a character's gender, sexuality, mode of dress, personality, age, job, and the type of sub-sub-subgenre they occur most frequently in, that is pretty much the opposite of archetypal.
Darmok and Gilad, at Tanagra.
Shaka, when the walls fell.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I have a bottle of champagne at F's house. I think I'm going to pop it open tomorrow for no good reason other than to celebrate Friday.
Edit: I'm just going to start using the first initial of her potential forum name should she ever decide to register.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.