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Dark Souls/Demon's Souls "Sen's Fortress and the Temple of GODDAMMIT!"

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    there are a decent number of offensive miracles, although they generally have limited pvp usage except for one that is really great in pvp

    the lightning spear spells are all pretty nice, though, especially against bosses

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    AkilaeAkilae Registered User regular
    Can only sorcs learn non pyro offensive spells?

    I'm pretty sure all chars can cross train in all skills. My melee character has a few spells such as Heavy Soul Arrow and Homing Soul Mass in possession. Can't use them due to low int, but it's all there when the stats reach acceptable levels.
    Also do these bosses souls make anything worth having? Had em in my inventory for a while. Got all up to the end of Anor Londo inc. Sif.

    I think general consensus is that most of the boss soul weapons aren't all that great, or are mostly ng+ weapons. Quelaag's Fury Sword is good, and also the Greatshield of Artorias. However, there's a youtube clip floating around that shows the Great Sword of Artorias being the highest damage weapon in the game. I went ahead and forged the Dragonslayer Spear and the Great Sword of Artorias, but haven't been able to use them to due to stat requirements.
    And one final one, is there a good place to farm large shards?

    I stopped farming them once I got to Anor Londo. Instead, I engage in jolly co-op, escorting people and helping them beat Fatboy Slim, which also provides a lot of souls to fund my large shard addiction.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    yeah, it's probably more productive to farm the enemies in anor londo for souls and then purchase the shards from the giant blacksmiths

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    CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    With 410 item discovery the leeches drop large shards quite regularly, and they can drop green titanite in stacks of 5 to boot

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    man, it's great that, even though I've seen a few videos of it and listened to the music for it a good bit, the last boss is still really enjoyable

    if only I didn't have to get past those knights every time

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    The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    I only got to play Demon's Souls earlier this year, and while I played the hell out of it, not once was I ever successful in any multiplayer dealings. Finally picked this up, and it's really cool to be able to play while it's still going strong.

    Just wandering around, minding my own business, and I get my very first invasion message. I'm starting to freak out a bit, but then I remember there were a whole mess of summon signs a little ways back. I call for one, and basically I'm just holding off this black phantom until backup arrives. Which it does, and we kick his ass. Then with buddy in tow, I explore a bit, find the gargoyle boss, and he helps me lay the smackdown on them.

    Pretty damn exhilarating, and I never had any experience like that in the first game.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I'm not really sure how the multi works in demon's souls. I've thrown my blue rock down a few times in front of a boss door that I've beaten already thinking maybe some people want help and wondered around clearing the area for souls but nothing ever happened. Then if i step across into the boss area it says my sign has disappeared.

    I know the multi in demon may be much less populated than the new shiny dark souls but I feel like something should have happened somewhere along the line.

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    Catastrophe_XXVICatastrophe_XXVI Registered User regular
    I'm not really sure how the multi works in demon's souls. I've thrown my blue rock down a few times in front of a boss door that I've beaten already thinking maybe some people want help and wondered around clearing the area for souls but nothing ever happened. Then if i step across into the boss area it says my sign has disappeared.

    I know the multi in demon may be much less populated than the new shiny dark souls but I feel like something should have happened somewhere along the line.

    I played mostly off line and maybe someone could answer better than I can. For someone to summon you, they have to be alive. It also has to do wtih which boss your doing and the area. Right infront of the door may not always be the best chance to get someone to summon you. Some times it's better to do it at the start of the level so the two of you can get to the boss alive.

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    My Gravelord is coming along nicely.

    +3 GL sword, +4 BKS, +7 elite knights, working on the pyro glove now. Only bosses down are the Taurus Demon and Capra. I'm sure I'll get bored putting my symbol down outside the gargoyles in no time flat, but gives me something to do when not working on NG++ with my main. :)

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    I was helping someone when they were invaded by one of those guys that preys on lower level characters

    he had the dragon king greataxe, wrath of the gods, and gravelord greatsword dance

    just this constant barrage of area attacks

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    $kill -9$kill -9 Registered User regular
    Nerdgasmic wrote:
    I was helping someone when they were invaded by one of those guys that preys on lower level characters

    he had the dragon king greataxe, wrath of the gods, and gravelord greatsword dance

    just this constant barrage of area attacks

    How effective is the gravelord greatsword dance in PvP? It doesn't have a faith requirement so it may be nice for my strength/melee char. I've never seen it in action.

