I have had it with the snyde comments in here! You know ezachly what to do to make these films better huh?? Well lemme here em, I am all ayers! I mean really, what could have been done to dave these movies? You think anything you say would affleck the outcome? Where have ben this whole time anyway?
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Brainiac 8Don't call me Shirley...Registered Userregular
Tobey Maguire is the least charismatic actor I've ever seen
Fun fact: As soon as you realize that he is utterly terrible at bringing any sense of mirth or self-depreciation to the character of spiderman, the sam raimi movies cave in on themselves.
I love those movies,they're campy in the best way. They're fun! Even Tobey couldn't ruin them for me, and he delivered those lines with all the oomph of an already dead fish
Tobey Maguire is the least charismatic actor I've ever seen
Fun fact: As soon as you realize that he is utterly terrible at bringing any sense of mirth or self-depreciation to the character of spiderman, the sam raimi movies cave in on themselves.
I love those movies,they're campy in the best way. They're fun! Even Tobey couldn't ruin them for me, and he delivered those lines with all the oomph of an already dead fish
He's just so stunningly useless at being both spiderman and Pete; They could have gotten any random person off the street to play the character and gotten a performance that was at least as good.
But this is the DC thread so...
I'm kind of mystified at the idea of Robin using a halberd; they're a heavy brutish weapon concieved of for the express purpose of murdering mounted knights. This is not a very finessey weapon.
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Brainiac 8Don't call me Shirley...Registered Userregular
Toby was a great Peter, thank you very much.
I have a deep love for the Raimi movies, even with the corniness and such. I even like Spider-Man 3 save for a couple of infamous scenes. :P
I was joking anyway. One of the tent poles of objectivism is contempt for the environment. There's basically no chance that the Aquaman film will address any real life environmental concerns wrt to the ocean. He'll just be moist batman.
I was joking anyway. One of the tent poles of objectivism is contempt for the environment. There's basically no chance that the Aquaman film will address any real life environmental concerns wrt to the ocean. He'll just be moist batman.
Moist Batman, that's so awful.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Finally, my favorite DC hero, the butt of everyone's joke, gets his own major movie. His chance to make a real pop-culture comeback.
And it has to be in the brown-ass, miserable Snyderverse. It's like an episode of The Twilight Zone.
Now you know how I feel as a Superman fan in the Snyderverse.
At least Superman has a history of pretty good to great television series debuting over the years. Aquaman has Superfriends. :P
Edit: I forgot, Aquaman has Brave and the Bold, which was amazing!
Some DC fan (or exec) must've seen The Avengers and made a wish on a monkey's paw.
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The animated movie Justice League: Throne of Atlantis was actually really good, one of their best animated movies, and took Arthur's journey to Aquaman in a really nice, simple, effective way that should have been done for the movie. They basically start with him on land and trying to be the peaceful middle ground to tensions with Atlantis because of his half-brother.
He said like two quippy things that entire series.
"Oh that's nice, did your husband make that for you?" (lol gay jokes mirite?!)
"Here's your change"
But his Peter was even more boring. He wasn't really... anything? And #3 was just.. what the fuck.
The problem with Tobey McGuire is that Raimi was going for 1980s "Revenge of the Nerds" tropes, where Tobey is a blameless victim who gets picked and bullied relentlessly on for a nerd. But he couldn't actually commit to it and make him and make Peter have all the super obnoxious nerd stereotypes because Peter is the leading man, so instead he just makes Tobey super bland and tries to imply that everyone only picks on him because he's super smart and they all hate smart people because being smart is dumb.
Webb realized that these outdated stereotypes are outdated. We live in the information age, being smart is cool, nerds are kings, and everyone is freaking out about getting into college and finding a good job. So instead of "Peter is picked on for being smart," you have "Peter is socially isolated because he's an orphan and he has a chip on his shoulder. You get the impression that the other kids like Peter, but they don't know how to relate to him. Which is actually a lot more accurate to the original 1960s pre-"Revenge of the Nerds" Peter Parker.
His version is also just a lot more realistic and relatable in general. Instead of trolling the streets for random crime (which is wildly inefficient because seriously -- how often does a crime happen in broad daylight right in front of you), he specifically listens to the police band for his Uncles killer. And he's quick to reveal his super identity to Gwen rather than creating unnecessary cliche drama, because let's face it, she's super hot and super smart and he's dying to tell someone.
Bringing this back to the DC Verse: Trolling for random criminals in the street dumb.
Batman is just one person. No matter how smart and how tough he is, he can only surveil so much space at any given moment. The police can cover far more ground than her can. It looks like the police were already on their way to arrest the pedophile guy. So why did anyone need Batman to show up in the first place?
