Sprite-based or Twin-stick Diablo Clones?

InkSplat

So, last night as I was trying to get to sleep, I started wondering if there were any 16-bitish, Spirte-based, Link to the Past-style Diablo Clones out there? I am just kind of a sucker for that classic sprite-based artstyle, and would love to play a nice little modern Hack-n-slash/loot crawl done in it.

Or, beyond that, what about Twin-stick "shooter" Diablo clones? Seemed like the twin-stick shooter would work pretty well for the genre, allowing for both ranged and melee classes without too much trouble. Or, hell, are there even any twin-stick shooters that have an RPG-like system at all, with upgrades that carry on and a progressing story and such?

Darkewolfe

Twin-stick shooter diablo clone = Borderlands.

chamberlain

Darkewolfe wrote: »

Twin-stick shooter diablo clone = Borderlands.

That not what he means by twin stick. Think Smash TV with upgrades.

It's not recent, but the Hunter: The Reckoning games fit most of what you are asking for.

InkSplat

Darkewolfe wrote: »

Twin-stick shooter diablo clone = Borderlands.

While I guess that's technically true, I was looking for something a bit more in the isometric/top-down style. I am pretty terrible at FPS in general.

InkSplat

chamberlain wrote: »

Darkewolfe wrote: »

Twin-stick shooter diablo clone = Borderlands.

That not what he means by twin stick. Think Smash TV with upgrades.

It's not recent, but the Hunter: The Reckoning games fit most of what you are asking for.

And Oooo. It looks like ass, but otherwise that is totally what I'm looking for. I'll have to try and find that somewhere.

UncleSporky

Sounds a lot like the Gauntlet games of yesteryear, which are more shooters in a medieval setting than anything else. Modern ones are not sprite based though.

I think your specific requirements are going to be really tough to find. What is most important, is it the sprite-basedness of it? If not, the Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance games on last gen consoles were awesome for iso hack n' slash with some Diablo underpinnings.

TheKoolEagle

too human works kind of like borderlands, and melee is a lot of fun in that game, but again, not really meeting the criteria you laid out

chamberlain

UncleSporky wrote: »

Sounds a lot like the Gauntlet games of yesteryear, which are more shooters in a medieval setting than anything else. Modern ones are not sprite based though.

I think your specific requirements are going to be really tough to find. What is most important, is it the sprite-basedness of it? If not, the Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance games on last gen consoles were awesome for iso hack n' slash with some Diablo underpinnings.

Champions of Norrath and its sequel also fit, then.

InkSplat

UncleSporky wrote: »

Sounds a lot like the Gauntlet games of yesteryear, which are more shooters in a medieval setting than anything else. Modern ones are not sprite based though.

I think your specific requirements are going to be really tough to find. What is most important, is it the sprite-basedness of it? If not, the Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance games on last gen consoles were awesome for iso hack n' slash with some Diablo underpinnings.

It was more one-or-the-other that I was expecting to find, honestly. However, for a hack-and-slash, then yeah, I'd really love to find a sprite-based one. But a good hack&slash could win me over anyway.

And yeah, I used to love Gauntlet: Legends back in the day.

It was thinking of Rune Factory that got me wondering about it. I enjoy the sprite-based hack&slashing, but the combat isn't all that great there. And then I was just kind of thinking about ranged-classes, and figured twin-stick would allow for a pretty good control scheme.

Oh, also, if any game happens to have local multi-player, that'd be awesome too.

UncleSporky

Yeah, you definitely want Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, the multi is so much fun. The second game is way better but really rare and expensive.

Shadowfire

UncleSporky wrote: »

Yeah, you definitely want Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, the multi is so much fun. The second game is way better but really rare and expensive.

As mentioned, also Champions of Norrath and Return to Arms.

And along those lines, also consider The Bard's Tale, X-Men Legends, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

Bullio

Never saw a US release, sadly. It desperately needs one.

Darkewolfe

What about the various Dynasty Warriors stuff?

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Too Human plays like a twin-stick shooter, just with a different camera angle. However, it's a bad game.

If you're being loose with how cartoony the sprites can look, Depths of Peril is a wonderful game. No multiplayer, though.

InkSplat

Actually, cartoony is better. I'll check out Depths of Peril too, thanks!

Sipex

There's Sacred 2.

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Don't get Sacred 2.

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Sacred 1 is passable. Not great, but passable.

Sipex

It was good enough that they made a second one which had a lot o-

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JihadJesus

Page- wrote: »

Too Human plays like a twin-stick shooter, just with a different camera angle. However, it's a bad game.

If you're being loose with how cartoony the sprites can look, Depths of Peril is a wonderful game. No multiplayer, though.

I wouldn't say Too Human is a bad game, just a dissapointing one. The first playthrough is actually pretty decent once you figure out the weird control scheme. It just utterly lacks character customization and the post-game is incredibly lackluster.

Fiaryn

UncleSporky wrote: »

Yeah, you definitely want Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, the multi is so much fun. The second game is way better but really rare and expensive.

Is it really? I did not know this, but he is very correct. Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance 2 is a hell of a lot of fun. The personal quests and suchlike are all great fun.

Glad I bought it when it was not rare.

klok

I loved dark alliance, playing it with friends was a blast. I wish they had more games in the same vein. I really want to pick up DA2, It's only 24 bucks on amazon for the xbox version so that doesn't seem to bad.

Sipex

Does the Xbox version work for 360? I might pick it up if it does.

klok

Both games do work for 360 so that's good news.

UncleSporky

Fiaryn wrote: »

UncleSporky wrote: »

Yeah, you definitely want Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, the multi is so much fun. The second game is way better but really rare and expensive.