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    It has quite a long cast time, about the same as heal. It's definitely not something you can cast mid melee, like wrath.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    it's chance of actually hitting the enemy are kind of spotty, too

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    $kill -9$kill -9 Registered User regular
    Klatu wrote:
    It has quite a long cast time, about the same as heal. It's definitely not something you can cast mid melee, like wrath.

    Do miracle cast times lower with an increase in dexterity like spell cast times do?

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    yes, but not all of them do

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    AegeriAegeri Tiny wee bacteriums Plateau of LengRegistered User regular
    I was wondering as it's been a LONG time since I played this, but have they finally patched the game to make multiplayer connectivity more than a once in ten blue moons occasion? Thinking of picking this game up again as I've seen it cheap in a few places - but only if they've fixed the MP.

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    $kill -9$kill -9 Registered User regular
    Nerdgasmic wrote:
    yes, but not all of them do
    What about this one? There must be a list somewhere.....

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    the bonus that dex provides is kind of small, anyway

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    The other bad thing about GLSD is that even though it has 40 uses, it uses them like fire whip for pyromancy. 40 uses only = about 2 casts, or 3, but the 3rd one is going to be very weak.

    It's definitely not what I was envisioning when I thought about using it :)

    @Aegeri - I don't invade others often, as I have shit luck with that, but co-op is fine.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    not to mention that, unlike most spells and miracles, you can't get more of the sword dance spells through multiple playthroughs

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    Haven't seen any lists of spells around that are affected by Dex.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    dex reduces the cast time of most offensive spells, although the speed you gain per point is pretty miniscule

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    Chrono HelixChrono Helix Registered User regular
    Level 125, 75:41:41, PLATINUM!

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    I was thinking about picking up the guide book for this when I get back from France, but I read in the Amazon review that a recent patch made a lot of the information obsolete. Thoughts?

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    yeah, the guide is probably only a guide idea if you think you would appreciate it for reasons other than the information in it

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    CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    The maps and most of the NPC info is still good

    A lot of the weapon stats and spell effects changed so those parts are basically useless

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Blindly I go then!

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    Best way to go!

    So after about 2hrs of farming (with occasional summons to fight Quelaag mixed in) I came out with 36 large shards and 98 Green shards from killing leeches.. I can definitely recommend them over the slimes in depths for shards.

    Infact I would say that farming the greens there is even better than farming souls to buy the greens, especially if you need greens in bulk. If you only needed 10 or so, you could get lucky and get them in 1 run, but you might be better off farming souls to convert them to greens... but that would still be 50k souls.

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    initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    That's where I am with Demon Souls right now. A whole lot of "I have no idea what this does" pull lever, giant spider boss, what the hell!!!

    It's been a really blind corpse running type of game so far.

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    SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Klatu wrote:
    Best way to go!

    So after about 2hrs of farming (with occasional summons to fight Quelaag mixed in) I came out with 36 large shards and 98 Green shards from killing leeches.. I can definitely recommend them over the slimes in depths for shards.

    Infact I would say that farming the greens there is even better than farming souls to buy the greens, especially if you need greens in bulk. If you only needed 10 or so, you could get lucky and get them in 1 run, but you might be better off farming souls to convert them to greens... but that would still be 50k souls.


    50k souls is nothing.
    I was running around with 3.2 million pvp souls for a while because I had nothing to spend them on.

    that was pre-patch, and souls are WAY easier to come by now. 300k takes like ten minutes.

    Sokpuppet on
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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    edited December 2011
    In NG, or NG+?

