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Reid Backs Plan to Repeal DADT
tsmvengy
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Woohoo! Looks like the ball is actually rolling on this:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/reid-backs-plan-to-repeal-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy/?hp
This is exciting news, and I'm glad to say I won't be bitching about how they're ignoring shit if this goes through.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/14/reid-backs-plan-to-repeal-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy/?hp
With a possible fight brewing in Congress over repeal of the Pentagon’s “don’t ask, don’t tell†policy on gays in the military, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the majority leader, came down on Tuesday solidly in favor of eliminating the ban.
“We’re having trouble getting people into the military,†Mr. Reid told reporters when questioned about whether he could support an 18-month moratorium on enforcing a prohibition on gays in the armed forces. “And I think that we shouldn’t turn down anybody that’s willing to fight for our country, certainly based on sexual orientation.â€
Mr. Reid said he would go the proposal, being considered by Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrat of New York, one better and support a permanent repeal of the ban.
Ms. Gillibrand, eager to court support from the large New York gay community and improve her standing with liberals prior to her election bid next year, is reportedly considering trying to add a moratorium to the Pentagon policy measure now being considered in the Senate.
That measure is quickly becoming a focal point of social issues as Senate Democrats are also pressing an amendment that would expand the definition of hate crimes to include those committed against victims on the basis of gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disabilities.
To make his case for that proposal, Mr. Reid was accompanied Tuesday by Judy Shepard, the mother of Matthew Shepard, a gay University of Wyoming student who was tied to a fence, beaten and left to die in 1998. The bill will be named for him.
“For the last decade, Matthew Shepard’s name has been associated with hate crimes,†Mr. Reid said. “When this bill passes, his name will thereafter be associated with justice.â€
This is exciting news, and I'm glad to say I won't be bitching about how they're ignoring shit if this goes through.
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(That feels weird).
Maybe Broodax is ardently pro-gay?
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On another note, lifting it is a good idea but the question is, are the majority of the people in the military going to be accepting of it and are there people there who will help defend them if it gets ugly?
if they can't follow an order our army is better off without them
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Well to draw the ol' parallel with racial integration Vietnam was probably one of the things that pushed the civil rights movement.
Then I'm sure Iraq has sadly helped gay integration (sad in the fact we are over there and young men and women dying did something people should do anyway).
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Look, all I'm saying is that if it weren't for all these blacks, Jews, Catholics, gays and whatnots around, the KKK would be pretty cool guys!
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Irish people, too drunk to know who to hate anymore.
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I hate that about myself.
Imagine the fear of knowing you have a gay man on board a boat - when you retire at night you think to yourself "God, will I wake up and find everybody dead?"
You can't run a ship like that...
naww, what makes you think that?
We'll see if his stones stick around long enough to get this done.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
You're kidding, right?
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Which is probably why Reid is backing this, as it's now safe for him to do so.
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They are, as is an overwhelming super majority of the population at large.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Yeah, he told Baucus to man the fuck up and stop coddling the republicans. Of course the less reported story was that literally the next day he had a two hour meeting with the republicans on the committee he assured them he didn't mean it.
Say what? Gillibrand is just shy of bottom of the barrel in seniority because of Franken and the extent of the juice she has is that Schumer keeps batting for her because he wants to make sure the seat doesn't flip (which it was potentially in danger of doing before Pataki waved off a run) and he's making a point about who's the bitch and who's the butch with the state Dem party.
Arch,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_goGR39m2k
Yes see werehippy that's called sarcasm...
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Your sarcasm detector is broken, werehippy.
edit- thanks, Preacher.
Fair enough. If you run around some of the NY dem blogs that's not that far out there a position and the urge to kick it in the teeth is pretty instinctive at this point.
I guess being on the other side of the country and going "Who?" was what nailed that the person pushing the legislation isn't exactly on Goslings All star senate team.
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Could be worse, could be Evan Bayh. Oh I hate that dipshit, I remember the speculation of him being a VP pick for Obama and I was like "Yeah if they want to see Mondale level of losses sure."
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I would guess 60 votes from the senate, majority from the house. The 60 would be hard to pick up because of jerk waters like Bayh, don't know if any republican senators are in states where they would have to worry about voting no on legislation assisting gay rights.
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One meat vessel is as good as another, I doubt broodax understands discrimination at all.
The problem is there really just isn't time for it, according to the traditional way things work. We're already significantly behind where we need to be to get a bill through each house before the recess, and that's considered a must do to have healthcare before the end of October. After which you need to push like hell to get energy before the end of the year. And once we're in an election year it'll either take an act of god or Reid and Obama deciding to play hardball to get anything major or remotely controversial through.
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