Is it really? I did not know this, but he is very correct. Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance 2 is a hell of a lot of fun. The personal quests and suchlike are all great fun.

Glad I bought it when it was not rare.

After a quick look online I guess it's not as bad as I thought. Maybe it was worse when I tracked it down a few years ago. I just remember being laughed out of three used game stores, all of which who had clerks who had heard of it and were aware of it being sought after. And I paid $60 for it online which was as cheap as I could find for a good copy.

Couscous

Shadowfire wrote: »

UncleSporky wrote: »

Yeah, you definitely want Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance, the multi is so much fun. The second game is way better but really rare and expensive.

As mentioned, also Champions of Norrath and Return to Arms.

And along those lines, also consider The Bard's Tale, X-Men Legends, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

I liked The Bard's Tale. It was a nice DA clone with singing and decent jokes.

slash000

Wasn't that Lord of the Rings game for GBA a pretty good and very much sprite-based Diablo clone? I think Return of the King?

Couscous

slash000 wrote: »

Wasn't that Lord of the Rings game for GBA a pretty good and very much sprite-based Diablo clone? I think Return of the King?

I've heard bad things about that, but I might be thinking of another vide game version of the movies as it looks like it got decent reviews.

http://www.gamerankings.com/gba/914708-the-lord-of-the-rings-the-return-of-the-king/index.html

slash000

Both Two Towers and ROTK got pretty great reviews that describe it as a "mini-Diablo."

But I dunno I never played it myself.

Couscous

slash000 wrote: »

Both Two Towers and ROTK got pretty great reviews that describe it as a "mini-Diablo."

But I dunno I never played it myself.

http://www.gamespot.com/gba/adventure/lordoftheringsthefotr/index.html
This is the one that I was probably thinking of.

Fiaryn

Man now I want to replay Dark Alliance 2. Thanks a LOT thread.

UncleSporky

Yes, both of the movie license LotRs on GBA are the best handheld games of all time. RotK more so for having more playable characters, tighter skill design, more equipment and a way to mule items over to other characters.

The one that Cous heard about was Fellowship of the Ring GBA which was not based on the movie license and was so buggy that you could not finish the game.

PolloDiablo

What was the other Lord of the Rings game on the GBA? It was a strategy game, the field was divided into three areas, and you could only activate a certain number of people per area?

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UncleSporky wrote: »

Yes, both of the movie license LotRs on GBA are the best handheld games of all time. RotK more so for having more playable characters, tighter skill design, more equipment and a way to mule items over to other characters.

The one that Cous heard about was Fellowship of the Ring GBA which was not based on the movie license and was so buggy that you could not finish the game.

I played one of these, probably Two Towers. It was alright.

If we're talking handhelds then there's the two Shining Soul games on the GBA. They're not super awesome, but they're alright time wasters, and more cartooney than the LotR games. The second game had a bunch of different classes, weapons, and spells that added some replayability.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfitV4_ZmxE

UncleSporky

PolloDiablo wrote: »

What was the other Lord of the Rings game on the GBA? It was a strategy game, the field was divided into three areas, and you could only activate a certain number of people per area?

The Third Age, I'm pretty sure. A lot like Advance Wars.

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UncleSporky wrote: »

PolloDiablo wrote: »

What was the other Lord of the Rings game on the GBA? It was a strategy game, the field was divided into three areas, and you could only activate a certain number of people per area?

The Third Age, I'm pretty sure. A lot like Advance Wars.

The Third Age was an exceptionally terrible Final Fantasy X clone, not a strategy game.

urahonky

So Dark Alliance 2 is worth the 27 I just spent on it?

Fiaryn

urahonky wrote: »

So Dark Alliance 2 is worth the 27 I just spent on it?

Hell yeah. The Rogue, Barbarian, and Necromancer are my favorite classes.

The Barbarian loses points for being the only dude without a personal quest track as I recall it. It was either him, the Priest, or both. The Drow bitch, dwarf Rogue, and elven Necromancer all have kickin' personal quests that lead to a prestige class.

urahonky

Fiaryn wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

So Dark Alliance 2 is worth the 27 I just spent on it?

Hell yeah. The Rogue, Barbarian, and Necromancer are my favorite classes.

The Barbarian loses points for being the only dude without a personal quest track as I recall it. It was either him, the Priest, or both. The Drow bitch, dwarf Rogue, and elven Necromancer all have kickin' personal quests that lead to a prestige class.

Before I splooge all over the place, this has local co-op right?

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urahonky wrote: »

Fiaryn wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

So Dark Alliance 2 is worth the 27 I just spent on it?

Hell yeah. The Rogue, Barbarian, and Necromancer are my favorite classes.

The Barbarian loses points for being the only dude without a personal quest track as I recall it. It was either him, the Priest, or both. The Drow bitch, dwarf Rogue, and elven Necromancer all have kickin' personal quests that lead to a prestige class.

Before I splooge all over the place, this has local co-op right?

Wouldn't be much of a game without it.

Ceno

Man.

Where's Dark Alliance 3, all next-genned up?

urahonky

Page- wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

Fiaryn wrote: »

urahonky wrote: »

So Dark Alliance 2 is worth the 27 I just spent on it?

Hell yeah. The Rogue, Barbarian, and Necromancer are my favorite classes.

The Barbarian loses points for being the only dude without a personal quest track as I recall it. It was either him, the Priest, or both. The Drow bitch, dwarf Rogue, and elven Necromancer all have kickin' personal quests that lead to a prestige class.

Before I splooge all over the place, this has local co-op right?

Wouldn't be much of a game without it.

Where the HELL have I been?