In the comics, the reason you need Batman is for crooks who are too powerful for the police to take on directly, such as super villains and crime bosses. But those people are threats because Batman wants to bring them in alive. That makes them a lot harder to arrest (because you need evidence, and Batman isn't going to testify). It also means they can eventually break out of prison and return to their old ways.
But that all goes out the window if Batman is willing to kill. Because any time a new crime boss shows up, Batman shows up and murders him. No due process required. Eventually, crime bosses get the hint and move somewhere else.
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Just gotta have a little "fun" with the character, right guys?!
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I love those movies,they're campy in the best way. They're fun! Even Tobey couldn't ruin them for me, and he delivered those lines with all the oomph of an already dead fish
He's just so stunningly useless at being both spiderman and Pete; They could have gotten any random person off the street to play the character and gotten a performance that was at least as good.
But this is the DC thread so...
I'm kind of mystified at the idea of Robin using a halberd; they're a heavy brutish weapon concieved of for the express purpose of murdering mounted knights. This is not a very finessey weapon.
I have a deep love for the Raimi movies, even with the corniness and such. I even like Spider-Man 3 save for a couple of infamous scenes. :P
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He said like two quippy things that entire series.
"Oh that's nice, did your husband make that for you?" (lol gay jokes mirite?!)
"Here's your change"
But his Peter was even more boring. He wasn't really... anything? And #3 was just.. what the fuck.
We won't kill you but we don't have to save you either. *runs over head with Batmobile tires*
The Spidey costume looked better in the two Amazing films than the previous 3.
I think it'd be funny to have the DC Movies thread end on Spider-Man discussion.
If the rumors are to be believed though, it won't have Black Manta in it, which is just crazy pants that they'll do an Aquaman movie without him.
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It'll be an Avatar/ Fern Gully save the day from evil man.
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just use PETA instead
Moist Batman, that's so awful.
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Kills his anemones by plowing into them on a sperm whale.
Robin has a halberd?
Moist Batman has a trident!
We need Kaldur'ahm in this movie.
Finally, my favorite DC hero, the butt of everyone's joke, gets his own major movie. His chance to make a real pop-culture comeback.
And it has to be in the brown-ass, miserable Snyderverse. It's like an episode of The Twilight Zone.
OUTRAGEOUS!
can't outbatman the batman
Aquaman's trident shoots tiny tridents.
Quinjet.
Now you know how I feel as a Superman fan in the Snyderverse.
At least Superman has a history of pretty good to great television series debuting over the years. Aquaman has Superfriends. :P
Edit: I forgot, Aquaman has Brave and the Bold, which was amazing!
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Some DC fan (or exec) must've seen The Avengers and made a wish on a monkey's paw.
Aquaman's had solid representation in the last few cartoons.
The problem with Tobey McGuire is that Raimi was going for 1980s "Revenge of the Nerds" tropes, where Tobey is a blameless victim who gets picked and bullied relentlessly on for a nerd. But he couldn't actually commit to it and make him and make Peter have all the super obnoxious nerd stereotypes because Peter is the leading man, so instead he just makes Tobey super bland and tries to imply that everyone only picks on him because he's super smart and they all hate smart people because being smart is dumb.
Webb realized that these outdated stereotypes are outdated. We live in the information age, being smart is cool, nerds are kings, and everyone is freaking out about getting into college and finding a good job. So instead of "Peter is picked on for being smart," you have "Peter is socially isolated because he's an orphan and he has a chip on his shoulder. You get the impression that the other kids like Peter, but they don't know how to relate to him. Which is actually a lot more accurate to the original 1960s pre-"Revenge of the Nerds" Peter Parker.
His version is also just a lot more realistic and relatable in general. Instead of trolling the streets for random crime (which is wildly inefficient because seriously -- how often does a crime happen in broad daylight right in front of you), he specifically listens to the police band for his Uncles killer. And he's quick to reveal his super identity to Gwen rather than creating unnecessary cliche drama, because let's face it, she's super hot and super smart and he's dying to tell someone.
Bringing this back to the DC Verse: Trolling for random criminals in the street dumb.
Batman is just one person. No matter how smart and how tough he is, he can only surveil so much space at any given moment. The police can cover far more ground than her can. It looks like the police were already on their way to arrest the pedophile guy. So why did anyone need Batman to show up in the first place?
In the comics, the reason you need Batman is for crooks who are too powerful for the police to take on directly, such as super villains and crime bosses. But those people are threats because Batman wants to bring them in alive. That makes them a lot harder to arrest (because you need evidence, and Batman isn't going to testify). It also means they can eventually break out of prison and return to their old ways.
But that all goes out the window if Batman is willing to kill. Because any time a new crime boss shows up, Batman shows up and murders him. No due process required. Eventually, crime bosses get the hint and move somewhere else.
Superior Spider-Man movie retroactively confirmed
Yeah aside from Goomba-Lizard, it was a pretty accurate Spider-Man story.