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PS3 software Backwards compatibility patent filed
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Apparently Sony has patented a new method of emulating emotion engine code on the Playstation 3 architecture. I'm pretty happy if anything comes of it (like a firmware update that enables even limited PS2 backwards compatibility). Though it's possible they just patented it in order to hold the patent.
Would this piss off people who went out and paid through the nose for a backwards compatible PS3?
edit - Original siliconera article.
Would this piss off people who went out and paid through the nose for a backwards compatible PS3?
edit - Original siliconera article.
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If not, eh. No big deal. Cool deal for everyone else without BC though!
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At least this restriction is less likely with Kaz Hirai than with Ken Kutaragi. Although I suppose there's also the chance that it could be made for purely technical reasons, that individual games would need their own optimizations of the compatibility layer.
Of course, I'll gladly forget about disc compatibility the moment Shadow of the Colossus or Ico shows up on PSN.
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One would hope.
I would actually buy a PS3 if this were so.
Hope and $99.99 will buy your the ability to play PS2 games.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
I'm guessing you've never tried playing a PS2 on an HDTV.
Protip: Even with component cables, they look like total fucking cockshit. The upscaling for PS2 games on the older model PS3s worked quite nicely in making games not look terrible.
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I think it would be great if Sony brought back BC but i get the feeling if they did it would be for titles that would be sold off PSN. Not a bad thing mind you I just don't see BC through hardware or software emulation for disc based titles coming back this gen.
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I disagree, not everyone wants to have multiple systems and controllers and memory cards. BC was one of the main reasons i got my PS3 when i did. I like the fact i have an all in one system. Games saves all on the HDD, wireless controllers across all libraries. It's pretty arrogant of you (and anyone else) to suggest if you want to play PS1/2 games then get a PS2. That is exactly why (imho) Sony took BC out in the first place. If people had looked past the $600 price tag and instead looked at how much value the PS3 offered (even then) chances are we would still have BC in PS3's.
Do they have a patent for the emulation method currently used? Either way, working on it means something is in the works as patching up current BC systems wouldn't bring them any money as they don't sell them anymore.
Any PS2 games on PSN would just be downloadable ISOs. Including such functionality would mean including disc based BC unless they hard coded it to specifically exclude such functionality. Given that disc based PS1 games still play despite selling them through the PSN, I don't see why they would change it for PS2 games.
Another thing to keep in mind, is that there are a huge number of people still playing their PS2s. Was it the NPD survey that listed it as the most played console still? Sony probably hopes that as the price gets cheaper it would be easier to woo such people if their games were still playable on the new system.
Nope.
The more people who can play ps2 games on their ps3, the merrier, I say.
PS2
FF X replay
PS3
God of War 1&2 HD
Rachet and Clank Future
MGS 4
Prince of Persia
360
Bayonetta
Fable 3
DS
FF: 4 heroes of light
Limed so hard.
Pretty much. I guess Sony can get away with going back and forth on these sort of things--unified online service, BC, whatever. So long as it's there in the end.
I paid $310 for my BC 80GB. Assuming it doesn't die tomorrow, I think that was an okay deal. Was it? Still need to buy a DS3 though.
Did the original emulation allow for better framerates? IIRC it was literally the PS2 hardware as part of the PS3 architecture, so I'm not sure it did.
You guess wong. You need to buy a TV with better upscaling.
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Because if there's one thing I want to do when I buy a PS3, it's pay an extra 100 smackers to replace my ailing PS2.
Nothing could be further from my intent than to defend Sony's decisions for the PS3.
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yeah, you're clearly just criticizing Sony's new refusal to sell PS2s to the hopeless.
However I want to shelve it if I were to get a PS3. Even though I have plenty of room, I'd much rather have one machine do everything than several.
I understand why they took it out, it's like Microsoft not putting that $1 component in the disc drive that would prevent the disc scratching. It's $1. $1 x 30 000 000 = quite the savings.
I mean they sell a console either way, and I'm pretty sure they want to sell their PS3's even though the PS2's are pure total profit.
Exactly at launch it cost $28 to put the ps2 chips in the ps3. Now it probably cost less towards the end since they were able to emulate the EE, but even if the GS cost $10 that is still quite a bit of money.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
Except for the fact that I've tried both a PS2 with component cables and a hardware-based BC PS3 on my HDTV, and guess what? One looked phenomenally better.
BC cost them next to nothing.
It wasn't a cost move. It was done in order to get PS3 owners to stop buying/playing PS2 games, but to buy PS3 games instead. Jack Tretton actually made that exact statement himself.
You don't make that statement unless you are covering up something even worse, man.
Still next to nothing times 40+ million units is still a healthy chunk of change to save. I also did mention the PS2 sales. But yeah I forgot to mention that one too.
I'm actually afraid of buying a PS2 because of its reputation of having DREs. My GameCube had that and boy did it make me feel bad
http://www.emsnow.com/newsarchives/archivedetails.cfm?ID=15102
$27 * 20,000,000 = $540,000,000 That is hardly nothing.
Let me tell you about Demon's Souls....
This problem is a lot less likely with the slim PS2s. They don't even sell fat PS2s anymore.
Still, it'd be nice to be able to play games from both consoles when I get a Ps3.
I hope they do bring back the backwards compatibility. Even though I paid more for my model than the new one is likely to cost, more people playing the PS3 means more games and exclusives!
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Luckily I have both a launch PS2 and a slim, so if I run into a game that doesn't work right, I can switch over.