I wanted to buy an InvisibleSHIELD for my phone but I keep putting it off.
Variable: As much as it might hurt to see what you're missing and then not get the device after all it's important to figure out whether or not a lot of the applications appeal to you. A great deal of the device's appeal comes from the library of applications and if you don't find yourself interested in a great many of them then you might consider whether the iPhone provides something else you're interested in.
Before I bought the iPhone I downloaded iTunes and looked at the applications listed. I also checked websites for reviews. Although it wasn't until I finally bought it that I started finding a lot of my most favorite applications.
that case is rugged
it makes my phone look like it isn't some hipster faggot accessory and an actual piece of hardware i am cool with carrying on my person
your post is everything i hate about the stereotypes related to philosophy.
So you hate philosophy proper and enjoy non-philosophy.
That's fine.
No I just hate your perspective. That you're honestly crass enough to say "non-philosophy"
Terrible. You're just as bad as that stoned kid playing guitar hero and trying to get his deep thoughts across in a black and white composition journal.
Chemistry is not philosophy.
Cooking is not philosophy.
I think "non-philosophy" is a sensible category into which to put things which are not philosophy.
if it included images it'd be like, almost a terabyte in size because the images on wikipedia tend to be MASSIVE
it also cost $10
but it's nicely compressed and well-formatted for the iphone screen so i am cool with paying $10 for having the closest to a real life equivalent to The Guide
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I wanted to buy an InvisibleSHIELD for my phone but I keep putting it off.
Variable: As much as it might hurt to see what you're missing and then not get the device after all it's important to figure out whether or not a lot of the applications appeal to you. A great deal of the device's appeal comes from the library of applications and if you don't find yourself interested in a great many of them then you might consider whether the iPhone provides something else you're interested in.
Before I bought the iPhone I downloaded iTunes and looked at the applications listed. I also checked websites for reviews. Although it wasn't until I finally bought it that I started finding a lot of my most favorite applications.
you're good at convincing me to do things I want to do.
your post is everything i hate about the stereotypes related to philosophy.
So you hate philosophy proper and enjoy non-philosophy.
That's fine.
No I just hate your perspective. That you're honestly crass enough to say "non-philosophy"
Terrible. You're just as bad as that stoned kid playing guitar hero and trying to get his deep thoughts across in a black and white composition journal.
Chemistry is not philosophy.
Cooking is not philosophy.
I think "non-philosophy" is a sensible category into which to put things which are not philosophy.
Things like Dewey and Rorty.
Seriously. You're fucking absurd.
Sentimental education is a good idea and the philosophy behind it is sound. But go ahead say something asinine like
"yes but how do I know those other people exist?"
it's the most immature perspective an education individual can take.
If I was still playing EVE and there was a robust EVE application I would shit my pants and pay $0.99 for it.
If there was a robust EVE client for any platform at all that would be a good start.
Stuff like EVEmon and other similar applications didn't do it for you?
I have a lot of tolerance for bullshit in a games UI. I absolutely love Dwarf Fortress. And the EvE UI was so bad I had to quit after a month.
Example, one which is a constant unending annoyance but more importantly is emblematic of how incompetent the UI as a whole is, you cannot even grind "mobs" (npc ships) without navigating through several tiny mouse-only (no keyboard shortcut) flyout menus. Approach, orbit, fire weapons etc...
If I was still playing EVE and there was a robust EVE application I would shit my pants and pay $0.99 for it.
If there was a robust EVE client for any platform at all that would be a good start.
Stuff like EVEmon and other similar applications didn't do it for you?
I have a lot of tolerance for bullshit in a games UI. I absolutely love Dwarf Fortress. And the EvE UI was so bad I had to quit after a month.
Example, one which is a constant unending annoyance but more importantly is emblematic of how incompetent the UI as a whole is, you cannot even grind "mobs" (npc ships) without navigating through several tiny mouse-only (no keyboard shortcut) flyout menus. Approach, orbit, fire weapons etc...
Oh, I wasn't talking about the EVE client. I meant the applications people create to manage your account and characters. You'd have access to your character sheet, you could plan out your skill progression, you'd have access to all of the in-game information on skills and marketplace items.
i don't like philosophy in general as a field of academic study specifically because of people like _J_
Seriously. He's making me look bad while i'm at cold stone enjoying ice cream and accepting higher ideas while applying them to life without being an inconsequential douche.
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edited July 2009
To reference what _J_ said in the philosophy thread, I am a person who likes to go get ice cream.
