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NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
edited July 2010 in Debate and/or Discourse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY

I'm at work but I think this is the right video

It has to do with the discussion we were having about how intelligence is treated in schools, and also this guy is hilarious and makes a lot of good points

I'm sure a number of people have already seen it but if not get to it
If you think of it, children starting school this year will be retiring in 2065. Nobody has a clue, despite all the expertise that's been on parade for the past four days, what the world will look like in five years' time. And yet we're meant to be educating them for it.
Now, I don't mean to say that being wrong is the same thing as being creative. What we do know is, if you're not prepared to be wrong, you'll never come up with anything original. If you're not prepared to be wrong. And by the time they get to be adults, most kids have lost that capacity. They have become frightened of being wrong.

And we run our companies like this, by the way, we stigmatize mistakes. And we're now running national education systems where mistakes are the worst thing you can make.

And the result is, we are educating people out of their creative capacities.

I'm just gonna keep adding quotes but really watch this thing
But something strikes you when you move to America and when you travel around the world: every education system on earth has the same heirarchy of subjects. Every one, doesn't matter where you go, you'd think it would be otherwise but it isn't. At the top are mathematics and languages, then the humanities, and the bottom are the arts. Everywhere on earth.

And in pretty much every system too, there's a hierarchy within the arts. Art and music are nomally given a higher status in schools than drama and dance. There isn't an education system on the planet that teaches dance every day to children the way we teach them mathematics. Why? Why not? I think this is rather important. I think maths is very important but so is dance. Children dance all the time if they're allowed to, we all do. We all have bodies, don't we? Did I miss a meeting?

Truthfully what happens is, as children grow up we start to educate them progressively from the waist up. And then we focus on their heads. And slightly to one side.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Needs moar wangs.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Captialism is VERY SERIOUS indeed:

    http://www.suntimes.com/business/savage/2464546,CST-NWS-savage05.savagearticle

    Wut?
    The three young girls -- under the watchful eye of a nanny, sitting on the grass with them -- explained that they had regular lemonade, raspberry lemonade, and small chocolate candy bars.

    Then my brother asked how much each item cost.

    "Oh, no," they replied in unison, "they're all free!"

    I sat in the back seat in shock. Free? My brother questioned them again: "But you have to charge something? What should I pay for a lemonade? I'm really thirsty!"

    His fiancee smiled and commented, "Isn't that cute. They have the spirit of giving."

    That really set me off, as my regular readers can imagine.

    "No!" I exclaimed from the back seat. "That's not the spirit of giving. You can only really give when you give something you own. They're giving away their parents' things -- the lemonade, cups, candy. It's not theirs to give."

    I pushed the button to roll down the window and stuck my head out to set them straight.

    "You must charge something for the lemonade," I explained. "That's the whole point of a lemonade stand. You figure out your costs -- how much the lemonade costs, and the cups -- and then you charge a little more than what it costs you, so you can make money. Then you can buy more stuff, and make more lemonade, and sell it and make more money."

    Seriously?

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I understand the point he's making... but you don't really need to piss on a trio of little girls to make it.

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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I loved the lemonade stand game we all had to play way way way way

    way way

    back when in school!

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Captialism is VERY SERIOUS indeed:

    http://www.suntimes.com/business/savage/2464546,CST-NWS-savage05.savagearticle

    Wut?
    The three young girls -- under the watchful eye of a nanny, sitting on the grass with them -- explained that they had regular lemonade, raspberry lemonade, and small chocolate candy bars.

    Then my brother asked how much each item cost.

    "Oh, no," they replied in unison, "they're all free!"

    I sat in the back seat in shock. Free? My brother questioned them again: "But you have to charge something? What should I pay for a lemonade? I'm really thirsty!"

    His fiancee smiled and commented, "Isn't that cute. They have the spirit of giving."

    That really set me off, as my regular readers can imagine.

    "No!" I exclaimed from the back seat. "That's not the spirit of giving. You can only really give when you give something you own. They're giving away their parents' things -- the lemonade, cups, candy. It's not theirs to give."

