My impression of Dota 2 solo-q is the same as the one I've got for LoL. While I've not played that much Dota yet, I've played a ton of LoL solo-q and I think the team-mate experience is very, very similar across the two games.
When I click play to go into it solo it's never, ever my goal to win the game. To try and achieve that goal is an excercise in frustration that's best avoided. I click the 'play' button with the goal of playing a perfect game, for myself. I don't care if my team-mate is going Scepter on Faceless Void because 'stats hurr durr' (I've not actually seen anyone do this, was just trying to think of an example of extreme retardation), as long as I've done my best to fulfill my own role within the game. As long as I've tried to do my best in a game, I can live with it. Sometimes things will click and you win, sometimes the other guy will be better than you and you lose. Shit happens.
This is the philosophy I try to use when doing solo-q, but I still sometimes crave that win with a passion.
In solo-q I like to play semi-carries or anti-carries that can roam from the side lane to gank. You get to help your team in a very effective way, but scale well if the game goes on late. Usually these are heroes with good early game stuns/snares.
For me these are:
Sven
Slardar
Brewmaster
Leshrac
Skeleton King
Skeleton King isn't a good a ganker as the rest of them because his stun isn't aoe and it's relatively low dmg at low lvls. But what I like about him is that he can jungle, and nothing the solo side lane player loves more than a jungler who can sneak in and throw down a nuke/stun at a crucial moment.
You should give Dragon Knight a try. He's more farm focused than ganking, but he makes ganks on his lane super easy with his big level 1 stun and surprise ranged stun at 6.
I have tried him, he's not a semi-carry he's a full on carry. And his stun is only melee range without ult and it does barely any damage, so even if you land a stun you're dependent on others to actually kill the guy. He's just kind of a sad little farmer early on, I don't like him.
I have tried him, he's not a semi-carry he's a full on carry. And his stun is only melee range without ult and it does barely any damage, so even if you land a stun you're dependent on others to actually kill the guy. He's just kind of a sad little farmer early on, I don't like him.
His stun doesn't do much damage, but his nuke does. Once he gets a Soul Ring he can harass most people out of the lane while he lives there forever with his regen.
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To whoever said random draft had better players in it:
No it doesn't, The same brand of vileness that permeate all pick is present in there.
Does Kunkka get health from his cleave damage with lifesteal?
Kunkka only leeches from the initial attack, the splash is all extra.
The strength of cleave is that it does pure damage based on the initial attack, so it's always best to attack the target with the lowest armour. It's the same with Lanaya's attack spill. And if Kunkka manages to hit an illusion the extra damage carries over as well, so hitting an illusion that takes 300% extra damage means that all of the splash will be pure damage based on 300% of his initial attack.
Does Kunkka get health from his cleave damage with lifesteal?
Kunkka only leech from the initial attack, the splash is all extra.
The best part of cleave is that it does pure damage based on the initial attack, which its always best to attack the target with the lowest armour. It's the same with Lanaya's attack spill. And if Kunkka manages to hit an illusion the extra damage carries over as well, so hitting an illusion that takes 300% extra damage means that all of the splash will be pure damage based on 300% of his initial attack.
Also, Kunkka is dumb.
So don't ever use manta style next to Kunkka, got it.
To whoever said random draft had better players in it:
No it doesn't, The same brand of vileness that permeate all pick is present in there.
random draft players 'try harder' usually - which means you can get shafted because the enemy team drafts well and your team first picks axe, everyone picks carry, people pick multiple junglers or whatever.
but the actual players are just going to be the same skill level as ap - not like the matchmaking gives you 'better' players, but perhaps more 'serious' players.
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Any tips for playing Tiny, guys? I like the look of him and want to try him out. As far as I understand it the combo is Avalanche-->Toss them back into the Avalanche area? And he's a good solo mid because he needs levels, and his order of items is something like boots of speed-->arcane boots-->blink dagger and then situational stuff, like BKB or aghanim's?
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To whoever said random draft had better players in it:
No it doesn't, The same brand of vileness that permeate all pick is present in there.
random draft players 'try harder' usually - which means you can get shafted because the enemy team drafts well and your team first picks axe, everyone picks carry, people pick multiple junglers or whatever.
but the actual players are just going to be the same skill level as ap - not like the matchmaking gives you 'better' players, but perhaps more 'serious' players.
