Game of the Year 2010 Poll [RESULTS]

lowlylowlycook · January 2011

Seems like GiantBomb did a similar survey on their site.

Here are their results:

GAME (# OF LISTS, TOTAL POINTS)

1. --- Mass Effect 2 (3841, 33897)
2. --- Red Dead Redemption (3258, 25619)
3. +8 Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood (2061, 14075)
4. -1 StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty (1689, 11385)
5. +1 Super Meat Boy (1628, 9511)
6. +2 Halo: Reach (1675, 9419)
7. +2 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (1334, 8184)
8. +11 Heavy Rain (1434, 7861)
9. -4 Fallout: New Vegas (1329, 7719)
10. --- Sid Meier's Civilization V (1249, 6884)
11. +1 Bayonetta (1131, 6688)
12. ** Alan Wake (1222, 6454)
13. ** Limbo (1125, 5647)
14. -7 Super Mario Galaxy 2 (921, 5549)
15. -3 Call of Duty: Black Ops (1105, 5273)
16. ** God of War III (980, 5039)
17. ** Pac-Man Championship Edition DX (829, 4062)
18. ** Rock Band 3 (663, 3757)
19. ** Super Street Fighter IV (665, 3754)
20. -6 Darksiders (766, 3517)

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Undead Scottsman · January 2011

Lara Croft got #47 on that one too

cooljammer00 · January 2011

For how much Giant Bomb talked up Hot Pursuit, it didn't crack the top 20

Peewi · January 2011

I guess Giant Bomb has way more users than we do. More than four times as many people voted in this poll at all, voted for ME2 at Giant Bomb. Not that I mind. With that many users, you're going to see ones you recognize less often.

cooljammer00 wrote: »

For how much Giant Bomb talked up Hot Pursuit, it didn't crack the top 20

That list is user votes, not the opinions of the Giant Bomb guys. I think they awarded it with "most improved franchise".

C2B · January 2011

There is some serious Deadly Premonition bashing going on in the GB commentary. Apparently it only made the list because of the endurance run and it's nearly impossible to have actually enjoyed the game.

mxmarks · January 2011

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

Jazz · January 2011

Glad to see the right game won, and by a fucking landslide too from that distantly second-placed pretender. Good job, PAers.

This is only the second time my #1 pick and the consensus pick were the same (the other was Fallout 3 in '08).

Kuratosu · January 2011

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

Yeah pretty much. What peeves me is everyone's insinuation that the game can only be enjoyed ironically, and not genuinely for the things it does.

lowlylowlycook · January 2011

I added in the relative ranking between our and the GB top 20. Hopefully I didn't make too many mistakes. ** means a game not in mcc's top 20 and -- means ranked the same for both surveys.

Frosteey · January 2011

Rune Factory 3 in top 10 : D

UnbreakableVow · January 2011

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

But it's not an excellent game

It's a neat story with neat characters wrapped in a terrible game

It's like Alan Wake syndrome times 100

RandomHajile · January 2011

LCDXX wrote: »

Kuratosu wrote: »

It was my #1, so I did my part.

Ditto... however, Bayonetta only took my #1 vote because it won a coin toss against ME2. I just couldn't decide on my own. I enjoyed both titles immensely.

Monger wrote: »

Also my #1.

I blame a general lack of appreciation for the fine art of the combat dance-off.

I blame that as well as poor timing. If I recall, Bayonetta was among the first big name releases for 2010 that barely missed the 2009 clusterfuck holiday release season. It was released at the very beginning of January 2010 so Bayonetta basically had an entire year's worth of great games to stack up against... and that sometimes clouds judgement with newer, shinier titles that released throughout the rest of the year.

Same goes for Darksiders, too, I guess. If I recall, they both released day and date with each other. But I never got the chance to try Darksiders out. I was hypnotized by break dance gun-fu fighting. With rocket launchers.

Yeah, Bayonetta and Darksiders were initially lower than I would have guessed, but both dropped even further using the averaging method. I have to agree that it didn't help that they were released on the same day, very early in the year. I kind of wonder what would happen if they had been released a month apart, a couple months before RDR.

Tanolen · January 2011

New Vegas finished pretty high, I am happy.

C2B · January 2011

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

There have been multiple titles of that kind this year.

UnbreakableVow · January 2011

Sadly, Alpha Protocol was not one of them ;-)

cooljammer00 · January 2011

I put AP really high in my list.

