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What if the PS2 doesn't die?
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Seriously.
I've noticed something. Games are still coming out for the PS2. Now, I never really paid attention to how consoles phased out in the past, but then again, I was much younger and had my mind focused on other things. But by the time the Gamecube came out, the N64 was definitely dead. I don't remember any high profile games coming out on the Playstation after the PS2 was released.
The only other system to live well past it's shelf life was the Dreamcast (new titles this year!).
So, what's gonna happen to the PS3 if all of these high profile titles keep coming out on the PS2? God of War 2 just dropped for the casual gamers, and Atelier Iris 3 for the hardcore, and I seem to remember some other titles announced for the system with release dates well throughout 2007. Even Atlus has a new RPG coming out.
Now that Sony is gimping the PS3's backwards compatibility, it can't be used as a replacement PS2. Could that further stall PS3 sales?
Seems to be a weird situation. What's your opinion?
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I've noticed something. Games are still coming out for the PS2. Now, I never really paid attention to how consoles phased out in the past, but then again, I was much younger and had my mind focused on other things. But by the time the Gamecube came out, the N64 was definitely dead. I don't remember any high profile games coming out on the Playstation after the PS2 was released.
The only other system to live well past it's shelf life was the Dreamcast (new titles this year!).
So, what's gonna happen to the PS3 if all of these high profile titles keep coming out on the PS2? God of War 2 just dropped for the casual gamers, and Atelier Iris 3 for the hardcore, and I seem to remember some other titles announced for the system with release dates well throughout 2007. Even Atlus has a new RPG coming out.
Now that Sony is gimping the PS3's backwards compatibility, it can't be used as a replacement PS2. Could that further stall PS3 sales?
Seems to be a weird situation. What's your opinion?
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If, in three weeks time, the only games that play are Final Fantasy X2 and Harry Potter 2: Electric Boogaloo, then yes, I can see the PS2 continuing on as a strong platform. I don't see that happening though. Let's revisit the topic when we actually have a BC list.
Edit: Of course, Sony can do what Microsoft did and just kill the PS2 without BC for some titles. I'm looking at you, Beyond Good and Evil. Man, did I pick the wrong platform for that one.
The PS2 has an enormous user base.. I think people will keep buying it and buying games for it, but I really think that developers are just going to move on. The GBA had an enormous user base too, still going strong in sales, but developers and games went over to the DS and PSP within, what, like a year or so?
I do think, however, that the PS3's prohibitively expensive price will prevent people from jumping onto that bandwagon too soon; but I can see a lot of PS2 owners just simply remedying their next-gen appetite with a 360 and/or a Wii.
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No longer can I handle non-wireless controllers and non-HD games (mostly because they just look terrible on my TV)....sure, I'll miss a few titles, but GoWII is likely to be a very similar experience to GoW, and another Persona title just means another Atlus game I want to like but can't get into, so I'm ok with missing those.
I think 2007 will largely be the last year of new PS2 games (much like there were still a few PSX games coming out in 2000/2001)
I'm sure we'll see the same trend with the PS2. Its installed base is just too enormous to ignore.
Besides, God of War 2 is coming right up, and there are some other titles worth getting such as Sega Genesis Collection and Capcom Arcade Classics 2, plus that nifty package of the Metal Slug antology just as well.
If anything, I will keep those games and play them until Sony considers what woill happen with the PS3, or if I decide to get me a Wii instead.
That is, if I care enough to get either consle anyway, I think I am keeping my PS2 as the last console I will ever buy, besides the DS that is.
Yep. Plenty of games came out for the PS long after the introduction of the PS2, even if most of them weren't that noteworthy.
Though the trend could be strengthened somewhat... the PS2 was relatively inexpensive and looked yards better than the origami worlds pumped out by the PS. Now, the PS3 is prohibitively expensive, the visuals on the PS2 still look pretty good, and with the Xbox and Cube dead, there's really no other "cheap" competition (other than the Wii, which is different enough to possibly not be on the same level in buyers' minds). Maybe the PS2 will linger on more than the PS did.
He's had an Xbox for the past couple of years and has been perfectly happy with that. He had a bunch of games and really enjoyed it.
Recently, I got him to try Guitar Hero 2. And he was hooked. He'd go to the local Gamecrazy every day just to play the demo.
Eventually, he got enough money (by selling older Xbox games mostly) and bought a PS2, GH1 and GH2. And he's been insanely happy since. Every time I talk to him, he mentions how he was able to find an awesome game for like $5, a game that he missed out on because he only had an Xbox. In fact, he was excited because he picked up Gran Turismo 3 for $1. $1!!
Just because he waited until the end of the generation means that he gets top games, games that everyone happily paid $50 for when they came out, for cheap.
And then that lead to the discussion of buying previous gen games and game systems. I think I'm at a point where I don't need to buy any more systems to "get my fix." I have a Wii and a DS. There's plenty of games specifically for those two platforms that I want to play. But both are backwards compatible with a huge amount of games!