And yet people like _J_ often try to engage me in philosophical discussion anyway.
i don't like philosophy in general as a field of academic study specifically because of people like _J_
Seriously. He's making me look bad while i'm at cold stone enjoying ice cream and accepting higher ideas while applying them to life without being an inconsequential douche.
i find philosophy students in general impossible to talk to about their major
often, they're so fully engrossed in academia and the minutia of how everything is classified that they lose sight of actually looking at life itself and forming original thought
instead they are concerned how everything gets labeled compared to everything else that has been thought of ever
and it just makes me frown
my alma mater is the school of life is pretty harsh. i'm not really an academic at all. i find philosophy interesting but i find that those who devote themselves to it primarily drown in it and lose the ability to think like normal people
i don't like philosophy in general as a field of academic study specifically because of people like _J_
Seriously. He's making me look bad while i'm at cold stone enjoying ice cream and accepting higher ideas while applying them to life without being an inconsequential douche.
You are looking at this in totally the wrong way. According to _J_ there is a clear division between the bullshit nonsense he studies and everything else. A mighty wall between things which are of any use or value whatsoever and the broken Non Thought that fills his days. And I submit that we should forever maintain that wall; never forgetting what it holds back.
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Philosophy does not aim, nor should it aim, to be practical.
Practicality does not matter; only the truth does.
i don't like philosophy in general as a field of academic study specifically because of people like _J_
Seriously. He's making me look bad while i'm at cold stone enjoying ice cream and accepting higher ideas while applying them to life without being an inconsequential douche.
i find philosophy students in general impossible to talk to about their major
often, they're so fully engrossed in academia and the minutia of how everything is classified that they lose sight of actually looking at life itself and forming original thought
instead they are concerned how everything gets labeled compared to everything else that has been thought of ever
and it just makes me frown
my alma mater is the school of life is pretty harsh. i'm not really an academic at all. i find philosophy interesting but i find that those who devote themselves to it primarily drown in it and lose the ability to think like normal people
There's a ton of posturing in the community. Tons of it. It reeks of it actually.
I try to avoid the stench as much as possible and just not say anything but god damn sometimes it gets under my skin.
i don't like philosophy in general as a field of academic study specifically because of people like _J_
Seriously. He's making me look bad while i'm at cold stone enjoying ice cream and accepting higher ideas while applying them to life without being an inconsequential douche.
You are looking at this in totally the wrong way. According to _J_ there is a clear division between the bullshit nonsense he studies and everything else. A mighty wall between things which are of any use or value whatsoever and the broken Non Thought that fills his days. And I submit that we should forever maintain that wall; never forgetting what it holds back.
No. In his quote he considered philosophers to not be philosophy because of some of the applications of their particularly philosophies.
When applicable I apply it to my real life or attempt to use it to benefit the lives of others. Sorry I know that makes me a nutter but it just seems like the ethical and right thing to do.
If you figure out that ice cream doesn't Exist, but eat it anyway, what happens?
You begin debating what causes the perception of eating ice cream and if it does not exist what must also not exist or to be more to the point what are the core necessiticies required for existence.
If you figure out that ice cream doesn't Exist, but eat it anyway, what happens?
Based on Podlys usual line of argument, you just redefine Exist (oooh, maybe with a strikethrough font, or by drawing little arrows above every other letter) so you are still right by definition. But also get the ice cream.
i find philosophy students in general impossible to talk to about their major
I want to find a way to talk to people about what I do. But... Neighbor had a cookout. Neighbor is a grad student in ceramics. So he had some of his ceramics / metalworking friends come over.
I was talking to one of the guys and asked, "What do you do?" He said, "I make things like this.." and he pulled out a little metal container he had made. Then he asked me, "What do you do?"
And as soon as I said "coherent metaphysical and epistemological system" his eyes glazed over.
Which does not mean that he is stupid. Hell, he can fashion things from metal with his hands and simple tools. I could never do that. But when I say simply, "I try to articulate what is." I don't know if people know what that means.
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edited July 2009
Hmm, I sense myself generating a feeling of superiority because of my views on philosophy, which I hate, so I'm going to stop now.
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If you figure out that ice cream doesn't Exist, but eat it anyway, what happens?
You didn't eat ice cream. You were deceived into believing you were eating something that did not exist. But where did the idea of ice cream come from, then?
Sigh. This is why I avoided the philosophy thread. There's a lot of wonderful debate in there but then someone tries to turn it into the school of athens and it all gets thrown out the window.
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that case is rugged
it makes my phone look like it isn't some hipster faggot accessory and an actual piece of hardware i am cool with carrying on my person
Stuff like EVEmon and other similar applications didn't do it for you?
Chemistry is not philosophy.
Cooking is not philosophy.
I think "non-philosophy" is a sensible category into which to put things which are not philosophy.
Things like Dewey and Rorty.
2gb, as it's text only.
if it included images it'd be like, almost a terabyte in size because the images on wikipedia tend to be MASSIVE
it also cost $10
but it's nicely compressed and well-formatted for the iphone screen so i am cool with paying $10 for having the closest to a real life equivalent to The Guide
you're good at convincing me to do things I want to do.
is this fake surprise or actual surprise?
