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APZonerunner
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So, today I went out and bought the Casino Royale DVD.
I was fairly peeved to find the same "YOU WOULDN'T STEAL FROM A STORE. DOWNLOADING PIRATED FILMS IS STEALING" video that's been on the 24 DVDs since Season 4 attached to the DVD. Oh well, I think. Easy enough to press next.
When I pressed next I was greeted with a fantastic surprise - three movie trailers before I can even get to the menu, something I haven't seen since the days I used to buy South Park episodes on VHS. Skippable, thankfully, but still rather annoying. Even worse, I've heard since that on some titles these adverts are unskippable.
Is this really necessary? I thought we were past this? I thought it was pretty accepted that ads for other movies and shows could be placed in the special features where people can choose to watch them if they want to. Right now it's only certain studios doing it (Sony, it seems, and Fox, from my experience with Casino Royale and 24, while others - Borat, for example, has no ads - I think that's Universal) but this is worrying that it's going to become trend. Worse, I imagine Blu-Ray is tarnished with the same problem as most of the movies on Blu-Ray right now are from Sony, and as such it'll set a standard for others.
So... yeah. This is in part a complaint and in part starting a discussion -do you feel ads like this are a problem? Or are they something you don't mind or even appreciate as they are? Do you think it will set a precedent for movie discs to come?
I was fairly peeved to find the same "YOU WOULDN'T STEAL FROM A STORE. DOWNLOADING PIRATED FILMS IS STEALING" video that's been on the 24 DVDs since Season 4 attached to the DVD. Oh well, I think. Easy enough to press next.
When I pressed next I was greeted with a fantastic surprise - three movie trailers before I can even get to the menu, something I haven't seen since the days I used to buy South Park episodes on VHS. Skippable, thankfully, but still rather annoying. Even worse, I've heard since that on some titles these adverts are unskippable.
Is this really necessary? I thought we were past this? I thought it was pretty accepted that ads for other movies and shows could be placed in the special features where people can choose to watch them if they want to. Right now it's only certain studios doing it (Sony, it seems, and Fox, from my experience with Casino Royale and 24, while others - Borat, for example, has no ads - I think that's Universal) but this is worrying that it's going to become trend. Worse, I imagine Blu-Ray is tarnished with the same problem as most of the movies on Blu-Ray right now are from Sony, and as such it'll set a standard for others.
So... yeah. This is in part a complaint and in part starting a discussion -do you feel ads like this are a problem? Or are they something you don't mind or even appreciate as they are? Do you think it will set a precedent for movie discs to come?
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Anyways, no more DVDs till I get a HD format on my PC.
If a company would make a DVD player that would go straight to the menu every time, it would sell like hotcakes
However, I do not see things getting better. It seems that as time goes on the ads and rpeviews before you even get to the menu are becoming mor enumerous and longer, and it won't be long before more and more of them are unskippable, and that's the part that really pisses me off.
If they're going to put 'forced' ads on the DVD (or game) I paid for, I expect to pay less.
And no, I wouldn't steal a DVD, that's why I bought this one.
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What bothers me the most about the same problem showing up on DVD's is that I own the damn thing! If they want to pull that crap let them do it on special "rent-only" copies of the movies.
Oh yeah, because I gave you money so I can have the pleasure of being a captive audience to your movie peddling.
What's really sad is in many circumstances, you can download a movie for free in less time than it takes to go to the store and buy it, and you don't have to deal with commercials and bullshit "Don't steal me!" videos.
What pisses me off is when a disc doesn't work in a perfectly legit standalone DVD player due to really shoddy DRM. I'm looking right at you, Buena Vista.
It's gotten to the point where when I buy a movie or series, it goes straight from the box into the computer, reformatted without the excess crap, and burned onto a blank disc. After about an hour, my retail copy stays nice and shiny on the shelf, and I don't have to deal with throwing a temper tantrum every time I want to watch something.
It's a sad state of affairs when the pirates are the good guys. I never thought I'd see the day when store-bought media direct from the company would be the lesser quality product.
This goes for music, too.
Or that would be the case if people in the movie industry weren't grossly over-paid. I appreciate entertainment, but do actors, musicians, and athletes really deserve that much money? Farmers produce food. You know, food. People need food to live. Farmers do not make $20 million in 6 months.
