As was foretold, we've added advertisements to the forums! If you have questions, or if you encounter any bugs, please visit this thread: https://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/240191/forum-advertisement-faq-and-reports-thread/
Options

ISS upgrades to Vista, should have waited for SP1

1234568»

Posts

  • Options
    WeaverWeaver Who are you? What do you want?Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    yes

    Weaver on
  • Options
    DarkHawkeDarkHawke Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Treborias wrote: »
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Mars is only about twice the size of the moon. Its not vastly bigger. Its also much smaller than the Earth.

    This is true, but it's the only feasible planet in the solar system to colonize. You could still fit a million or so people on the plante and set up a mining colony.

    AFAIK there's nothing in particular in the martian geology that you can't get on earth. So, doubtful until we have easy space elevators to transport the rock back to earth all cheap like. Makes little economical sense otherwise.

    Oh, and does anyone know the name of that plan that some crazy architect came up with years ago to basically dismantle the earth and build it into this massive open structure with loads more internal space for habitats?

    DarkHawke on
  • Options
    MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    That's sort of a Dyson's Sphere, but not exactly.

    Mysst on
    ikbUJdU.jpg
  • Options
    DarkHawkeDarkHawke Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Yeah, it was Dyson-ish, but way smaller. big hollow sphere with open bits.

    Ahah! Found it: Globus Cassus

    DarkHawke on
  • Options
    HamjuHamju Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Finally, the timescales required for construction of such a structure are of the order of millions of years.

    Well, we better get at it.

    Hamju on
    kekekesigshortercuzthinsacunt.jpg
  • Options
    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    mars has basically nothing to offer us from a resource gathering standpoint

    in fact

    nothing we have seriously studied within our solar system does or we'd be all over that shit like a fat kid on cake

    doesn't mean it's worthless to go there, all kinds of crazy scientific discoveries can be made especially on mars

    but space exploration should be about scientific discovery and research

    not apartment shopping you fags

    Pony on
  • Options
    RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Pony wrote: »
    mars has basically nothing to offer us from a resource gathering standpoint

    in fact

    nothing we have seriously studied within our solar system does or we'd be all over that shit like a fat kid on cake

    doesn't mean it's worthless to go there, all kinds of crazy scientific discoveries can be made especially on mars

    but space exploration should be about scientific discovery and research

    not apartment shopping you fags

    Fuck you pony, I want my Moonhouse and my goddamn rocketpack.

    Ruckus on
  • Options
    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    does anyone even stop to consider how important gravity is

    listen martian colonization isn't going to happen without either artificial gravity of some sort, or genetic engineering and/or cybernetics that turn us into stick people who are better suited to martian gravity

    because dude it is way less than Earth's

    Venus has a gravity like Earth's, but it's got an atmospheric pressure comparable to the bottom of the ocean, it is thoroughly and massively soaked in radiation and heat, and using current technology Venus is actually a huge pain in the ass to get to

    Pony on
  • Options
    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    why not pony

    prime real estate

    Faricazy on
  • Options
    PonyPony Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    the problem with space travel is

    well

    space travel

    getting there

    once you're there, not so bad

    pretty easy to build a moonbase n shit

    it's just getting everything there and keeping it resupplied etc. etc

    Pony on
  • Options
    FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    i'd like to watch adult swim from the comfort of my floating home on europa

    Faricazy on
  • Options
    DarkHawkeDarkHawke Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Not just space travel per se - getting to space.

    Reaching escape velocity is expensive and dangerous.

    Once you're in orbit it's pretty easy to get where you need to go (there's even a theoretical system where you can get moved around by LaGrange points around planets, just shifting from one point to another when they come close together. It'd take decades, but you can get from one side of the solar system to the other basically for free.

    You'd be irradiated to shit and stick thin by the end of it though.

    DarkHawke on
  • Options
    RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Pony wrote: »
    the problem with space travel is

    well

    space travel

    getting there

    once you're there, not so bad

    pretty easy to build a moonbase n shit

    it's just getting everything there and keeping it resupplied etc. etc

    A self sufficient Moonbase would be kickass. All mining minerals to replicate replacement parts, harvesting helium-3 or something for it's fusion generators.

    But admittedly the initial capital expenditure to get everything up there to get started would be gigantic.

    Ruckus on
  • Options
    DarkHawkeDarkHawke Registered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ruckus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    the problem with space travel is

    well

    space travel

    getting there

    once you're there, not so bad

    pretty easy to build a moonbase n shit

    it's just getting everything there and keeping it resupplied etc. etc

    A self sufficient Moonbase would be kickass. All mining minerals to replicate replacement parts, harvesting helium-3 or something for it's fusion generators.

    But admittedly the initial capital expenditure to get everything up there to get started would be gigantic.

    If there's decent quantities of Helium-3 up there I can see it being viable economically, supply and demand and all that. Otherwise there'd be little point - we've got plenty of silicon after all.

    DarkHawke on
  • Options
    marty_0001marty_0001 I am a file and you put documents in meRegistered User regular
    edited June 2007
    Ruckus wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    the problem with space travel is

    well

    space travel

    getting there

    once you're there, not so bad

    pretty easy to build a moonbase n shit

    it's just getting everything there and keeping it resupplied etc. etc

    A self sufficient Moonbase would be kickass. All mining minerals to replicate replacement parts, harvesting helium-3 or something for it's fusion generators.

    But admittedly the initial capital expenditure to get everything up there to get started would be gigantic.

    Correct and correct. A base on an otherwise-uninhabitable planet isn't going to be self-sufficient unless you transport a small country up there. You need good soil to grow crops. You need a crap load of water. Then you need to protect everything from that unfriendly radiation in space. We'd be living in an enormous (enormous) radiation-proof green house. Then if we wanted to expand our living space we'd have to build an adjacent greenhouse. I doubt that would ever be cost-effective.

    As for staying here... Expansion is the only way. We'll eventually just run out of resources. If we achieve faster than light travel, then 'an ocean' is exactly what space will become. Check out Alpha Centauri? Oh well nothing there, tick it off the list and we'll try the next one.

    marty_0001 on
Sign In or Register to comment.