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  • zenmonkey13zenmonkey13 Registered User
    I've been off the drugs for quite a few years now. I found the trick was being on them at the correct dosage long enough to figure out what "normal" is. Now it's just a matter of ruthless vigilance, to make sure I'm not spiraling too far in either direction. I can recognize when I'm going up or down and if its genuine emotional response or just brain chemicals (I know it's a purely academic distinction). I have coping mechanisms in place (most involve a few hours alone shooting things in video games) but it works. There is hope on the other end of the drug train.

  • TubeTube Working As Intended Administrator, ClubPA admin
    I think there's a lot of individual variance and no one should ever be saying "drugs for everyone" or "drugs are bad just man up".

  • The Good Doctor TranThe Good Doctor Tran Registered User regular
    I agree completely. Even for a given person there can be periods that necessitate medication and periods that don't. If I'm not medicated and my stress level tweaks upward I go batshit insane with anxiety. Other people, while they might receive some benefit from medication during those times, might also be able to manage their issues with exercise or conversation. I don't think one way of dealing is better than the other, and I'm not entirely sure what the phrase 'normal' means in the context of a mind that's broken on some level.

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  • Denis hellenDenis hellen Registered User
    edited January 2012
    Having been put on lexapro for a few months I can defiantly tell you that subjectively you do notice that your emotional experience is limited by being on this drug. I was told that if I came off it I would most lightly become depressed again and lived in fear of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSRI_discontinuation_syndrome . Anyone thinking of staying long term on an SSRI should take 1 minute to have a look at Robert Whitaker's website. http://www.madinamerica.com/2011/11/depression-2/ . The bottom line is that the long term use of SSRIs causes a person to fare less well in life due to having a chemical imbalance in their brains (caused by the SSRI) and be MORE prone to depressive episodes in the future compared to someone who does not take SSRI medication.

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  • yzzlthtzyzzlthtz Registered User
    When I first started taking Welbutrin (I went on both that and Lexapro eventually since I've apparently been severely depressed since I was 8), I was playing Red Dead Redemption daily. The onset of these drugs caused uncomfortable hallucinations and waking dreams for me, and the RDR dream came at me several times: I was on a stagecoach driven by sick horses when, out of nowhere, these rocket-powered horses with bodies contorted and frozen in painful expressions appeared out of nowhere, bound to the stagecoach by a metal bar, propelling the stagecoach at a healthy pace across the sunset-lit desert.

    The Lexapro was gentler and came at me more like eyes smiling out of the mojoverse. The effect was immediately obvious - all the self medicating I'd done in order to properly socialize with human beings all made sense. Without these chemicals, who would, before the medication, like a manically depressed slut, seduce me and leave me reeling and desperate, actually talking to people or even facing my common abject fear of the world seemed totally impossible.

    But yeah, I am changed. I am still in there, in here, my basic views and sense of humor remain intact, but there is a missing depth of feeling, good and bad, like TB so eloquently described. With two drugs, the tunnel is narrower and covers more dimensions. I still believe firmly that there is work to be done on the body/mind that can supersede the need for the pills - work that may be impossible while on the drugs, but work that our culture and economy hardly leave us space and time to accomplish.

    * \m/
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