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    JimBobtheMonkeyJimBobtheMonkey Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    You didn't read the piece.

    It has nothing to do with the Big 12 not getting in this season.

    I mean, the piece is literally about the Big 12 not getting in this season.

    "We didn't have a team that was a likely participant in the playoff, and so from that standpoint it doesn't make a lot of difference to us this year, but I'd just like to know what we're supposed to advise our members. Does the 13th data point make a difference, or does it not? Does the conference championship game make a difference, or does it not? Are they only used as tiebreakers, or is it other metrics?"

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Yeah what are y'all reading. Bowlsby literally said it doesn't matter about this year, but they're looking back to the TCU/Baylor fiasco and how their metrics are constantly changing.

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    Zombie HeroZombie Hero Registered User regular
    Michigan vs. FSU? That's pretty awesome.

    The last time these two played each other (1991), UM was my favorite team. I hope the noles can keep the game close, but with the line opening at UM -7.5, I'm not very optimistic.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    The more shit blows up, the quicker we get to a reasonable playoff with conference autobids and a handful of wildcards. I personally like P5 champs plus highest G5 and then 2 wildcards.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Michigan vs. FSU? That's pretty awesome.

    The last time these two played each other (1991), UM was my favorite team. I hope the noles can keep the game close, but with the line opening at UM -7.5, I'm not very optimistic.

    Gonna be lots of pressure on the quarterbacks in that game. Don't think we can block Walker, and know FSU's offensive line can't block our defensive line.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    The more shit blows up, the quicker we get to a reasonable playoff with conference autobids and a handful of wildcards. I personally like P5 champs plus highest G5 and then 2 wildcards.

    For reference, this probably looks like:

    (1) Alabama vs. (8) Western Michigan
    (2) Ohio State vs. (7) Oklahoma
    (3) Clemson vs. (6) Michigan
    (4) Washington vs. (5) Penn State

    (OSU bumped to #2 to avoid intra conference rematches in the first round which is standard NCAA policy)

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    Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    Heisman Finalists:
    Jackson
    Mayfield
    Watson
    Westbrook
    Pepp—
    *is overrun by a horde of angry Buckeyes howling that he doesn't deserve it*

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    That's a hell of a late charge by Westbrook. Watson also curiously charged late in some of the straw polls, because interceptions don't count against him or something.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    bullshit

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    It is kind of amazing only one finalist came from the playoff teams.

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    It is kind of amazing only one finalist came from the playoff teams.

    Harder to get recognized as an outstanding individual player if the rest of the team is good. Same reason positions other than QB have a hard time getting recognized.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    It is kind of amazing only one finalist came from the playoff teams.

    Harder to get recognized as an outstanding individual player if the rest of the team is good. Same reason positions other than QB have a hard time getting recognized.

    Recently the Heisman is "QB/RB on a national championship game participant." I think it's been someone else three times since 2000. Griffin, Manziel, and Tebow.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Malik McDowell going pro, which is not surprising since he checked out in mid-October.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I think based on stats it's going to be Luke Jackson. But, If I'm betting my life savings I'm putting it on Watson.

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    SiliconStewSiliconStew Registered User regular
    It is kind of amazing only one finalist came from the playoff teams.

    Harder to get recognized as an outstanding individual player if the rest of the team is good. Same reason positions other than QB have a hard time getting recognized.

    Recently the Heisman is "QB/RB on a national championship game participant." I think it's been someone else three times since 2000. Griffin, Manziel, and Tebow.

    Yeah, feels like the voters have gotten lazy and only pick "member of highest ranked team" rather than "best player overall".

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    You didn't read the piece.

    It has nothing to do with the Big 12 not getting in this season.

    I mean, the piece is literally about the Big 12 not getting in this season.

    "We didn't have a team that was a likely participant in the playoff, and so from that standpoint it doesn't make a lot of difference to us this year, but I'd just like to know what we're supposed to advise our members. Does the 13th data point make a difference, or does it not? Does the conference championship game make a difference, or does it not? Are they only used as tiebreakers, or is it other metrics?"

    I dunno, aybe if Oklahoma had beaten Ohio State then they probably would have gotten in. This isn't rocket science, just scheduling the games isn't enough, you have to WIN them.

    Hell, scheduling the Oklahoma game and winning it is part of the fucking reason why Ohio State got into the playoff despite not winning its division! The guy may be saying "this isn't about THIS season" but he is passively aggressively complaining about how his teams were left out despite them doing everything they were asked to (except, you know, win their games).

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    Temple HC Matt Rhule was just confirmed as the new head coach for Baylor.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    hopefully Baylor can actually change its shit fuck culture with him

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    Some big time Baylor donors are calling for an independent investigation into the board of regents, so I hope the pressure keeps up and those administration fucks that enabled this don't get off scott free.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    ph blake wrote: »
    Some big time Baylor donors are calling for an independent investigation into the board of regents, so I hope the pressure keeps up and those administration fucks that enabled this don't get off scott free.