It's cool really, I got better. Turns out a game where you have a guy dcing at start and then watching the enemy implode and ragequit one after the other is the perfect cure for mad.
Although, I'm not sure I get Lich's ult. Can'T get a good ult off with him, everytime I try it just bounces twice then decides to fuck off to a far away creep that just strayed in its area to die. And of course the enemy isn't dumb enough to stick together and do some pro split when I fire so welp
Any tips for playing Tiny, guys? I like the look of him and want to try him out. As far as I understand it the combo is Avalanche-->Toss them back into the Avalanche area? And he's a good solo mid because he needs levels, and his order of items is something like boots of speed-->arcane boots-->blink dagger and then situational stuff, like BKB or aghanim's?
My starting with Tiny is 2 mana pots, 2 stacks of tangos and 2 mantles (I'm almost always comboing with someone though). Grab Energy booster, then boots to make your mana boots, then go for blink/agh/ac/whathaveyou.Sell your mantles or finish off nulls if needed somewhere in there.
Does Kunkka get health from his cleave damage with lifesteal?
Kunkka only leeches from the initial attack, the splash is all extra.
The strength of cleave is that it does pure damage based on the initial attack, so it's always best to attack the target with the lowest armour. It's the same with Lanaya's attack spill. And if Kunkka manages to hit an illusion the extra damage carries over as well, so hitting an illusion that takes 300% extra damage means that all of the splash will be pure damage based on 300% of his initial attack.
Also, Kunkka is dumb.
Are you sure about Kunkka's splash interacting with lowered armor like that? I just tested it. Got around 150 damage on Kunkka, grabbed a medallion of courage, and tried it out on a creep wave. I did the same damage to splashed targets whether my primary target was debuffed with medallion or not.
Edit: pretty sure it doesn't work that way with illusions either. I just did another test, Kunkka and Dark Seer. Had Dark Seer leveled to six for his ult, had medallion on courage on Kunkka, bringing Dark Seer's armor down to 1. Tested a couple times just hitting Dark Seer with the medallion debuff. Did 120 damage. Tested again by having Dark Seer put up the wall, making a Kunkka illusion, using medallion on Dark Seer, and then hitting the illusion, splashing onto Dark Seer. Once again, 120 damage to Dark Seer.
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That's not optimism! Those are pubstomp heroes beyond even the levels of Ursa and AM.
I am the pubstomp
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(Mortred will make me rage considering my eyes are on the minimap more than they are on the game itself, but that's why I shall play her and crit like fuck)
Does Kunkka get health from his cleave damage with lifesteal?
Kunkka only leeches from the initial attack, the splash is all extra.
The strength of cleave is that it does pure damage based on the initial attack, so it's always best to attack the target with the lowest armour. It's the same with Lanaya's attack spill. And if Kunkka manages to hit an illusion the extra damage carries over as well, so hitting an illusion that takes 300% extra damage means that all of the splash will be pure damage based on 300% of his initial attack.
Also, Kunkka is dumb.
Are you sure about Kunkka's splash interacting with lowered armor like that? I just tested it. Got around 150 damage on Kunkka, grabbed a medallion of courage, and tried it out on a creep wave. I did the same damage to splashed targets whether my primary target was debuffed with medallion or not.
Edit: pretty sure it doesn't work that way with illusions either. I just did another test, Kunkka and Dark Seer. Had Dark Seer leveled to six for his ult, had medallion on courage on Kunkka, bringing Dark Seer's armor down to 1. Tested a couple times just hitting Dark Seer with the medallion debuff. Did 120 damage. Tested again by having Dark Seer put up the wall, making a Kunkka illusion, using medallion on Dark Seer, and then hitting the illusion, splashing onto Dark Seer. Once again, 120 damage to Dark Seer.
Hmm. Looks like I got it confused with cleave stacking and Lanaya's splash, which works completely differently.
Cleave is, in fact, based on a hero's damage vs that given armour type, not the actual damage they do. So a cleave attack that hits a weaker target will not do more damage than the actual attack can do. But cleave instances still stack independently, which means that each source of cleave is its own damage instance. Which is why the best pub Kunkka build is 5 battlefuries and a rapier.
Lanaya, on the other hand, does line splash based solely on the actual damage that attack does. So if Lanaya hits an illusion the attack will be amplified by the damage the illusion takes.