I'm a bit annoyed with him. He promised he would stay in [chat], but then got caught up in other threads.
To access one's calendar and other things, yes.
I'm mostly pausing because I downloaded an app and the app asked me to enter my username and password for WoW. And any jackass can make an iphone app.
So I'm reading a few other sites to see if this is legit or not.
Seriously. You're fucking absurd.
Sentimental education is a good idea and the philosophy behind it is sound. But go ahead say something asinine like
"yes but how do I know those other people exist?"
it's the most immature perspective an education individual can take.
I really liked it.
I have a lot of tolerance for bullshit in a games UI. I absolutely love Dwarf Fortress. And the EvE UI was so bad I had to quit after a month.
Example, one which is a constant unending annoyance but more importantly is emblematic of how incompetent the UI as a whole is, you cannot even grind "mobs" (npc ships) without navigating through several tiny mouse-only (no keyboard shortcut) flyout menus. Approach, orbit, fire weapons etc...
http://download.wikimedia.org/
http://download.freebase.com/wex/
I agree completely. Though probably for different reasons.
Actual. Well, not really. I figured he was an alt. I was just surprised that I hadn't heard about him getting perma-fracted for it.
Oh, I wasn't talking about the EVE client. I meant the applications people create to manage your account and characters. You'd have access to your character sheet, you could plan out your skill progression, you'd have access to all of the in-game information on skills and marketplace items.
Seriously. He's making me look bad while i'm at cold stone enjoying ice cream and accepting higher ideas while applying them to life without being an inconsequential douche.
And yet people like _J_ often try to engage me in philosophical discussion anyway.
i find philosophy students in general impossible to talk to about their major
often, they're so fully engrossed in academia and the minutia of how everything is classified that they lose sight of actually looking at life itself and forming original thought
instead they are concerned how everything gets labeled compared to everything else that has been thought of ever
and it just makes me frown
my alma mater is the school of life is pretty harsh. i'm not really an academic at all. i find philosophy interesting but i find that those who devote themselves to it primarily drown in it and lose the ability to think like normal people
wow.
You are looking at this in totally the wrong way. According to _J_ there is a clear division between the bullshit nonsense he studies and everything else. A mighty wall between things which are of any use or value whatsoever and the broken Non Thought that fills his days. And I submit that we should forever maintain that wall; never forgetting what it holds back.
Practicality does not matter; only the truth does.
There's a ton of posturing in the community. Tons of it. It reeks of it actually.
I try to avoid the stench as much as possible and just not say anything but god damn sometimes it gets under my skin.
No. In his quote he considered philosophers to not be philosophy because of some of the applications of their particularly philosophies.
He also thinks what you said though.
sure man, whatever
in the mean time, i will eat a cheeseburger, fuck my girlfriend, and then go play TF2
you have fun uh
"pursuing truth"
heh
Really?
I think it a sensible way to divide people:
1) People who want to go eat ice cream.
2) People who want to figure out if ice cream Exists.
It's not a qualitative claim; I imagine the people in category 1 to be quite happy. It's just the Daniel Dennett quote:
"A philosopher is someone who says, We know it's possible in practice; we're trying to work out if it's possible in principle!"
Are you ironically referencing Joseph Wood Crutch or are you serious here? Because for all _J_ is a douche I actually prefer his nonsense to this.
a pursuit i consider outrageously worthless
but you have fun with that
lots of people have hobbies that have no merit in the real world
hell, i play dungeons & dragons, for christ's sake
When applicable I apply it to my real life or attempt to use it to benefit the lives of others. Sorry I know that makes me a nutter but it just seems like the ethical and right thing to do.
But what is right? What are ethics?
Yawn.
You begin debating what causes the perception of eating ice cream and if it does not exist what must also not exist or to be more to the point what are the core necessiticies required for existence.
Then you follow that with what is existence.
Based on Podlys usual line of argument, you just redefine Exist (oooh, maybe with a strikethrough font, or by drawing little arrows above every other letter) so you are still right by definition. But also get the ice cream.
I want to find a way to talk to people about what I do. But... Neighbor had a cookout. Neighbor is a grad student in ceramics. So he had some of his ceramics / metalworking friends come over.
I was talking to one of the guys and asked, "What do you do?" He said, "I make things like this.." and he pulled out a little metal container he had made. Then he asked me, "What do you do?"
And as soon as I said "coherent metaphysical and epistemological system" his eyes glazed over.
Which does not mean that he is stupid. Hell, he can fashion things from metal with his hands and simple tools. I could never do that. But when I say simply, "I try to articulate what is." I don't know if people know what that means.
You didn't eat ice cream. You were deceived into believing you were eating something that did not exist. But where did the idea of ice cream come from, then?
baby with the bathwater. i'm sayin'