The Wii itself presents a Mecca of gaming. I've still got a ton of Gamecube games that I own that I need to play, and there are a ton more that I haven't picked up yet. Plus there's the Virtual Console. A couple of bucks and you can get games that at one point in time cost $50 that have plenty of gaming for your dollar.
So, I'm going to challenge myself. I have a limited amount of time, and already have way too many things to keep me occupied. I'm going to try to do this, but I know that I'll probably fail.
But I'm going to make the Wii my last game system purchase for a long time. I've got enough gamage to keep me happy for quite a while.
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So yeah. It's not too much to assume that the PS2 will stick around for a while longer, much like the PS1 did.
At the least, PS2 games will stick around, even if people play them on the PS3.
Sony is going to stop supporting it when current development is finished, no question about it. For them to continue supporting the PS2 would be incongruent with their overconfidence in the PS3, and financially risky.
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But historically, games like God of War 2 would be ported to the PS3, especially since its a Sony developed game. Not even Sony trusts its PS3 to make it money.
Consider this.
One of the reasons for the lack of third party support was because Sega prematurely killed off the Saturn in favor of the Dreamcast, upsetting Japanese developers who wanted to continue supporting the very successful (in Japan) Saturn.
Uhh..not in Japan they aren't.
Considering the volume of games they make or publish..I disagree.
* Wizardry: Tale of the Forsaken Land December 10th, 2001
* Skygunner June 25th, 2002
* Maken Shao: Demon Sword Unknown, 2002
* Dual Hearts September 23rd, 2002
* Disgaea: Hour of Darkness August 26th, 2003
* Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne October 14th, 2004
* Choro Q October 27th, 2004
* Stella Deus: The Gate of Eternity April 26th, 2005
* Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga April 5th, 2005
* Samurai Western June 7th, 2005
* Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga 2 October 4th, 2005
* Magna Carta: Tears of Blood November 16th, 2005
* Metal Saga April 25th, 2006
* Steambot Chronicles May 23rd, 2006
* Rule of Rose August 29, 2006
* Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner October 10, 2006
* Persona 3 June 2007
Except for the Shin Megami series, none of these game are particularly popular even in Japan.
The platform has such a massive install base, coupled with the abject failure of the PS3 ... Sony really can't afford to drop support yet.
I was gonna mention the Square releases after the PS2 hit but you beat me to it. I will however mention that one of my favorite PSone games was released after the PS2 hit: Arc the Lad Collection (04/18/02).
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Yeah, but when did it start development, 97?
For all of their asshattery, customer abuse, and outright lies, at least they followed through on this with the PSX. To follow up on K's comments, Madden got a 2005 release on the PSX.
Considering the installed base of the PS2, companies would be insane to completely drop development for a system with 100+ million sold (even if 80% of them have died olol), considering it's still selling like hotcakes.
Oh, if it'll piss off developers, then Sony will definitely do it.
Yeah. They're definitely dropping support soon, then.
It's just consistent with the pattern we're seeing in their behavior.
It had to have been at least 99 as thats when Arc 3 was released in Japan. I hadn't heard anything about Working Designs translating 1 and 2 seperately. I know it took then forever because Working Designs was always incredibly slow at releasing games and Arc 2 and 3 are extremely text heavy.
Yeah notice how the ps2 is like 60% of the stores selection? Its not gonna be dieing until that changes.
I never asked for this!
There's certainly not enough reason for me (and a ton of other people, apparently) to rush out and nab a PS3 yet, so I definitely don't see a stop to the flow of PS2 games anytime in the immediate future. And I hope it lasts for a while, because it'll be a while before I trade off my PS2 for it's awkward younger brother.
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Generally they do, however, some games are no compatible. Metal Gear Solid 3 and Burnout come to mind.;
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First off, EA and other multiplatform companies have recently stated how much of a mistake it was to drop PS1 support off so quickly and that they'll continue to support the PS2.
Secondly (and I really think this is the key), there are different consoles out at the moment. IMO there are currently two tiers to multiplatform development, the first is the PS3/360 and the second is the PS2/PSP/Wii (the DS is somewhere off to the left). Basically, the Wii will keep the PS2 alive as any Wii games from EA/Rockstar/Ubisoft will be ported to the PS2 (and PSP).
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Despite all the negative press, the system is doing really well so far. The games released for it are certainly keeping me busy, and it is a very well made piece of hardware that does a LOT considering what you pay for it. Anyway, enough of this anti-fanboy ramble.
The PS2 will be supported for a long time after the release of the PS3. It has nothing to do with this imaginary 'failure' of the PS3, but rather the fact that Sony knows how to do business. Unlike Nintendo which hacked off the legs of the 64 and Gamecube immediately after the successor comes out, or Microsoft which gutted it's original Xbox core base after the 360 came out, the PS2 will keep trucking long after GC's and Xbox's are painfully obsolete. It's not always a good plan to throw all your resources behind the newest system, especially if lots of people are still willing to support your old one. Be fair to your customers.
I believe so, yes.
Do we have confirmation that this is still coming? It's disappeared from our release listings at work.