    I pushed the button to roll down the window and stuck my head out to set them straight.

    "You must charge something for the lemonade," I explained. "That's the whole point of a lemonade stand. You figure out your costs -- how much the lemonade costs, and the cups -- and then you charge a little more than what it costs you, so you can make money. Then you can buy more stuff, and make more lemonade, and sell it and make more money."

    Seriously?

    I didn't realize Micheal Moriarty had gotten syndicated.

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    PasserbyePasserbye I am much older than you. in Beach CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Huzzah, new digs! Completely with cross-thread posting.

    I feel at home already. :)

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Can we not talk about Michael? :x

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Oh man. I almost teared up at the end of that Dr. Who episode.

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I spent most of yesterday with no access to the internet, except through a friend's iPhone.

    I now want a iPhone; someone, please correct this misbehavior on my part.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Can we not talk about Michael? :x

    I'm aware he brings shame upon your family. But he's so amusing in a scary crazy kinda way.

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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    mario kart on wii is the best one

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Tamin wrote: »
    I spent most of yesterday with no access to the internet, except through a friend's iPhone.

    I now want a iPhone; someone, please correct this misbehavior on my part.

    Well it depends. Do you use your mobile phone for calling people?

    If so, an iPhone isn't for you!

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    PasserbyePasserbye I am much older than you. in Beach CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    What happened to Will? He posted 'start her back up', but then didn't lock the other [chat] thread.

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    I spent most of yesterday with no access to the internet, except through a friend's iPhone.

    I now want a iPhone; someone, please correct this misbehavior on my part.

    Well it depends. Do you use your mobile phone for calling people?

    If so, an iPhone isn't for you!

    yeah then you need an iPad

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    GalahadGalahad Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Is scary out there again.

    It has been a very rainy summer.

    On the other hand it is cooler here than in Seattle... so I'll take it.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Oh man. I almost teared up at the end of that Dr. Who episode.

    Which one?

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    BurtletoyBurtletoy Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Tamin wrote: »
    I spent most of yesterday with no access to the internet, except through a friend's iPhone.

    I now want a iPhone; someone, please correct this misbehavior on my part.

    Other phones do flash.

    Do iPhones do flash yet?

    Get a different phone.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    What happened to Will? He posted 'start her back up', but then didn't lock the other [chat] thread.

    Heart attack, it happens often to people his age.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    What happened to Will? He posted 'start her back up', but then didn't lock the other [chat] thread.

    His Alzheimers is getting worse.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    What happened to Will? He posted 'start her back up', but then didn't lock the other [chat] thread.

    He's getting old and it's kinda starting to go.


    There were like eight unlocked alterna-[chat]s the other day.

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    I spent most of yesterday with no access to the internet, except through a friend's iPhone.

    I now want a iPhone; someone, please correct this misbehavior on my part.

    Well it depends. Do you use your mobile phone for calling people?

    If so, an iPhone isn't for you!

    I do, occasionally, make calls to and receive calls from various people.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Holy shit. Will is old HATTRICK

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Sweet Savage are supporting Iron Maiden

    fuck Sweet Savage

    they're fucking terrible

    whoever put them on should be ashamed for thinking these shitebags are an appropriate replacement for Heaven and Hell

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    PasserbyePasserbye I am much older than you. in Beach CityRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Galahad where are you?

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    I understand the point he's making... but you don't really need to piss on a trio of little girls to make it.


    I'm feeling a porno in this...

    3 girls

    pissing

    lemonade

    cups


    Everything is right there.

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Oh man. I almost teared up at the end of that Dr. Who episode.

    Which one?

    The End of the World...

    I don't know, it's just the part where she's all talking about how world blew up and no one cared and then he takes her back to her own time.

    Very emotional.

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    GalahadGalahad Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Houston, Tx.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Galahad wrote: »
    Is scary out there again.

    It has been a very rainy summer.

    On the other hand it is cooler here than in Seattle... so I'll take it.

    I know! It's actually tolerable out today. It's currently 79F!

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    NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I added quotes to the OP

    If you find them interesting you should really watch the video

    I know it's 20 minutes long but I swear it will fly by. The guy is also very funny and entertaining which makes it not just an interesting video but a fun one.

