"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
While I can say nothing bad about City on the Edge of Forever, it is a slippery slope of a plot device. It could lead to space nazis. Then what?
"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
Do does Christopher Lloyd have another part to play in Star Trek?
Also at the end of the movie does old Spock wink and give a thumbs up to young Spock right when he is about to go back to the future after the day is saved?
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"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
While I can say nothing bad about City on the Edge of Forever, it is a slippery slope of a plot device. It could lead to space nazis. Then what?
Then you go back in time and warn yourself not to watch Star Trek: Enterprise.
"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
While I can say nothing bad about City on the Edge of Forever, it is a slippery slope of a plot device. It could lead to space nazis. Then what?
Then you go back in time and warn yourself not to watch Star Trek: Enterprise.
"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
TOS had plenty of shitty time travel plots, dude. City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success wasn't TOS+Time Travel=Awesome; City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success was a damned good author writing the script.
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"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
TOS had plenty of shitty time travel plots, dude. City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success wasn't TOS+Time Travel=Awesome; City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success was a damned good author writing the script.
"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
TOS had plenty of shitty time travel plots, dude. City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success wasn't TOS+Time Travel=Awesome; City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success was a damned good author writing the script.
"Lost" creators-writers-producers J.J. Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Bryan Burk have teamed to deliver this eleventh film in the four-decades old franchise which essentially serves as a restart (ala "Batman Begins," "Casino Royale") to the franchise. Plot details have yet to be confirmed but the general word is that a group of rogue time-travelling Romulans set out to kill a young James T. Kirk before he becomes Captain. An elderly Spock (Nimoy) sets out in pursuit and must enlist the help of his younger self (Quinto) to stop them.
Time travel? Has Entertprise taught us nothing? No thanks.
This is TOS though when time travel was awesome like the City on the Edge of Forever.
TOS had plenty of shitty time travel plots, dude. City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success wasn't TOS+Time Travel=Awesome; City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success was a damned good author writing the script.
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i thought the secret was Joan Collins?
Wrong, the secret was DeForrest Kelly on the best acid trip ever.
I'll admit, after seeing the teaser for the new ST film last night at Cloverfield (which was incredibly entertaining btw) I am excited to see it. I am skeptical about the casting as well, especially Simon Peg (Shaun of the Dead) as Scotty... any thoughts?
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I'll admit, after seeing the teaser for the new ST film last night at Cloverfield (which was incredibly entertaining btw) I am excited to see it. I am skeptical about the casting as well, especially Simon Peg (Shaun of the Dead) as Scotty... any thoughts?
I think Pegg will do fine. We are talking about the role of Scotty after all. In all fairness, Scotty's not exactly a deep character y'know Especially in the movies he was used for comic relief more than character development anyway
I'll admit, after seeing the teaser for the new ST film last night at Cloverfield (which was incredibly entertaining btw) I am excited to see it. I am skeptical about the casting as well, especially Simon Peg (Shaun of the Dead) as Scotty... any thoughts?
I think Pegg will do fine. We are talking about the role of Scotty after all. In all fairness, Scotty's not exactly a deep character y'know Especially in the movies he was used for comic relief more than character development anyway
In retrospect I agree. Scotty is very much a character role in the first place. Pegg has enough comedic ability and talent to pull it off. I guess I'm just really used to gray hair Scotty.
I don't know the episode, or exact details, but that's from the Enterprise meeting to make some important diplomatic contact, and the hats are somehow required by the race they are speaking too. It may also be the same episode where Picard (or maybe Riker) has to do some sort of formal greeting, and can't remember the words for the life of him.
It's been a long time since I watched TNG.
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I don't know the episode, or exact details, but that's from the Enterprise meeting to make some important diplomatic contact, and the hats are somehow required by the race they are speaking too. It may also be the same episode where Picard (or maybe Riker) has to do some sort of formal greeting, and can't remember the words for the life of him.
It's been a long time since I watched TNG.
See, and I thought "well-done shop of Jayne's hat". My TNG-fu is weaksauce.
I don't know the episode, or exact details, but that's from the Enterprise meeting to make some important diplomatic contact, and the hats are somehow required by the race they are speaking too. It may also be the same episode where Picard (or maybe Riker) has to do some sort of formal greeting, and can't remember the words for the life of him.
It's been a long time since I watched TNG.
See, and I thought "well-done shop of Jayne's hat". My TNG-fu is weaksauce.
Don't feel bad. I was certain that's what it was too. I can't for the life of me remember the episode SanderJK is talking about.
