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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Like, it doesn't even seem to tonally follow from Man of Steel.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I could listen to Jeremy Irons narrate all day. Too bad they only let him do 20 seconds of the trailer.

    Fake Bat-voice is terrible.

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Like, it doesn't even seem to tonally follow from Man of Steel.

    Aparantly they left out the part at the end of the film where the world goes full distopia.

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    shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

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    jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    Wow anger that hatred looks tragedy like power total corruption shit lying.

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    QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    I love that shot.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    Nah there is another shot in the trailer with the engines of one of the ships and the layout looks like a super star destroyer.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    It would have been pretty cool/horrible if Jakku was actually one of endors moons and all the ships and desert were from the huge space battle that took place above it.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    MarauderMarauder Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    Nah there is another shot in the trailer with the engines of one of the ships and the layout looks like a super star destroyer.

    Yeah, at 1:26...it looks like an SSD that landed belly up.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Supposedly... spoiler/speculation from what I read online.

    The super star destroyer is han's old ship, and might be where they find the millenium falcon still nestled away in a hanger bay somewhere. I have to say from what I've heard about the plot I'm already sold, if only because no fucking dumb kids and its already going for a more serious story.

    And that little soccer ball droid is the best, just the best fuck the haters!

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    They mean the shot where the Millennium Falcon flies into the engine of the wreckage. It's a different wreck from the gif you linked here.

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    davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    There are haters of BB8? I'll meet them in the alley. :fightfightfight:

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    There are haters of BB8? I'll meet them in the alley. :fightfightfight:

    I think he looks gimmickey and impractical.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Well before people knew it was a real practical effect and thought it was just cgi bull for cgi sake. Honestly BB8 makes sense as a droid for mobility sake, the ball would totally have better ability to get in and out of things faster.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Yeah in the teaser it leans around a corner, being both adorable and practical at the same time.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    There are haters of BB8? I'll meet them in the alley. :fightfightfight:

    I think he looks gimmickey and impractical.

    Your gimmicky and impractical!!!

    I'll be shocked if the top part of him can't be retracted into the ball. Also if they ever come out with a toy BB8 that is life size, I'm hella buying it. Especially if it actually moves.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    TheCanManTheCanMan GT: Gasman122009 JerseyRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    Nah there is another shot in the trailer with the engines of one of the ships and the layout looks like a super star destroyer.

    Specifically, this.

    PPnZRLN.png

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    There are haters of BB8? I'll meet them in the alley. :fightfightfight:

    I think he looks gimmickey and impractical.

    Your gimmicky and impractical!!!

    I'll be shocked if the top part of him can't be retracted into the ball. Also if they ever come out with a toy BB8 that is life size, I'm hella buying it. Especially if it actually moves.

    /sigh

    you're

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    DiplominatorDiplominator Hardcore Porg Registered User regular
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    Nah there is another shot in the trailer with the engines of one of the ships and the layout looks like a super star destroyer.

    Specifically, this.

    PPnZRLN.png

    Oh hey, yeah. That totally is an SSD.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    I just want to know how they make him work. I'd assume some kind of magnet.

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    AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Let's get to twerk! The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    I'm speaking of Harrison Ford here, obviously.

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    edzeppedzepp Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Of course. They can make him smile too.

    BB-8 is just great. Love the little fucker. And he does seem very mobile. Faster than R2 at any rate.

    edzepp on
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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    Nah there is another shot in the trailer with the engines of one of the ships and the layout looks like a super star destroyer.

    Specifically, this.

    PPnZRLN.png

    Oh hey, yeah. That totally is an SSD.

    but .... that wouldn't really have an 'exit' like the death star super structure ....

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

    Ahahahahahaha what? That's some real fan fictiony bullshit. Superman is a god now and corrupted and Batman fights him because reasons and.. Holy shit.
    Ok so, I'm going to watch the Star Wars trailer again to cleanse my palate here.

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    MancingtomMancingtom Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Emissary42 wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    The wars of star spoilers from the costume exhibit.

    Apparently the empire is now the "The New Order"

    And the Rebellion is now "The resistance"

    Which tells me that the rebellions attempt to govern post the empire going to shit worked like garbage. Good job guys!

    Actually for the first one, it's
    The First Order

    But we can tell at least that some serious warfare went down from the wrecks in that trailer.
    Especially what appears to almost certainly be a Super Star Destroyer crashed upside down on Jakku that the Falcon flies into around 1:27
    From this shot?
    star-destroyer2.0.gif
    It's not the right shape for a Super Star Destroyer, it's just a regular Star Destroyer.

    Nah there is another shot in the trailer with the engines of one of the ships and the layout looks like a super star destroyer.

    Specifically, this.

    PPnZRLN.png

    Oh hey, yeah. That totally is an SSD.

    but .... that wouldn't really have an 'exit' like the death star super structure ....

    Heh, I guess it depends on how many holes got blown into her before she went down.