    I'm not stressed about getting 50k, but for first time through the game 50k can seem daunting :)

    Where are you getting 300k in ten mins? I know you can get 20k a min in NG+ from forest NPCs

    edit: By the time I got around to actually completing NG+ my guy had around 10mil built up from farming and general play. I am already SL128 on him and didn't want to spend more on leveling.. :(

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    SokpuppetSokpuppet You only yoyo once Registered User regular
    mmm, well. I may be exaggerating for dramatic effect.
    but... NG+ S&O are what, 150,000 all by themselves?

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    Fair enough (not concerned if you're going for dramatic effect, I was just making sure I wasn't wasting time farming the wrong areas lol).

    I should have spent those souls to get me up to nearly 200.. oh well. Nothing I can't get back eventually.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    Summoned up Solaire for my first run on Fatboy Slim, and happened to se a white sign so I called up some other help too, guy wielding what I think was a gargoyle halberd. It it might have been black knight, not sure since I've never seen one of those. Fatty died very fast; my halberd buddy roasted him with greater fireball, and. I saved my greater chaos fireball for super lightning spear guy. That super lightning ass smash is a bear, but the rest of the fight was pretty simple.

    I kind of wish I hadn't called in help the first run. That leaves Stray and Taurus as still the only bosses I've had to try more than twice.

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    KlatuKlatu Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi OiRegistered User regular
    I had tons of trouble with Firesage the first time I came across him, you wouldn't have gotten to him yet seeing as you only just got lordvessel. He's easy now, but was a pain in the ass to get down first time or two.

    The less said about bed of chaos the better..

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    mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    JihadJesus wrote:
    Summoned up Solaire for my first run on Fatboy Slim, and happened to se a white sign so I called up some other help too, guy wielding what I think was a gargoyle halberd. It it might have been black knight, not sure since I've never seen one of those. Fatty died very fast; my halberd buddy roasted him with greater fireball, and. I saved my greater chaos fireball for super lightning spear guy. That super lightning ass smash is a bear, but the rest of the fight was pretty simple.

    I kind of wish I hadn't called in help the first run. That leaves Stray and Taurus as still the only bosses I've had to try more than twice.

    But then you wouldn't have had such fun with jolly cooperation!

    Also what are green shards used for, is it to ascend to magic or upgrade magic?

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited December 2011
    So what did the patch do anyway?

    I mean, I read the notes, and I understand a little, but from a player's perspective, what's it all mean?

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    Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    Esh wrote:
    So what did the patch do anyway?

    I mean, I read the notes, and I understand a little, but from a player's perspective, what's it all mean?

    Generally, it made the game less grindy by giving you humanity more easily and a general boost in souls. More of the crafting materials are now sold too.

    Equipment tweaks were largely to stop there being a "best" build for PVP.

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    NerdgasmicNerdgasmic __BANNED USERS regular
    JihadJesus wrote:
    Summoned up Solaire for my first run on Fatboy Slim, and happened to se a white sign so I called up some other help too, guy wielding what I think was a gargoyle halberd. It it might have been black knight, not sure since I've never seen one of those. Fatty died very fast; my halberd buddy roasted him with greater fireball, and. I saved my greater chaos fireball for super lightning spear guy. That super lightning ass smash is a bear, but the rest of the fight was pretty simple.

    I kind of wish I hadn't called in help the first run. That leaves Stray and Taurus as still the only bosses I've had to try more than twice.

    But then you wouldn't have had such fun with jolly cooperation!

    Also what are green shards used for, is it to ascend to magic or upgrade magic?

    green shards are used to ascend +5 normal weapons to divine, magic, or fire, and each one of those is only done by a certain blacksmith in the game

    once you ascend it, however, you can reinforce it anywhere until it's time to ascend again

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Mojo_Jojo wrote:
    Esh wrote:
    So what did the patch do anyway?

    I mean, I read the notes, and I understand a little, but from a player's perspective, what's it all mean?

    Generally, it made the game less grindy by giving you humanity more easily and a general boost in souls. More of the crafting materials are now sold too.

    Equipment tweaks were largely to stop there being a "best" build for PVP.

    It's still a really difficult game though, right?

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