    I'm not holding my breath, especially not with the overall culture snap back america is going through.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    ph blake wrote: »
    Some big time Baylor donors are calling for an independent investigation into the board of regents, so I hope the pressure keeps up and those administration fucks that enabled this don't get off scott free.

    My understanding those donors are pissed Briles was fired.

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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    ph blake wrote: »
    Some big time Baylor donors are calling for an independent investigation into the board of regents, so I hope the pressure keeps up and those administration fucks that enabled this don't get off scott free.

    My understanding those donors are pissed Briles was fired.

    While I'm sure there are donors who fell that way, the stories and quotes I've seen are from ones who want the full investigation report released (Baylor only released its own "summary of the facts" instead of the full 120 page report). The thing to understand is that, historically speaking, Baylor's money has come from rich Southern Baptist types who primarily view the school as a kind of city on a hill, a beacon of Godliness and Morality in Higher Education that all good Southern Baptists should aspire to attend.

    These are the donors that, while they were initially were excited about Baylor's newfound football success (what good is a city on a hill if it doesn't shine?), now see the scandal as evidence that Baylor's administration has gotten too caught up in "worldly pleasures" such as athletic and commercial success. Their goal is to refocus Baylor's direction towards what really matters: providing young, wealthy, southern baptist types with the best indoctrination education money can buy.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Yup and that city on a hill idea is a big reason I'll never respect baylor as an institution

    they've never had a shining city and it's always had immense cultural issues and backwards-ass policies

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    Oregon's not interviewing Fleck. There's a rumor that Western found 30 million and offered it to him. I find this... unlikely.

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    The most gleeful option would be that Note Dame fires Kelly, and Oregon leaps to hire the 'name' who just became available. Then in four years they go winless.

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    AssuranAssuran Is swinging on the Spiral Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    Is the thread doing another Bowl Pick Em?

    I totally forgot about the weekly picks this year as I've been super busy.

    Also, Oregon is ready to hire USF's Willie Taggart as their next head coach.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Lane Kiffin will be the primary target for USF now

    that dude has been fucking everywhere on the college football map

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    Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    If I were USF I'd make Strong the #1 target

    I think he's much better than Kiffin

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Glad to see Strong is getting HC nods from Cinci and hopefully USF. He definitely should be USF's #1 target though over Kiffin

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    JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    Anyone who thinks Lane Kiffin is any kind of #1 choice for a HC job is going to get exactly what they deserve.

    Also saw that Oregon went with Taggart, totally ruining my dream of them hiring an underwhelming ND coach and getting totally Willinghamed.

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    NiryaNirya Registered User regular
    Assuran wrote: »
    Is the thread doing another Bowl Pick Em?

    I totally forgot about the weekly picks this year as I've been super busy.

    Also, Oregon is ready to hire USF's Willie Taggart as their next head coach.

    There'll probably be one after this weekend, since we have ARMY/NAVY this weekend.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    I really hope USF doesn't hire Strong.

    Not because I think it would make any difference for their terrible, terrible, terrible program, but because I'd hate to see a respectable coach get sucked into that nexus of disappointment and mediocrity.

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    Romanian My EscutcheonRomanian My Escutcheon Two of Forks Registered User regular
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Anyone who thinks Lane Kiffin is any kind of #1 choice for a HC job is going to get exactly what they deserve.

    Also saw that Oregon went with Taggart, totally ruining my dream of them hiring an underwhelming ND coach and getting totally Willinghamed.

    Not gonna lie, Kelly would have been the better pick.

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Lane Kiffin is your new head coach in Houston.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Lane Kiffin is your new head coach in Houston.

    Not quite yet.

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    CogCog What'd you expect? Registered User regular
    Why do people keep giving that man head coaching jobs?

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    Cog wrote: »
    Why do people keep giving that man head coaching jobs?

    Because he's a good coach?

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    Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited December 2016
    Maximum wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Why do people keep giving that man head coaching jobs?

    Because he's a good coach?

    False

    I'll give him all the credit as an offensive coordinator though.

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    MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    Cog wrote: »
    Why do people keep giving that man head coaching jobs?

    Because he's a good coach?

    False

    I'll give him all the credit as an offensive coordinator though.

    The offensive coordinator is a coach.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    I really hope USF doesn't hire Strong.

    Not because I think it would make any difference for their terrible, terrible, terrible program, but because I'd hate to see a respectable coach get sucked into that nexus of disappointment and mediocrity.

    But he was at Texas for three years :rotate:

    Also Lane Kiffin is clearly a good coach. Head coach is another matter (I still say head coach is more like the CEO of a company than anything else).

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