Star Trek TOS was a big part of my childhood, and Spock the central part..
For a little boy with distant parents who just didn't have much time, Spock was a wonderful character to identify with.. It showed me that distant people can still be caring people, strong people that care for you.
I'm sad that he is dead, really sad. But I am happy that he lived a great life and inspired so many people.
I grew up with Star Trek. One of my first memories is watching the premiere of Encounter at Farpoint with my mom. I didn't really know TOS, or understand its appeal, for a long time. Then came the Spock episodes of TNG, and there was a curiosity sparked.
Leonard Nimoy held many roles throughout his life, but it is no small thing to say that he was, and ever will be, Spock. The world lost a hell of an actor today, but for those of us who escaped into a future not quite so distant and a galaxy not so far away he was a reminder of what it meant to be human. To cherish your friends, and love them. To be kind and decent, to a fault. And, always, to wish others to live long and prosper.
Losing Leonard Nimoy is going to go down as the hardest loss this year(I hope). He was such a towering figure. His Spock showed that logical didn't mean robotic, but calm and rational.
I will miss him and Spock both.
The sky was full of stars, every star an exploding ship. One of ours.
Tis sad day. We've lost a SciFi great. I'm enjoying some of the stuff that is surfacing because of this though. Apparently Mr. Nimoy did a commercial for my city phone company back in the 80s.
Spock and Nimoy were truly one of a kind. Even characters that resembled him were merely iterations.
Fascinating.
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AbsoluteZeroThe new film by Quentin KoopantinoRegistered Userregular
None of my co-workers knew who he was. They probably think Zachary Quinto died. Ugh.
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edited February 2015
I didn't find out until I got home from work. Sad I was no busy with work today that I didn't even have time to browse the usual sites. I hope he goes wherever it is that be believed he would go when he died. If there is one person who needs a proper burial in space, it's Nemoy.
CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Spock’s death was shot over three days, during which no visitors were allowed on set.Spock’s death was to be irrevocable, but Nimoy had such a positive experience during filming that he asked if he could add a way for Spock to return in a later film. (x)
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Thank you Mr. Nimoy, you inspired us to live among the stars, to live long and to prosper.
When I was a child I watched Nimoy on this series called 'In Search of...'. It was a silly program (bigfoot, UFOs, etc), but it creeped me out back then. In part, I think this was Nimoy's talent and skill in varying his cadence. He was pretty good at creepy (along with the bgm), like some dark lore master. Partly because listening to Nimoy is to listen to someone that sounds like they know what they're talking about. Served him well for Civ IV too.
I learned how to arch my eyebrow when I was a kid because of Spock. :sad:
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Yanno, normally I read about a celebrity death and go "damn, that sucks" but fucking hell, Nimoy being gone just keeps eating at the back of my head. Star Trek has been such a big part of my life that it's like losing a cool uncle. Every single time one of the crew passes it's just a god damn blow.
So, trying not to let this be the most depressing Trek thread, I bring you a controversial opinion:
I like Pulaski.
I don't feel like she's hateful or particularly petty with Data. She just seems to have some definite stances which would not be borne out by the series as it progressed.
Other than that, she's a much more... living character than Crusher.
Also, Riker's a badass, all being a bro to Klingons and such.
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Pulaski is a complete and total dick with Data. Deep bitter sarcasm is all the worse when you're aiming it at someone who doesn't understand sarcasm. It just makes you look like a poison pill while they remain a puppy dog.
"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
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Pulaski is a complete and total dick with Data. Deep bitter sarcasm is all the worse when you're aiming it at someone who doesn't understand sarcasm. It just makes you look like a poison pill while they remain a puppy dog.
They were going for a Spock/Bones sort of relationship. I agree, though. Since Data was never a dick like Spock and didn't fight back like Spock, it was more like kicking a puppy. Spock had over 100 years of experience to Data's 16. Spock always played his emotions close to his chest and used it to great effect when verbally sparring with Bones. Data just stood there confused most of the time.
What I really want to know is what the Enterprise's central computer and Data would talk about. I bet they could spend many tPs(planck time unit) exchanging their musing on the meatbags they spend all day with.
CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
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Oh yeah, I got what they were going for, and also why it didn't work. Maybe they should have tried Pulaski vs Picard. Or maybe Pulaski the professional vs Troy the incompetent. I would have probably loved her, then.