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    evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Burtletoy wrote: »
    Tamin wrote: »
    I spent most of yesterday with no access to the internet, except through a friend's iPhone.

    I now want a iPhone; someone, please correct this misbehavior on my part.

    Other phones do flash.

    Do iPhones do flash yet?

    Get a different phone.

    6a00d83451f25369e201347ff58d1a970c-800wi

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    WinkyWinky rRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Chanus wrote: »
    I understand the point he's making... but you don't really need to piss on a trio of little girls to make it.


    I'm feeling a porno in this...

    3 girls

    pissing

    lemonade

    cups


    Everything is right there.

    I thought you were against Japanese culture.

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    Silas BrownSilas Brown That's hobo style. Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Winky wrote: »
    Oh man. I almost teared up at the end of that Dr. Who episode.

    Which one?

    The End of the World...

    I don't know, it's just the part where she's all talking about how world blew up and no one cared and then he takes her back to her own time.

    Very emotional.

    That was a strong episode for so early in the series. It's not amongst my favorites, but it's the one that kept me watching long enough to become a fan.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    I want to watch, but I'm at work... and once i get home I'll have forgotten.

    Edit: In reference to the OP, not Jeeps' creepy porno.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    The guy in the OP looks like an old British Senjutsu.

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    ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Holy shit. Will is old HATTRICK

    I'm saddened that I was second, but happy I wasn't third.

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Captialism is VERY SERIOUS indeed:

    http://www.suntimes.com/business/savage/2464546,CST-NWS-savage05.savagearticle

    Wut?
    The three young girls -- under the watchful eye of a nanny, sitting on the grass with them -- explained that they had regular lemonade, raspberry lemonade, and small chocolate candy bars.

    Then my brother asked how much each item cost.

    "Oh, no," they replied in unison, "they're all free!"

    I sat in the back seat in shock. Free? My brother questioned them again: "But you have to charge something? What should I pay for a lemonade? I'm really thirsty!"

    His fiancee smiled and commented, "Isn't that cute. They have the spirit of giving."

    That really set me off, as my regular readers can imagine.

    "No!" I exclaimed from the back seat. "That's not the spirit of giving. You can only really give when you give something you own. They're giving away their parents' things -- the lemonade, cups, candy. It's not theirs to give."

    I pushed the button to roll down the window and stuck my head out to set them straight.

    "You must charge something for the lemonade," I explained. "That's the whole point of a lemonade stand. You figure out your costs -- how much the lemonade costs, and the cups -- and then you charge a little more than what it costs you, so you can make money. Then you can buy more stuff, and make more lemonade, and sell it and make more money."

    Seriously?

    Whatafuckin Wiener.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Holy shit. Will is old HATTRICK

    I'm saddened that I was second, but happy I wasn't third.

    Hey man. I made it a hat trick. Without me, it'd just be a "Grrr. Beat'd" post!

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    TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Galahad wrote: »
    Houston, Tx.

    I dislike your city. This may be because my idiot brother decided it would be a good idea to fly to that airport instead of one closer.

    I spent 12 hours driving to, and collecting him, from the airport. This was ridiculous in the extreme.

    Fortunately, on the return trip (after dropping him off so he can fly home), I detoured and spent some time with a friend I haven't had a chance to see in some time.

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    Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Winky wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    I understand the point he's making... but you don't really need to piss on a trio of little girls to make it.


    I'm feeling a porno in this...

    3 girls

    pissing

    lemonade

    cups


    Everything is right there.

    I thought you were against Japanese culture.


    I am, sort of. I won't conflate the whole of their culture with anime. The anime aspect of the culture has an inescapable gross pedo vibe though.

    Not like the porno I'm ripping right now, which tells the heartwarming story of a young man who starts stalking the really hot older dude who lives across from him and then they end up having really great sex eventually.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited July 2010
    Hahaha that lemonade article is hilarious.

    I ROLL DOWN MY WINDOW AND TELL THEM HOW THEY MUST SELL THE LEMONADE.

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