    It must have been there a long time, since the sand has covered what was no doubt an epic impact crater.

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    physi_marcphysi_marc Positron Tracker In a nutshellRegistered User regular
    I just want to know how they make him work. I'd assume some kind of magnet.

    I'm pretty sure BB-8 is a ballbot.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

    Ahahahahahaha what? That's some real fan fictiony bullshit. Superman is a god now and corrupted and Batman fights him because reasons and.. Holy shit.
    Ok so, I'm going to watch the Star Wars trailer again to cleanse my palate here.

    Star Wars, a far future (or past) setting with never ending wars on the galactic scale with evil space wizards who electrocute victims to death with magic lightning - is cheerier than a movie with Superman in it.

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    MancingtomMancingtom Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

    Ahahahahahaha what? That's some real fan fictiony bullshit. Superman is a god now and corrupted and Batman fights him because reasons and.. Holy shit.
    Ok so, I'm going to watch the Star Wars trailer again to cleanse my palate here.

    Star Wars, a far future (or past) setting with never ending wars on the galactic scale with evil space wizards who electrocute victims to death with magic lightning - is cheerier than a movie with Superman in it.

    I think you win for most depressing sentence of the day.

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    HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    I hope they do a good job filling some of the gaps between VI and VII without it being too exposition heavy. I prefer they leave a lot of it up to our imaginations to figure out. What always made the Clone Wars and the time before the "Dark Times" so interesting was that you could speculate on just what that galaxy looked like. Then the PT happened...

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    I hope they do a good job filling some of the gaps between VI and VII without it being too exposition heavy. I prefer they leave a lot of it up to our imaginations to figure out. What always made the Clone Wars and the time before the "Dark Times" so interesting was that you could speculate on just what that galaxy looked like. Then the PT happened...

    Yeah outside of the opening scroll I don't want to know too much about what happened. Much like how in IV we get a blurb about the rebellion and the empire but know really shit about either.

    Which based on Star Trek remake is a strong suit of Abrahams as he left a lot of story telling things off the table/in other mediums, there if you wanted to find it but not necessary to enjoy the movie.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

    Ahahahahahaha what? That's some real fan fictiony bullshit. Superman is a god now and corrupted and Batman fights him because reasons and.. Holy shit.
    Ok so, I'm going to watch the Star Wars trailer again to cleanse my palate here.

    I doubt superman is corrupted. I bet it's just public sentiment, confusion, a smear campaign from lex. I mean, he could be, but it doesn't have to be to have batman take him down.

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    NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    I love that shot.

    That first shot is better composed than anything in the PT.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »

    It's a little weird. I've lived long enough to see people go from thinking CGI is the coolest thing ever to people realizing that real props/effects are so much cooler than things built inside a computer.

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

    Ahahahahahaha what? That's some real fan fictiony bullshit. Superman is a god now and corrupted and Batman fights him because reasons and.. Holy shit.
    Ok so, I'm going to watch the Star Wars trailer again to cleanse my palate here.

    I doubt superman is corrupted. I bet it's just public sentiment, confusion, a smear campaign from lex. I mean, he could be, but it doesn't have to be to have batman take him down.

    Oh I'm sure. It's still insanity.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Well for me its just cool seeing and hearing it moving around, it captures the spirit of R2 without feeling like r2 2.0.

    Also I think CGI much like any special effect is best used when its necessary (big space battles) and not like here is a room on a space station that is entirely green screen and you can tell because nothing looks real at all. That's the issue with CGI its the ian malcolm syndrome "you were thinking about if you could you never stopped and thought if you should."

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Goumindong wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    shryke wrote: »
    TOGSolid wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    Those stormtroopers getting tossed around in explosions actually look like real stormtroopers, not CGItroopers. If their armour still makes the *clack-clack* sound like in the orignal movies, I will be very happy. For some reason, I really like that sound.


    So. Fucking. Excited.

    It does look like as much of this movie as possible is going to be shot with practical effects so chances are those absolutely were real Stormtroopers with real explosions going off near them.

    In trailer leak news: http://variety.com/2015/film/news/batman-v-superman-trailer-leaks-online-1201474431/

    Spoilers, it's basically: BWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM for like two minutes combined with a successful attempt at sucking the fun out of everything.

    OMG, what the fuck was that? What the hell is going on in this movie?

    Ahahahahahaha what? That's some real fan fictiony bullshit. Superman is a god now and corrupted and Batman fights him because reasons and.. Holy shit.
    Ok so, I'm going to watch the Star Wars trailer again to cleanse my palate here.

    I doubt superman is corrupted. I bet it's just public sentiment, confusion, a smear campaign from lex. I mean, he could be, but it doesn't have to be to have batman take him down.

    Well you'd think that the one guy on the planet to see through a Lex Luther smear campaign would be Batman. So either Superman turned evil or Batman is a dupe. Now I've admittedly never read any comics but both of those don't sound right.

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