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Nah it's real guys. Patrick Stewart, Michael Dorn, and Jonathon Frakes restarted the whole production to get this picture referencing a cult hit scifi show.
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I don't know the episode, or exact details, but that's from the Enterprise meeting to make some important diplomatic contact, and the hats are somehow required by the race they are speaking too. It may also be the same episode where Picard (or maybe Riker) has to do some sort of formal greeting, and can't remember the words for the life of him.
It's been a long time since I watched TNG.
No, that screencap is definitely not from an episode of the series. I think you're confusing it with Star Trek: Insurrection, where Picard has to greet some delegates in the beginning, and then they put a weird headdress on him.
Anyway, It could be just some gag reel thing or really good Photoshop or something, but certainly not from any actual episode of the show.
The TMP refit was done in orbit of Earth, not on the surface. That is also where it was presumed to have been constructed in the first place.
And as far as any information we have from anything shown on screen goes, all the ships were constructed in space, all the way back (chronologically) to the NX-01 from ENT.
I don't mind the idea of it being built on the surface too much, but it does seem to partly contradict what we've seen so far of starship construction in the rest of Trek.
There's not enough in the actual canon (even if you consider Star Trek V canon!) to determine where the Enterprise was actually built.
It's just reasonable to assume that parts would be built on some planet, and then flown up into orbit where they would be assembled.
Not canon, but: one of the novels that covers the period between the end of the 5-year mission and TMP describes how the saucer section was separated, and flown down to the Earth's surface (I forget where they landed it, exactly) where it was refitted, then later flown back up and reattached, in one of those nerve-wracking precision maneuvers. So the people who insist that the refit was all done in Earth Orbit are making an ASS of U and ME by assuming that the whole refit was done in orbit, as we only see the final stages of it in TMP.
THAT's the trick to building a big franchise without hitting too many consistency walls: leave some holes, leave some details to the imagination, and don't be afraid to leave proverbial "gun-in-a-drawer" ideas lying around. The "Remember" bit at the end of TWoK was only added as an afterthought by Harve Bennett (a TV veteran who knew you need to keep some doors open) and Nimoy himself admits in his second autobiography, "I Am Spock" that he didn't clearly see the implications of that one word when he played the scene. (I have yet to read the third volume, "I Am Also Scotty". I don't understand, I can't find it anywhere. You would think Amazon would have it in their catalog, at least...)
I don't know the episode, or exact details, but that's from the Enterprise meeting to make some important diplomatic contact, and the hats are somehow required by the race they are speaking too. It may also be the same episode where Picard (or maybe Riker) has to do some sort of formal greeting, and can't remember the words for the life of him.
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Not canon, but: one of the novels that covers the period between the end of the 5-year mission and TMP describes how the saucer section was separated, and flown down to the Earth's surface (I forget where they landed it, exactly) where it was refitted, then later flown back up and reattached, in one of those nerve-wracking precision maneuvers.
Seems to me like it would be a lot of effort for nothing. I mean, the Enterprise wasn't built for atmospheric re-entry, so they would have to get other ships to carry it down to Earth and generate a force-field around it to protect it in the descent. Then build a structure on Earth to hold it (remember it was shaped kinda like two cones, so it can't very well stand up on its own). Then anyone who wants to work on the outside needs gravity boots and stuff (granted, those seem readily available in ST V). Then they have to get ships to carry it back into space, and carrying something this big and heavy into orbit is going to be very energy-expensive. Not to mention, again, generating force-fields to protect it in the process.
Really, it would be easier to work on it in space IMO.
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Not canon, but: one of the novels that covers the period between the end of the 5-year mission and TMP describes how the saucer section was separated, and flown down to the Earth's surface (I forget where they landed it, exactly) where it was refitted, then later flown back up and reattached, in one of those nerve-wracking precision maneuvers.
Seems to me like it would be a lot of effort for nothing. I mean, the Enterprise wasn't built for atmospheric re-entry, so they would have to get other ships to carry it down to Earth and generate a force-field around it to protect it in the descent. Then build a structure on Earth to hold it (remember it was shaped kinda like two cones, so it can't very well stand up on its own). Then anyone who wants to work on the outside needs gravity boots and stuff (granted, those seem readily available in ST V). Then they have to get ships to carry it back into space, and carrying something this big and heavy into orbit is going to be very energy-expensive. Not to mention, again, generating force-fields to protect it in the process.
Really, it would be easier to work on it in space IMO.
That's assuming that it would be safe to expose the unfinished sections to the vacuum of space, which may not be the case. Depending on the kind of work that needed doing, it may have been more energy efficient to bring it down and back up again. Precision work is not an easy task wearing a bulky space suit, and running force fields to maintain the atmosphere may have been more costly than finishing that part of the job back on the planet's surface.