I digress, though, just because 10% of the population controls 90% of the money, this isn't the place to bitch about it.
I thought things were like that too but that does not seem true anymore.
I am a freaking nerd.
"You wouldnt steal a car!"
No, but when I can copy cars over the Internet for free without fear of getting caught it would be mighty tempting.
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No, don't think I would have the willpower to stay away from that.
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Solution: The movie companies should remove the ads from the legal DVDs and use the internet to spread illegal copies with that stupid ad. Or just give up.
This is the only situation worth arguing about. They could put 8,000 ads on your DVD that play by default and if you can easily and quickly skip them, I think it's kind of dumb to make a big issue about this.
Also, I rather like trailers. If they are skippable, I see no problem.
Just as well anyway. DRM aside, Blu-Ray drives for the PC start at $600 and go up from there, and HDDVD drives are non-existent at retail.
Regardless, this annoys me to no end too. The only way this would ever change is if consumers stopped buying DVD's with ads though, and that's just not gonna happen. Luckily, my home DVD player seems special in some way, and lets me skip most anything I want.
yes! i was watching the office last night and i was irritated.
Really not going to happen. I care passionatly about this, but still end up buying DVDs with forced ads. They don't have to put anything on the box saying if they have them or not.
Someone should make a Wiki for it...
I immediately ramp it up to 128x when I get a disc with that horse-shit on it. I'm surprised they don't disable that.
Those ones that list by country, instead of by language? I used to be annoyed by that until I realised, just click Australia.
My mom's DVD player jumps straight into the movie, it even skips over the menu. Kind of a pain though when I want to change a setting before watching the movie.
Hell I'd take that. Pressing menu isn't hard.
You know, because since I'm watching Chip'n'Dale Rescue Rangers Season* 2, I must be interested in Peter Pan and the Disney Princess Collection.
(*season = volume. Disney.)
At least they can be skipped, surprisingly.
Fun fact: some of their discs are hard-wired to not be repeatable. Neither Narnia, Cars, nor Pirates can be put on repeat.
Probably to keep stores from using the movies to display televisions.
Only problem is, having unskippable trailers before a movie is complete and utter bullshit. No way around it. I really like it when the main menu has a "Trailers" option in it somewhere, where I can check out the clips on my own time.
The biggest irony is that every time I see the insulting "You wouldn't steal a car..." ad that I can't skip through on a DVD, I am tempted to just start pirating movies out of spite. One step closer to it, anyway.
Imagine what it'll be like a year or more from now. I realy hope that when companies line up the graphs that show the amount of DRM and trailers/ads being inserted into movie releases compared to the amount of pirated movies being downloaded... well, I really hope that both of the graphs match up.
edit: I heard that the 360 HD-DVD addon was compatible with PCs with homemade drivers. Is that true?
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Yeah, but then all male characters call each other Bruce and keep saying stuff like "g'day" and "put another shrimp on the barby" at seemingly random times. This really hampered my enjoyment of BBC's Shakespeare Tragedies collection.
Shoot, I honestly cannot remember.
However, I do know she bought it from Costco and it is a DVD/VHS combo player.
I think it may be this one though...
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That's a bit ironic. When I spent a summer semester in England and saw a movie there, I was annoyed to find they showed non-trailer commercials before the flick. A few years later, American theaters picked up the habit. I've always blamed you folk. :P
Their ilk have also brought upon us those stupid game shows where you call in to answer something like words beginning with the letter "t" or what's wrong with these identical pictures. For shame, Europe. For shame.
Amen.
Just as well anyway. DRM aside, Blu-Ray drives for the PC start at $600 and go up from there, and HDDVD drives are non-existent at retail.[/QUOTE]
Doesn't the 360 HD drive work on PC's?
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Sort of, I don't think it's officially supported but they do work.
yes it does. and there's no reason zack cant' enjoy HD dvds the same way he does regular dvds. you can rip them to the HDD and play them from there to a tv all the same.
And now they're gone.
There was some sort of law passed, i'm not sure if it was federal or local. Anyway, the movie times the theaters put up have to start the actual movie at that time. if they say 7:30, the movie itself has to start at 7:30. They have to figure out how long their trailers/ads are and run them before that.
It was pretty annoying when we were younger. You'd wait for it to start by playing in the arcade, and sit through five minutes of trailers..