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I've been sick lately, and with not much else to do I burned through the first eight episodes of Gracepoint that have been piling up on my DVR.
So now I shall share my thoughts.
Let me start by referencing the Season 11 premiere of the Simpsons, "Beyond Blunderdome." It's the episode where Homer helps Mel Gibson make a movie. One of Homer's many suggestions is to have an evil dog that the audience knows is evil because of a close-up on it's shifty eyes.
Why do I bring it up? Because damn near every character in Gracepoint has a "shifty-eyed dog" moment, and as ridiculous as that is I actually kind of like it.
They are at least keeping their suspect list open until the very end and being very slow to rule people out (and even then, usually not entirely), but it does feel a little like treading water sometimes. Perhaps that's because this version is two episodes longer than the British version?
I've never seen Broadchurch, and have been avoiding reading anything about either series to avoid spoilers, but I think I already pegged the killer by the second episode (granted, since the two shows apparently have very similar beginnings but different endings, it's entirely possible that I merely pegged the killer for the other version).
The frustrating part is that I didn't figure it out based on clues in the episode (if I'm right), but instead based on how it was written and shot and such which always feels a little more like a let down but seems to happen more often now a days.
Anyways, there aren't really a lot of likable characters in this series. I guess they're trying to show that everyone is flawed and everyone has dark secrets and your happy little town never is that, but that always comes across as very cynical to me.
I'm also not sure how well that will go over with audiences who generally want to see characters they don't like get their "comeuppance" and everyone is going to have their own character they dislike more than the others but all of them can't be the killer so a lot of people are going to get disappointed with their pet hated character going unpunished (or at least receiving a lesser punishment than whatever the killer receives, since the killer plot is the main plot that the other misdeeds take a back seat to).
All in all, it's going to all come down to how well they stick the landing and tie up all the different character stories. Hopefully since they changed the ending, it's not something they just threw in to shock people familiar with the original version just to throw them off or something.
Though speaking of the changed ending, considering how episode 8 ended with...
Detective Carver collapsing to the ground and exclaiming, "I'm dying," I would be totally okay if the change turns out to be that episode 9 begins with Detective Carver standing back up--now played by Matt Smith--and energetically charging after the hooded person and then solving the case with a big bombastic speech.
I think it was one of my favorite episodes of that show and had one, if not the, best Bob moments that show has done.
Him drinking at home alone.
"Hey daytime whisky, wanna meet my CD collection? I feel like you guys would hit it off. Ooh Donna Summers." And then talking to the baster.
I think it was one of my favorite episodes of that show and had one, if not the, best Bob moments that show has done.
Him drinking at home alone.
"Hey daytime whisky, wanna meet my CD collection? I feel like you guys would hit it off. Ooh Donna Summers." And then talking to the baster.
I think the best (only) way to enjoy it is as a surface level diversion for 3 episodes and then don't think about it again for another year and a half until we get another 3 episodes.
Also never engage in any sort of online discussion about it.
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Was rewatching Parks and Rec, and one episode has been bugging me. The episode where Ron is being charged by Jamm.
Why do they even have to do the whole trick Jamm into dropping the charges thing. I always think, when Ron gives his statement, that he both warned Jamm, and that Jamm hit him first, Jamm's lawyer would just facepalm and glare at Jamm and that it should end right there?
Was rewatching Parks and Rec, and one episode has been bugging me. The episode where Ron is being charged by Jamm.
Why do they even have to do the whole trick Jamm into dropping the charges thing. I always think, when Ron gives his statement, that he both warned Jamm, and that Jamm hit him first, Jamm's lawyer would just facepalm and glare at Jamm and that it should end right there?
Like at that point isn't it just self defense?
I'm not saying you don't have a point, but this is not the first nor last leap of logic that the show asks you to take for comedy's sake
Was rewatching Parks and Rec, and one episode has been bugging me. The episode where Ron is being charged by Jamm.
Why do they even have to do the whole trick Jamm into dropping the charges thing. I always think, when Ron gives his statement, that he both warned Jamm, and that Jamm hit him first, Jamm's lawyer would just facepalm and glare at Jamm and that it should end right there?