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I don't know the episode, or exact details, but that's from the Enterprise meeting to make some important diplomatic contact, and the hats are somehow required by the race they are speaking too. It may also be the same episode where Picard (or maybe Riker) has to do some sort of formal greeting, and can't remember the words for the life of him.
They were meeting the Granola-Eaters of Patchouli-VI
I believe the ceremony involved hacky-sack.
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So the trailer is up now at http://www.paramount.com/startrek/ which is nice since they didn't show it at the session of Cloverfield I went to. The thing I am wondering is this. Before on the sight there wasnt a little red dot next to under constructin. When you click on it it takes you to four "worksite" cameras. I tuned them all in except for two since it is offline. Anyone know why I want to tune them in though?
So the trailer is up now at http://www.paramount.com/startrek/ which is nice since they didn't show it at the session of Cloverfield I went to. The thing I am wondering is this. Before on the sight there wasnt a little red dot next to under constructin. When you click on it it takes you to four "worksite" cameras. I tuned them all in except for two since it is offline. Anyone know why I want to tune them in though?
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While I can say nothing bad about City on the Edge of Forever, it is a slippery slope of a plot device. It could lead to space nazis. Then what?
Do does Christopher Lloyd have another part to play in Star Trek?
Then you go back in time and warn yourself not to watch Star Trek: Enterprise.
I kill the series!
TOS had plenty of shitty time travel plots, dude. City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success wasn't TOS+Time Travel=Awesome; City on the Edge of Forever's formula for success was a damned good author writing the script.
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i thought the secret was Joan Collins?
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I think Pegg will do fine. We are talking about the role of Scotty after all. In all fairness, Scotty's not exactly a deep character y'know Especially in the movies he was used for comic relief more than character development anyway
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In retrospect I agree. Scotty is very much a character role in the first place. Pegg has enough comedic ability and talent to pull it off. I guess I'm just really used to gray hair Scotty.
What the hell is that from? And can someone tell me where that video of Picard singing on the bridge is from too? :whistle:
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It's been a long time since I watched TNG.
See, and I thought "well-done shop of Jayne's hat". My TNG-fu is weaksauce.
The thing is, there are those suspicious black lines around the hats somewhat.
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Here's the site I believe it originates from:
http://remiq.net/tag,1,1496,Jean-Luc_Picard.html
No, that screencap is definitely not from an episode of the series. I think you're confusing it with Star Trek: Insurrection, where Picard has to greet some delegates in the beginning, and then they put a weird headdress on him.
Anyway, It could be just some gag reel thing or really good Photoshop or something, but certainly not from any actual episode of the show.
There's not enough in the actual canon (even if you consider Star Trek V canon!) to determine where the Enterprise was actually built.
It's just reasonable to assume that parts would be built on some planet, and then flown up into orbit where they would be assembled.
Not canon, but: one of the novels that covers the period between the end of the 5-year mission and TMP describes how the saucer section was separated, and flown down to the Earth's surface (I forget where they landed it, exactly) where it was refitted, then later flown back up and reattached, in one of those nerve-wracking precision maneuvers. So the people who insist that the refit was all done in Earth Orbit are making an ASS of U and ME by assuming that the whole refit was done in orbit, as we only see the final stages of it in TMP.
THAT's the trick to building a big franchise without hitting too many consistency walls: leave some holes, leave some details to the imagination, and don't be afraid to leave proverbial "gun-in-a-drawer" ideas lying around. The "Remember" bit at the end of TWoK was only added as an afterthought by Harve Bennett (a TV veteran who knew you need to keep some doors open) and Nimoy himself admits in his second autobiography, "I Am Spock" that he didn't clearly see the implications of that one word when he played the scene. (I have yet to read the third volume, "I Am Also Scotty". I don't understand, I can't find it anywhere. You would think Amazon would have it in their catalog, at least...)
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I believe the ceremony involved hacky-sack.
Really, it would be easier to work on it in space IMO.
That's assuming that it would be safe to expose the unfinished sections to the vacuum of space, which may not be the case. Depending on the kind of work that needed doing, it may have been more energy efficient to bring it down and back up again. Precision work is not an easy task wearing a bulky space suit, and running force fields to maintain the atmosphere may have been more costly than finishing that part of the job back on the planet's surface.
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Awesome question: and I haven't a clue. It's a nice way to draw in hits and build hype. Solution: Watch these four screens for the next three hundred days. Maybe something will happen?