Hmm, think I preferred the old layout for the stats table (where your armor, AD, agi, int, str etc is shown) but everything on the right side looks nice.
I'm still kind of annoyed that they're hiding that actual damage ranges. That stuff is more important when heroes like Chaos Knight get added.
And I wonder if they'll actually fix Lanaya's splash in dota 2. I believe it's hard coded in wc3 and for that it's actually really buggy--the coding makes it so the next Lanaya does after initiating her attack will line splash as pure, but that doesn't have to actually be her attack. It's possible to attack a target then immediately dagon, and since item's are instant cast the dagon will hit first and that will splash instead of her attack. This has been a known bug in wc3 since forever and I'm pretty sure it's impossible to fix, but also so pointless and almost useless that nobody really cares. (Same with her being able to purge illusions for instant kills).
I knew I wasn't crazy! Because I actually play Lanaya and never play Kunkka, so I know about the illusion splash and just assumed it worked the same. And I know I've seen Lanaya's illusion splash before in videos.
Having a glyph of fortification that isn't super small and the courier area are nice. Should hopefully result in the courier being stolen accidentally less often.
Does Kunkka get health from his cleave damage with lifesteal?
Kunkka only leeches from the initial attack, the splash is all extra.
The strength of cleave is that it does pure damage based on the initial attack, so it's always best to attack the target with the lowest armour. It's the same with Lanaya's attack spill. And if Kunkka manages to hit an illusion the extra damage carries over as well, so hitting an illusion that takes 300% extra damage means that all of the splash will be pure damage based on 300% of his initial attack.
Also, Kunkka is dumb.
Are you sure about Kunkka's splash interacting with lowered armor like that? I just tested it. Got around 150 damage on Kunkka, grabbed a medallion of courage, and tried it out on a creep wave. I did the same damage to splashed targets whether my primary target was debuffed with medallion or not.
Edit: pretty sure it doesn't work that way with illusions either. I just did another test, Kunkka and Dark Seer. Had Dark Seer leveled to six for his ult, had medallion on courage on Kunkka, bringing Dark Seer's armor down to 1. Tested a couple times just hitting Dark Seer with the medallion debuff. Did 120 damage. Tested again by having Dark Seer put up the wall, making a Kunkka illusion, using medallion on Dark Seer, and then hitting the illusion, splashing onto Dark Seer. Once again, 120 damage to Dark Seer.
Hmm. Looks like I got it confused with cleave stacking and Lanaya's splash, which works completely differently.
Cleave is, in fact, based on a hero's damage vs that given armour type, not the actual damage they do. So a cleave attack that hits a weaker target will not do more damage than the actual attack can do. But cleave instances still stack independently, which means that each source of cleave is its own damage instance. Which is why the best pub Kunkka build is 5 battlefuries and a rapier.
Lanaya, on the other hand, does line splash based solely on the actual damage that attack does. So if Lanaya hits an illusion the attack will be amplified by the damage the illusion takes.
This is why I fail at dota!
That makes sense. Kunkka's splash being amped up by illusions would be nuts. I didn't play Dota1, so I'm not familiar with Lanaya, but it sounds like she could have a lot of fun with that as well.
I didn't like the dota 2 items to begin with, and I really don't like the new ones. But Icefrog says they're still works in progress, so there will be plenty of feedback about how awful they look.
However!
- Fixed bug that would sometimes cause move commands or abilities to execute at odd times.
Dagon and Necro get progressively better/more badass looking with each level. Makes it easier to tell what level someone has at a glance now, so thats nice.
No new hero this week, so I guess I'll just quote Axe some more for the title change.
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yeah you want that ranged mid semi-carry usually. I like QOP for that role.
Tiny if you're good with him used to be able to take over games too.
This is the philosophy I try to use when doing solo-q, but I still sometimes crave that win with a passion.
For me these are:
Sven
Slardar
Brewmaster
Leshrac
Skeleton King
Skeleton King isn't a good a ganker as the rest of them because his stun isn't aoe and it's relatively low dmg at low lvls. But what I like about him is that he can jungle, and nothing the solo side lane player loves more than a jungler who can sneak in and throw down a nuke/stun at a crucial moment.
The splash damage Dragon Knight deals with Dragon Form an exception to the rule.