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"If you divide the whole world into just enemies and friends, you'll end up destroying everything" --Nausicaa of the Valley of Wind
Data has actually been active between 26 to 30 years by the beginning of TNG. He was in Starfleet for over 20 years. He also had the memories of all the people on the Omicron Theta colony uploaded into his brain. So it was pretty ridiculous how naive Data was in TNG considering how he already spent years around humans. It was just dumb how he didn't even recognize basic slang and expressions.
Data has actually been active between 26 to 30 years by the beginning of TNG. He was in Starfleet for over 20 years. He also had the memories of all the people on the Omicron Theta colony uploaded into his brain. So it was pretty ridiculous how naive Data was in TNG considering how he already spent years around humans. It was just dumb how he didn't even recognize basic slang and expressions.
Yes, but as they emphasized on the show, there is a difference between knowing, and understanding. Though it's McGuffin technology, the premise behind Data's brain was that the positronic brain 'grew' much in the same way a human's did, forming neural connections that became more durable the more they were used. Having the knowledge was not nearly as useful as understanding it.
I liken it to IBM's Watson supercomputer. It has access to the entire internet, but despite that, it takes dozens of coders thousands of hours to make Watson 'understand' even the most basest of things. There was a fairly hilarious article regarding the work involved when they uploaded Urban Dictionary to Watson's core knowledge base.
Pulaski is a complete and total dick with Data. Deep bitter sarcasm is all the worse when you're aiming it at someone who doesn't understand sarcasm. It just makes you look like a poison pill while they remain a puppy dog.
I've been watching recently, which is why I made the comment.
I've probably got some episodes coming up where I'll be compelled to hate Pulaski. but the last episode I watched featuring her was the one where she gets Old-sick from the superhuman kids. She's actually almost kinda sweet to Data at points in that episode.
Before that, there of course was "Elementary, My Dear Data," in which she acted like a chode.
BUT! I don't think, even in the limited time the character is around, she's really any worse as a bro than Worf or Yarr or even Riker at times.
The problem, imo, with the Pulaski/Data thing is that the writers try to do the Bones/Spock thing while not underestanding the fundamental difference between Spock and Data.
Spock acts like a grown-up, Data is much more child-like. More importantly in some ways, and linked to the above, Spock chooses to not feel emotions. Data just can't.
So when Bones gives Spock shit for being an emotionless monster, he's ragging on his lifestyle choices. He's saying that emotions are good and your adherence to logic and only logic is bad. And then they argue. And Spock gives McCoy the fucking eyebrow. When Polaski rags on Data, it's for what he is. It's for things he can't change or in some cases even wants to change. She is literally beating on a cripple.
Data has actually been active between 26 to 30 years by the beginning of TNG. He was in Starfleet for over 20 years. He also had the memories of all the people on the Omicron Theta colony uploaded into his brain. So it was pretty ridiculous how naive Data was in TNG considering how he already spent years around humans. It was just dumb how he didn't even recognize basic slang and expressions.
Yes, but as they emphasized on the show, there is a difference between knowing, and understanding. Though it's McGuffin technology, the premise behind Data's brain was that the positronic brain 'grew' much in the same way a human's did, forming neural connections that became more durable the more they were used. Having the knowledge was not nearly as useful as understanding it.
I liken it to IBM's Watson supercomputer. It has access to the entire internet, but despite that, it takes dozens of coders thousands of hours to make Watson 'understand' even the most basest of things. There was a fairly hilarious article regarding the work involved when they uploaded Urban Dictionary to Watson's core knowledge base.
I also remember reading about some of the weird misconceptions it developed, like that Star Wars happened in England due to the number of people there declaring their religion to be Jedi.
People tend to think information+intelligence=smart, but they're missing a key part of the equation: critical thinking skills. Without those, information is a trap. Conspiracy theorists are one example of what happens when an intelligence mind with poor critical thinking gains access to a large amount of unfiltered, context-free information.
Data's lucky he was how he was. Seven of Nine did basically the same thing, filling her mind with more data than she could understand at once, and took a running dive off the deep end as a result.
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Fuck.
"I have been and shall always be your friend."
Or just simply "KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!"
"If I was on the bridge of the Starship Enterprise I would stay there and never leave."
"Trust me, it gets old after a while."