Like at that point isn't it just self defense?
I'm not saying you don't have a point, but this is not the first nor last leap of logic that the show asks you to take for comedy's sake
Oh I know, and not sure why this one specific one getting to me, but it is!
This is one of the worst aspects of S6. Taking what should be a really compelling plot and turning it into "Magic = drugs. Geddit? No really, do you??? It's drugs!!!"
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Back then I thought it was a bit edgy and had a good point. These days on reflection all I can think is that boy, the writers really didn't understand addiction at all.
welcome to the part of the series where they fuck up a really good character arc with a hamfisted addiction metaphor
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Marti Noxon was...well, I said before that I think she was better in the early seasons. "The Wish" is an all-time favorite. Her later stuff is...less good (that was her that wrote "Wrecked," aka the one I assume Psykoma just saw where Willow goes on a great big magic bender after getting questionable magic stuff from her magic dealer and then quits and has magic withdrawals.
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So now I shall share my thoughts.
Let me start by referencing the Season 11 premiere of the Simpsons, "Beyond Blunderdome." It's the episode where Homer helps Mel Gibson make a movie. One of Homer's many suggestions is to have an evil dog that the audience knows is evil because of a close-up on it's shifty eyes.
Why do I bring it up? Because damn near every character in Gracepoint has a "shifty-eyed dog" moment, and as ridiculous as that is I actually kind of like it.
They are at least keeping their suspect list open until the very end and being very slow to rule people out (and even then, usually not entirely), but it does feel a little like treading water sometimes. Perhaps that's because this version is two episodes longer than the British version?
I've never seen Broadchurch, and have been avoiding reading anything about either series to avoid spoilers, but I think I already pegged the killer by the second episode (granted, since the two shows apparently have very similar beginnings but different endings, it's entirely possible that I merely pegged the killer for the other version).
The frustrating part is that I didn't figure it out based on clues in the episode (if I'm right), but instead based on how it was written and shot and such which always feels a little more like a let down but seems to happen more often now a days.
Anyways, there aren't really a lot of likable characters in this series. I guess they're trying to show that everyone is flawed and everyone has dark secrets and your happy little town never is that, but that always comes across as very cynical to me.
I'm also not sure how well that will go over with audiences who generally want to see characters they don't like get their "comeuppance" and everyone is going to have their own character they dislike more than the others but all of them can't be the killer so a lot of people are going to get disappointed with their pet hated character going unpunished (or at least receiving a lesser punishment than whatever the killer receives, since the killer plot is the main plot that the other misdeeds take a back seat to).
All in all, it's going to all come down to how well they stick the landing and tie up all the different character stories. Hopefully since they changed the ending, it's not something they just threw in to shock people familiar with the original version just to throw them off or something.
Though speaking of the changed ending, considering how episode 8 ended with...
I think it was one of my favorite episodes of that show and had one, if not the, best Bob moments that show has done.
"Hey daytime whisky, wanna meet my CD collection? I feel like you guys would hit it off. Ooh Donna Summers." And then talking to the baster.
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I think the best (only) way to enjoy it is as a surface level diversion for 3 episodes and then don't think about it again for another year and a half until we get another 3 episodes.
Also never engage in any sort of online discussion about it.
Start it on Netflix, go "these episodes are HOW MANY MINUTES LONG???" and close it and have not watched it still
Like at that point isn't it just self defense?
I'm not saying you don't have a point, but this is not the first nor last leap of logic that the show asks you to take for comedy's sake
Oh I know, and not sure why this one specific one getting to me, but it is!
welcome to the part of the series where they fuck up a really good character arc with a hamfisted addiction metaphor
This is one of the worst aspects of S6. Taking what should be a really compelling plot and turning it into "Magic = drugs. Geddit? No really, do you??? It's drugs!!!"
Marti Noxon is a pox.
Marti Noxon was infamous in certain parts of the fandom for describing the show as "Party of Five with monsters."
Interestred in seeing what other demon powers she gets than levitation