C2B · January 2011

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Sadly, Alpha Protocol was not one of them

That said could someone make a list that only counts votes for places 1-5 (or 1-10)? I think that would be interesting.

mxmarks · January 2011

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

But it's not an excellent game

It's a neat story with neat characters wrapped in a terrible game

It's like Alan Wake syndrome times 100

But I thought Alan Wake was ALSO a great game.

We will never agree on this.

Thank god we have our mutual love of LOST to get us past differences like these.

Stormwatcher · January 2011

Unbreakable Vow is usually horribly wrong, so.

RandomHajile · January 2011

C2B wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

Sadly, Alpha Protocol was not one of them

That said could someone make a list that only counts votes for places 1-5 (or 1-10)? I think that would be interesting.

Done.

First, top 25, only votes in the top 10...

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...sorted by total points:

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...sorted by average score:

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Top 25, only votes in the top 5...

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...sorted by total points:

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...sorted by average score:

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And for the hell of it, top 25, only votes in the top 3...

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...sorted by total points:

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...sorted by average score:

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Actually, there are some really interesting results taking only the "top X" votes using the average scoring system. Top 3 is particularly interesting since you skew it to the group's top three as a whole. (Again, I had the cutoff for number of votes set to more than 10.) The picture is a bit cloudy, due to not knowing how people rank certain games against others, but I think the above lists are interesting.

On a side note, I don't know if I will be able to remember what all of these scripts and output files do when next year's poll rolls around (and this doesn't even include all of the ad hoc output that I just copied and pasted directly from the program's output, like the ones above):

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Mr_Grinch · January 2011

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

But it's not an excellent game

It's a neat story with neat characters wrapped in a terrible game

It's like Alan Wake syndrome times 100

I agree with this. I played through Deadly Premonition up until the open world bit, then I got a little bored.

Stormwatcher · January 2011

Man, PC still kicks a lot of ass. It's definitely not dying.

mere_immortal · January 2011

Stormwatcher wrote: »

Man, PC still kicks a lot of ass. It's definitely not dying.

I do enjoy the few articles every year claiming it's dying.

They've been running since about 1998.

C2B · January 2011

Top 3 average score list is incredible.

Deadly Premonition is first and NIER third.

Lawndart · January 2011

C2B wrote: »

Top 3 average score list is incredible.

Deadly Premonition is first and NIER third.

That's a scoring system that rewards or at least highlights the cult games that don't get many votes but the people that vote for them put them in their top 3.

I'm pretty sure the "Why vote for (huge game) when everyone's already heard of that, I'm going to pick (cult game) as my #1 since more people should check that shit out!" factor influences such votes as well.

RandomHajile · January 2011

Lawndart wrote: »

C2B wrote: »

Top 3 average score list is incredible.

Deadly Premonition is first and NIER third.

That's a scoring system that rewards or at least highlights the cult games that don't get many votes but the people that vote for them put them in their top 3.

I'm pretty sure the "Why vote for (huge game) when everyone's already heard of that, I'm going to pick (cult game) as my #1 since more people should check that shit out!" factor influences such votes as well.

Yeah, you can really pick those out on the listing of top 25, only considering votes in the top 3, sorted by average, with no cutoff:

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I think you can see why I made my cutoff 10 votes... Deadly Premonition is still an interesting case, however, with 17 people voting it in the top 3, on average between their first and second pick.

UnbreakableVow · January 2011

mxmarks wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

But it's not an excellent game

It's a neat story with neat characters wrapped in a terrible game

It's like Alan Wake syndrome times 100

But I thought Alan Wake was ALSO a great game.

We will never agree on this.

Thank god we have our mutual love of LOST to get us past differences like these.

Maybe

But you yourself said in the DP thread that DP is not a good game

That the combat was bad and literally added at the last second

vsove · January 2011

Really happy to see that Call of Pripyat did so well (comparatively speaking).

Yes, I'm also happy about ME2 (since I worked on the damned thing) but CoP was, in many ways, my favourite game of the past year. Still getting tons of play out of that one.

mxmarks · January 2011

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

UnbreakableVow wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

I have pretty much given up on trying to explain what a really excellent game Deadly Premonition is. The people who actually play it almost always end up going "Ohhh...NOW I get it!", and the people who don't are missing out. That's that.

But it's not an excellent game

It's a neat story with neat characters wrapped in a terrible game

It's like Alan Wake syndrome times 100

But I thought Alan Wake was ALSO a great game.

We will never agree on this.

Thank god we have our mutual love of LOST to get us past differences like these.

Maybe

But you yourself said in the DP thread that DP is not a good game

That the combat was bad and literally added at the last second

True, the combat is bad, and I said that as a "game", as game would be defined by simply the mechanics of whats going on, it isnt good.