Decades of emotion in that line reading. People forget: When he got cast as Spock, he was teaching Method acting.
EVERYBODY WANTS TO SIT IN THE BIG CHAIR, MEG!
Now I'm getting all teary-eyed at work.
For a little boy with distant parents who just didn't have much time, Spock was a wonderful character to identify with.. It showed me that distant people can still be caring people, strong people that care for you.
I'm sad that he is dead, really sad. But I am happy that he lived a great life and inspired so many people.
Thank you, and good bye
Rest well Mr. Nimoy. Rest well.
Leonard Nimoy held many roles throughout his life, but it is no small thing to say that he was, and ever will be, Spock. The world lost a hell of an actor today, but for those of us who escaped into a future not quite so distant and a galaxy not so far away he was a reminder of what it meant to be human. To cherish your friends, and love them. To be kind and decent, to a fault. And, always, to wish others to live long and prosper.
Losing Leonard Nimoy is going to go down as the hardest loss this year(I hope). He was such a towering figure. His Spock showed that logical didn't mean robotic, but calm and rational.
I will miss him and Spock both.
He does have a habit of popping up in Canadian telecom commercials
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Fascinating.
Fuck.
Get out.
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Yanno, normally I read about a celebrity death and go "damn, that sucks" but fucking hell, Nimoy being gone just keeps eating at the back of my head. Star Trek has been such a big part of my life that it's like losing a cool uncle. Every single time one of the crew passes it's just a god damn blow.
Fuck.
I like Pulaski.
I don't feel like she's hateful or particularly petty with Data. She just seems to have some definite stances which would not be borne out by the series as it progressed.
Other than that, she's a much more... living character than Crusher.
Also, Riker's a badass, all being a bro to Klingons and such.
They were going for a Spock/Bones sort of relationship. I agree, though. Since Data was never a dick like Spock and didn't fight back like Spock, it was more like kicking a puppy. Spock had over 100 years of experience to Data's 16. Spock always played his emotions close to his chest and used it to great effect when verbally sparring with Bones. Data just stood there confused most of the time.
What I really want to know is what the Enterprise's central computer and Data would talk about. I bet they could spend many tPs(planck time unit) exchanging their musing on the meatbags they spend all day with.
But ultimately it was also a case of a show only being able to support so many recurring characters.
Yes, but as they emphasized on the show, there is a difference between knowing, and understanding. Though it's McGuffin technology, the premise behind Data's brain was that the positronic brain 'grew' much in the same way a human's did, forming neural connections that became more durable the more they were used. Having the knowledge was not nearly as useful as understanding it.
I liken it to IBM's Watson supercomputer. It has access to the entire internet, but despite that, it takes dozens of coders thousands of hours to make Watson 'understand' even the most basest of things. There was a fairly hilarious article regarding the work involved when they uploaded Urban Dictionary to Watson's core knowledge base.
I've been watching recently, which is why I made the comment.
I've probably got some episodes coming up where I'll be compelled to hate Pulaski. but the last episode I watched featuring her was the one where she gets Old-sick from the superhuman kids. She's actually almost kinda sweet to Data at points in that episode.
Before that, there of course was "Elementary, My Dear Data," in which she acted like a chode.
BUT! I don't think, even in the limited time the character is around, she's really any worse as a bro than Worf or Yarr or even Riker at times.
Spock acts like a grown-up, Data is much more child-like. More importantly in some ways, and linked to the above, Spock chooses to not feel emotions. Data just can't.
So when Bones gives Spock shit for being an emotionless monster, he's ragging on his lifestyle choices. He's saying that emotions are good and your adherence to logic and only logic is bad. And then they argue. And Spock gives McCoy the fucking eyebrow. When Polaski rags on Data, it's for what he is. It's for things he can't change or in some cases even wants to change. She is literally beating on a cripple.
I also remember reading about some of the weird misconceptions it developed, like that Star Wars happened in England due to the number of people there declaring their religion to be Jedi.
People tend to think information+intelligence=smart, but they're missing a key part of the equation: critical thinking skills. Without those, information is a trap. Conspiracy theorists are one example of what happens when an intelligence mind with poor critical thinking gains access to a large amount of unfiltered, context-free information.
Data's lucky he was how he was. Seven of Nine did basically the same thing, filling her mind with more data than she could understand at once, and took a running dive off the deep end as a result.