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The Memorial Lawn Odor Thread -- Farewell Jack McCoy
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The original Law and Order was announced as canceled by NBC about a week back after 20 years. It's always been a guilty pleasure, although Sam Waterston is awesome, especially when selling Robot Insurance.
The Wall Street Journal published a really nice article on how L&O basically created a viable business for actors in New York and found ways to throw money at every single bit player that they signed on. The other spinoffs (Criminal Intent) are still going, so they'll hopefully keep what L&O started there supporting the NY acting scene going. However, at the same time, they're launching another L&O spinoff for Los Angeles, so maybe the NY actor's whatsit isn't doing so well.
Of course, there's also the very real chance that another network picks it up since I imagine it's still a cash cow. NBC is just... NBC right now, and not known for their intelligent decisions. What else is TNT going to show for 8 hours a day if they stop making new episodes?
So now let us talk about how dreamy Jack McCoy is and reflect on the show's death, all the things that he says that you should listen to (end of the clip), and who the hottest ADA was. Choosey people choose Claire.
The Wall Street Journal published a really nice article on how L&O basically created a viable business for actors in New York and found ways to throw money at every single bit player that they signed on. The other spinoffs (Criminal Intent) are still going, so they'll hopefully keep what L&O started there supporting the NY acting scene going. However, at the same time, they're launching another L&O spinoff for Los Angeles, so maybe the NY actor's whatsit isn't doing so well.
Of course, there's also the very real chance that another network picks it up since I imagine it's still a cash cow. NBC is just... NBC right now, and not known for their intelligent decisions. What else is TNT going to show for 8 hours a day if they stop making new episodes?
So now let us talk about how dreamy Jack McCoy is and reflect on the show's death, all the things that he says that you should listen to (end of the clip), and who the hottest ADA was. Choosey people choose Claire.
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SVU on the other hand... I'd watch Mariska Hargitay all night long.
Fontana was amusing at the start when they were playing up the "I'm batshit crazy" angle, but yeah. Ed was fine, but the rest of the cops have been awful. Lupo and Bernard's beard adventures were kind of funny in the pathetic way though.
It's too bad they couldn't give it one more season to let it beat Gunsmoke.
I liked Lupo though. Partly because he was Billy in Six Feet Under I guess.
Possibly the stupidest role-change was taking Jack McCoy out of the courtroom. Let Thompson sit behind a desk and brood, McCoy's at home in the courtroom. Making him district attorney was out of character.
I just hope SVU gets a bigger budget out of this.
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They had to take Thompson out because of his attempted presidential run. They could have just thrown another DA in there, but at this point in the series, that would have been a slap in the face to McCoy.
The others (SVU/Criminal Intent) seem like they stick almost exclusively to police work and end when an arrest is made. They hardly ever show the trial.
Yeah, all the spin-offs are pretty terrible because of this. SVU at least does some court stuff occasionally, but is ruined by having terrible characters. CI just has some stupid shit where they get the criminal to confess like every time.
They put it on Friday night which is practically a kiss of death from the network.
I think the Lenny/Ed/McCoy/Abbie/Schiff years were my favorite, but I did really like Foghorn Leghorn too. Abbie was just a lot more uppity and amusing than most of the other ADAs, even if she wasn't the hottest. So much less whiny than Serena too.
He didn't retire, he died.
Well he did retire from Law and Order. He moved on to Trial By Jury before he died.
Sucks that they're cancelling it, but the original really started to take a nosedive after Watherson got kicked to desk duty and they brought in that Lupo dude and those little ADA shits. I actually kinda' feel sorry for Watherson and whats-her-name who plays the Lieutenant, as the two of 'em've both been around since season five or so and were two of the players that really made the show interesting, only to watch their work swirl into the shitter later on.
Oh huh, I could have sworn he died while working on Law and Order: Original Flavor.
The loss of Lenny Briscoe was a horrible, horrible tragedy. Honestly, I'd have a hard time thinking of a fictional TV personality I'd grown more fond of.
I always assumed that Sam Waterston had grown tired of playing the role and wanted to play the less-visible role of DA. Nonetheless, it had to come to an end eventually, and I think that, while weakened, it was still a strong show in many regards.
And yea, Synthesis, Briscoe is just so great, you can't really replace him. Farina did ok, but couldn't fill the shoes. I won't lie, though, I almost wonder how well someone like Bruce Campbell could do the job...
And the show could vary wildly in quality, but at its best, Law & Order showd what the American criminal justice system was about, warts and all.
Interesting, perhaps....but it's still not Jerry Orbach. To be honest, it'd be someone totally different instead.
Then again, I'm not as huge a fan of Campbell, and I don't think his strengths play to that type of character.
And for hottest ADA I go with Connie, then Jill, then Abbie.
I was really thrown for a loop by that scene with Serena blurting out that she's a lesbian. I had my money on artificial robotic construct. She was so awfully wooden in every scene.
Would it have killed NBC to have given Wolfe his 21 season streak? Really? Renewing it for one last season to finally place it atop the legendary pedestal it deserves? People wonder why NBC is at last place....
It wasn't a great show, it was a show you could just sit down and watch. As much as I like the shows with heavy archs and show mythologies, I see the value of a show that requires nothing but a willingness to watch for a hour.
L&O:LA is really, really stupid. I know NBC has been making boneheaded decisions lately, but they ditched Trial by Jury after a few episodes, Criminal Intent was moved to cable and L&O is not pulling the numbers it used to or enough to be as profitable as they'd like and what do they do? They launch a spinoff of the one that wasn't pulling numbers like they wanted.
L&O had a major slip a few years ago (might have been when Cutter took over xADA) and then NBC decided to start playing ping-pong with L&O's timeslot and its ratings never really came back.
These people thought Jay Leno was going to save their network. They have no idea what they are doing.
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Well, at least the franchise gave Munch a home.
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That was when they really changed the writing style to make the characters more 'involved,' and the show really suffered for it. Greene's departure was after he blew away a suspect to save a woman from his troubled past. Lupo had that episode where he got intimately involved with the witness who turned out to be the murderer. Bernard had internet blogger go dig up all the dirt he could on his past, which included an illegitimate child. Making the characters so personally involved in the plotlines just really did not work for me, even though Van Buren's cancer fight was very well done.
I can forgive all if it gave an extension to the awesomeness that is Detective John Munch.
Then again, I think Richard Belzer is totally awesome, and yet, have never watched Homicide. Multiple encounters between Munch and Briscoe between multiple shows means all is forgiven to me.
You will be missed. You where the best.
On a side note does LaO:LA seem like Coke 2 to anyone else?
Also quite frankly NCIS : LA just has an awesome lead in it's actually an awful awful show. The fact that it's in LA is just so they never have to meet up or have a jurisdiction conflict with the main NCIS.