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Image Metrics believe they've cracked Uncanny Valley
APZonerunner
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Image Metrics did the facial animation for GTA4. They've got a very impressive tech demo which shows how they believe they've cracked the uncanny valley issue with some new facial animation techniques and extremely high-end graphics.
Video/Article:
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4557935.ece
This absolutely amazed me. It's not perfect, but it just astonishes me. There's not much else to say. In the words of the Matrix, I can't tell you - you really just have to see the video for yourself.
I wouldn't say Uncanny Valley is cracked but.. damn this is a huge step forward. The only problem I can see really is there doesn't seem to be enough movement in her face outside of the main areas like her brow, mouth and eyes. But.. that's kind of it. Amazing.
Video/Article:
http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4557935.ece
This absolutely amazed me. It's not perfect, but it just astonishes me. There's not much else to say. In the words of the Matrix, I can't tell you - you really just have to see the video for yourself.
I wouldn't say Uncanny Valley is cracked but.. damn this is a huge step forward. The only problem I can see really is there doesn't seem to be enough movement in her face outside of the main areas like her brow, mouth and eyes. But.. that's kind of it. Amazing.
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That said, it's definitely amazing in terms of how well-animated it is.
now show it to me in a way that's interactive
I don't know. There's something about the way characters are modelled and animated in games like Mass Effect and GTA4 that makes it very different (and less susceptable to uncanny valley syndrome) to what they're trying to achieve here. Though I can't explain what.
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where's rvcontre and his crane operator simulation?
there are a few flaws with it, but that didn't stop me from shitting bricks.
It's probably because they look just fine in the context of the videogame's world and environment. If you took a character from mass effect or GTAiV and placed them next to real-life footage of a person talking and emoting it would look weird and robotic. It's all about context.
Anyway, even if all the humans in Mass Effect were rendered photorealistically, they'd still look bloody weird.
edit: holy shit watched the video.
on a small monitor, that was 100% photorealistic to me. i wouldn't be able to tell that was computer generated at all. not on this monitor.
that is fucking incredible.
Yeah, it just means that the closer you get to real-looking, the more obvious the little flaws appear. This generally causes revulsion or a creepy feeling, but the main point is that you focus more on the little details rather than letting them slide.
Also look at those hands, damn.
I agree, at the beginning I was like, no--this is pretty uncanny. But the ending ones were very convincing.
It's amazing.
Of course, because it's so good, game studios might have to stop hiring second rate actors.
Maybe by the end of the next console generation, though.
I've quite found that is not the problem, in my opinion the problem is more game studios hiring first rate actors who just phone it in
Tall-Paul MIPsDroid
i think the animations are more important than the graphics detail as far as textures etc go. What really makes games like Mass Effect look unrealistic is the animation, which is always way too smooth and noticeably distinct from how real people move. The faces have similar problems. Resolve the animation issues, and lower-quality graphics aren't so bad, especially when blurry or filtered or seen from a distance.
It's just the face
more game companies should put an emphasis on animations
I'm also laughing at the people that popped in with criticisms.
And HL2 has had the best facial expressions ive ever seen so far. But i have yet to play Mass Effect so maybe its been dethroned.
Yeah, they just superimposed the CG face over her actual face.
me too! I thought that what IM have done is astounding, and as for the critics... well, on the one hand, you have Image Metrics, who have created what may be the most believable piece of CG rendering of a human being to date, and have contributed their technology to one of the best- selling games of the year so far. On the other hand, you have someone posting on an internet message board... Hrm!
yeah, that's a little disappointing actually
they didn't model the head or body motions, which are what make it realistic to me
It really just... blows everything I've seen so far away. And I'm really excited about it.
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Yeah, that's pretty freaky though, in its total non-freakiness.
'Miles ahead of blah blah' is a pretty common saying. Miles are a measurement of distance as well.
Tall-Paul MIPsDroid
As for the uncanny valley, I wasn't disturbed by the fact that something artificial could look so real, but it did bother me that I would have trouble telling the two apart.
That's pretty much the nature of the uncanny valley though. The closer you get to realism, the more the little things are going to stick out and make it look awkward.
Then they landed smack dab in the middle of the valley, no?
Yeah, that's.. exactly what it is. Seriously, people need to go and look up the definition of it.