But my own personal definition of a game I guess is much looser. I overlook all of that because it's stuck with me and been the most enjoyable thing I've played all year. I really don't look at graphics/controls specifically unless they specifically stand out - and in Deadly Premonition if you asked me to name the top 5 things that stuck with me, they'd all be the pros well before I got to the cons.

C2B · January 2011

mxmarks wrote: »

True, the combat is bad, and I said that as a "game", as game would be defined by simply the mechanics of whats going on, it isnt good.

But my own personal definition of a game I guess is much looser. I overlook all of that because it's stuck with me and been the most enjoyable thing I've played all year. I really don't look at graphics/controls specifically unless they specifically stand out - and in Deadly Premonition if you asked me to name the top 5 things that stuck with me, they'd all be the pros well before I got to the cons.

I don't really think its advisable to define the quality of a game only by its gameplay mechanics (though on average its the most important point). A game still also consits of the other elements its build on like visual or audio design or writing or....

Arkady · January 2011

Dhalphir wrote: »

I still think its incredible that Mass Effect 2 beat Starcraft 2. And that it was also beaten by Red Dead.

Obviously I'm biased towards SC2 because I fucking love the game, but it seems odd to me that such a hotly anticipated game has such a relatively poor showing.

I pose to you that ME2 launched in January and has had a bizarrely active thread ever since, often growing 3 or 4 pages a day even now, despite being a single player game and the most recent dlc launching in September. Considering that, I would have been surprised if it didn't take first.

Endaro · January 2011

Amnesia not even on there? You got a pretty bad list right there.

MayGodHaveMercy · January 2011

You had a chance to Nominate it and Vote for it.

UnbreakableVow · January 2011

I think he meant it didn't place in the top 20

Amnesia is #34

Rehab · January 2011

Jazz wrote: »

Glad to see the right game won, and by a fucking landslide too from that distantly second-placed pretender. Good job, PAers.

Jazz? More like Jizz all over Mass Effect 2 because you have a hard on for weird science fiction alien sex and melodrama . . . or something.

But at least you didn't have to throw a tantrum due to some other game winning. Like anything else deserved it. Pfffftttt.

UnbreakableVow · January 2011

I would have preferred my #1 game winning...I mean, who wouldn't?

But I'm not bitter at all. The #6 spot for a $15 downloadable is perfectly fine, as far as I'm concerned. Great showing.

Dhalphir · January 2011

I would have preferred Starcraft 2 to win, but I recognise and understand that while, as an example of its genre, it is arguably better than Mass Effect 2, as an overall game it has less wide appeal and as such does not deserve to beat ME2 in a Goty poll.

mxmarks · January 2011

C2B wrote: »

mxmarks wrote: »

True, the combat is bad, and I said that as a "game", as game would be defined by simply the mechanics of whats going on, it isnt good.

But my own personal definition of a game I guess is much looser. I overlook all of that because it's stuck with me and been the most enjoyable thing I've played all year. I really don't look at graphics/controls specifically unless they specifically stand out - and in Deadly Premonition if you asked me to name the top 5 things that stuck with me, they'd all be the pros well before I got to the cons.

I don't really think its advisable to define the quality of a game only by its gameplay mechanics (though on average its the most important point). A game still also consits of the other elements its build on like visual or audio design or writing or....

Thats what I was saying, you just said it better.

UnbreakableVow · January 2011

All that stuff is nice and well, but I consider it trimming

I don't care how well-written your game is, if it's not fun to play, it's not fun to play, end of story.

I play games because they are...

*drumroll*

fun to play.

I do still plan on going through Deadly Premonition, but let's say I played it through to completion three months ago. Even if I thought the story was absolutely fantastic, filled with amazing characters, I still wouldn't place the game anywhere near the vicinity of my top twenty.

Peewi · January 2011

Dhalphir wrote: »

I would have preferred Starcraft 2 to win, but I recognise and understand that while, as an example of its genre, it is arguably better than Mass Effect 2, as an overall game it has less wide appeal and as such does not deserve to beat ME2 in a Goty poll.

The difference between ME2 and SC2 is that while ME2 is a fuckawesome experience to play through on your own, SC2 is the game that will be play for years. It's the same reason I voted Batman as my number 1 in the GOTY 2009 poll, but voted Street Fighter IV above it in the game of the decade poll.

Then it turns out that Capcom has no intentions of releasing Super Street Fighter IV for PC and I don't actually play SF4 any more.

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