Anyway, that's all for me for now. Good games, Munkus.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Good games, Gundi.
I was really, really salty that the rest failed.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
@Wyborn when I get back from the lake I wanna fight your Sheik, I've got a friend who is hella good with her so I should be able to give you a solid workout.
It'd be a shame if someone were to randomly join your guys' fight.
I bluffed. Got a FG game with Snoop Dawg.
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I am here.
To.
Smash.
Humor can be dissected as a frog can, but dies in the process.
Yes but you're talking about the character considered so good she has been nerfed every single patch and she's still easily in the top five best characters. But saying Shiek just nullifies Duck Hunt completely? Well, no. Although probably with perfect play Duck should die without getting a single hit in. And if Duck Hunt plays Ness he should die without getting a single hit in. Or Rosalina. Etc.
Also no you aren't half as good with Sheik as you are with Ganon. Sheik is just that good of a character. I picked up the character, SD-ed twice because I no so little about Sheik I don't know what direction her specials are on, and I still held my own against you perfectly fine. And I'm being honest when I say... you have a great Ganon, but you have a basically totally average Sheik.
Like the fact that me just picking up Sheik and having absolutely no idea how to play her and I still feel like I'm getting the same results (Assuming I stop SDing, which will happen quickly,) as characters I spent hours and hours and hours learning is actually really bothering me.
But, man, I am pretty salty about this Sheik thing. Not at you, just, at the game. Cause seriously I don't even know her moves (I kept assuming the dolphin kick was side b) and I started beating up your Ganon and your Sheik easier than I do with Ryu or Duck Hunt. Honestly, that's kind of infuriating.
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Sheik is easy to use. Ryu and Duck Hunt are hard to use. They have similar barriers in terms of mastery, but you will get better with Sheik faster than the others.
Ganon on the other hand has a low barrier of mastery, relative to everyone else - I'm probably as good with him as I'm ever goign to get, which is just competent due to my limitations as a player.
But I still beat people up as him pretty good, which is all I really want.
So help me God I will BAir you off the stage until you learn to stop picking the Duck Hunt level.
Shiek easily gives me the most trouble of any character. Playing slow and heavy fighters pretty much means I have to play several steps ahead of a competent Shiek so I can actually hit them.
The one weakness I've found of hers is her lack of killing power. The moves you have to look out for are:
Her recovery, Uair, Upsmash, and a jumping fish edgeguard. Have that last one in the front of your mind as it's constantly being used.
Even with Rage she'd have to have you at like 150% to make that a kill move, and at that point any hit from a heavy will smoke her
I'm still working out what her kills are but I'm starting to intuit that it's Jumping Fish, FSmash punish, sweet spot USmash, and "hit them and never stop hititng them so they die"
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I was really, really salty that the rest failed.
Damn it, I'll fight you.
Also make Ryu stop screaming Gundi
I bluffed. Got a FG game with Snoop Dawg.
To.
Smash.
Sheik does not care about Duck Hunt
Are you telling me her moveset isn't a lot better for killing Duck Hunt?
And I think we disagree about the gulfs between characters
My Sheik two-stocking your Duck Hunt in the first match does indicate a few things baout that matchup
Bring your dog and let's do this main to main
But, man, I am pretty salty about this Sheik thing. Not at you, just, at the game. Cause seriously I don't even know her moves (I kept assuming the dolphin kick was side b) and I started beating up your Ganon and your Sheik easier than I do with Ryu or Duck Hunt. Honestly, that's kind of infuriating.
I miss her being attached to Zelda
Ganon on the other hand has a low barrier of mastery, relative to everyone else - I'm probably as good with him as I'm ever goign to get, which is just competent due to my limitations as a player.
But I still beat people up as him pretty good, which is all I really want.
So help me God I will BAir you off the stage until you learn to stop picking the Duck Hunt level.
Honestly she's got such a good move to replace the transformation that I'm more than OK with it
The one weakness I've found of hers is her lack of killing power. The moves you have to look out for are:
Her recovery, Uair, Upsmash, and a jumping fish edgeguard. Have that last one in the front of your mind as it's constantly being used.
Even with Rage she'd have to have you at like 150% to make that a kill move, and at that point any hit from a heavy will smoke her
I'm still working out what her kills are but I'm starting to intuit that it's Jumping Fish, FSmash punish, sweet spot USmash, and "hit them and never stop hititng them so they die"
She can also stage spike someone with her Bair since it comes out so damn fast.