His stun doesn't do much damage, but his nuke does. Once he gets a Soul Ring he can harass most people out of the lane while he lives there forever with his regen.
No it doesn't, The same brand of vileness that permeate all pick is present in there.
Kunkka only leeches from the initial attack, the splash is all extra.
The strength of cleave is that it does pure damage based on the initial attack, so it's always best to attack the target with the lowest armour. It's the same with Lanaya's attack spill. And if Kunkka manages to hit an illusion the extra damage carries over as well, so hitting an illusion that takes 300% extra damage means that all of the splash will be pure damage based on 300% of his initial attack.
Also, Kunkka is dumb.
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So don't ever use manta style next to Kunkka, got it.
but the actual players are just going to be the same skill level as ap - not like the matchmaking gives you 'better' players, but perhaps more 'serious' players.
It's cool really, I got better. Turns out a game where you have a guy dcing at start and then watching the enemy implode and ragequit one after the other is the perfect cure for mad.
Although, I'm not sure I get Lich's ult. Can'T get a good ult off with him, everytime I try it just bounces twice then decides to fuck off to a far away creep that just strayed in its area to die. And of course the enemy isn't dumb enough to stick together and do some pro split when I fire so welp
My starting with Tiny is 2 mana pots, 2 stacks of tangos and 2 mantles (I'm almost always comboing with someone though). Grab Energy booster, then boots to make your mana boots, then go for blink/agh/ac/whathaveyou.Sell your mantles or finish off nulls if needed somewhere in there.
I want to test my phantom lancing, dammit
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Are you sure about Kunkka's splash interacting with lowered armor like that? I just tested it. Got around 150 damage on Kunkka, grabbed a medallion of courage, and tried it out on a creep wave. I did the same damage to splashed targets whether my primary target was debuffed with medallion or not.
Edit: pretty sure it doesn't work that way with illusions either. I just did another test, Kunkka and Dark Seer. Had Dark Seer leveled to six for his ult, had medallion on courage on Kunkka, bringing Dark Seer's armor down to 1. Tested a couple times just hitting Dark Seer with the medallion debuff. Did 120 damage. Tested again by having Dark Seer put up the wall, making a Kunkka illusion, using medallion on Dark Seer, and then hitting the illusion, splashing onto Dark Seer. Once again, 120 damage to Dark Seer.
I am the pubstomp
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(Mortred will make me rage considering my eyes are on the minimap more than they are on the game itself, but that's why I shall play her and crit like fuck)
http://store.steampowered.com/news/7830/
EDIT: Says there's a new HUD, though.
Also: (spoilered for hugeness)
Hmm. Looks like I got it confused with cleave stacking and Lanaya's splash, which works completely differently.
Cleave is, in fact, based on a hero's damage vs that given armour type, not the actual damage they do. So a cleave attack that hits a weaker target will not do more damage than the actual attack can do. But cleave instances still stack independently, which means that each source of cleave is its own damage instance. Which is why the best pub Kunkka build is 5 battlefuries and a rapier.
Lanaya, on the other hand, does line splash based solely on the actual damage that attack does. So if Lanaya hits an illusion the attack will be amplified by the damage the illusion takes.
This is why I fail at dota!
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And I wonder if they'll actually fix Lanaya's splash in dota 2. I believe it's hard coded in wc3 and for that it's actually really buggy--the coding makes it so the next Lanaya does after initiating her attack will line splash as pure, but that doesn't have to actually be her attack. It's possible to attack a target then immediately dagon, and since item's are instant cast the dagon will hit first and that will splash instead of her attack. This has been a known bug in wc3 since forever and I'm pretty sure it's impossible to fix, but also so pointless and almost useless that nobody really cares. (Same with her being able to purge illusions for instant kills).
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That makes sense. Kunkka's splash being amped up by illusions would be nuts. I didn't play Dota1, so I'm not familiar with Lanaya, but it sounds like she could have a lot of fun with that as well.
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-Some heroes will now call out to allies they encounter in the field during the early phases of a game.
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I disagree, think they look great. Couple still need work, but they said theyre doing passes on them over the next few weeks, so they'll get better.
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No new hero this week, so I guess I'll just quote Axe some more for the title change.
Edit: Hey there Lion, how's itOH GOD WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUR FACE