The thing where farmers have their crops contaminated by patented genes, which would naturally happen, and then end up having to pay corporations for it is so messed up.
It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.
The thing where farmers have their crops contaminated by patented genes, which would naturally happen, and then end up having to pay corporations for it is so messed up.
It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.
I don't think it's fair to say "GMO crops" as if they are all made by the same people and treated the same way.
Cotton in the US is almost completely GMO, with very little controversy.
There would be no more papaya, at least not in Hawaii, if it weren't for GM papaya that are resistant to the ringspot virus.
Monsanto is run by dirtbags, but a lot of companies are not.
I don't think it's fair to say "GMO crops" as if they are all made by the same people and treated the same way.
Cotton in the US is almost completely GMO, with very little controversy.
There would be no more papaya, at least not in Hawaii, if it weren't for GM papaya that are resistant to the ringspot virus.
Monsanto is run by dirtbags, but a lot of companies are not.
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My only point is that Monsanto would still exist and would still be quite profitable if they could not patent gene sequences, as they can still patent their processes and they can still sell their products. The argument that there would be no commercial biotech if we were to withhold patents from gene sequences just doesn't hold water. Yes, there would be a bit less. Yes, Monsanto would probably trade down a few dollars on the share and their market cap might drop by a billion dollars or so. No, commercial biotech would not simply evaporate, and no, a billion dollars to them isn't really that much money.
one should not be able to create life, patent it, unleash it on the world, and then expect to be paid when your product escapes and becomes useful to someone else
it's a creation of such a fundamentally different character than anything else that is ever patented that it should have been looked at a little more carefully when the first applications came in
on one side of the argument you have: "commercial science will proceed at a moderately slower pace and won't be as profitable to a very few people" and on the other side you have all of the property law that already governs ownership of living things. If you've created a papaya resistant to a particular virus by genetic modification, are you really doing something qualitatively different than creating a new breed of domestic dog through selective breeding? Should Mendel have applied for a patent for his peas? No, because it's just silly to think you could have rights to something that is going to start mutating and evolving the moment you take your hands off it.
The thing where farmers have their crops contaminated by patented genes, which would naturally happen, and then end up having to pay corporations for it is so messed up.
It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.
Their pricing structure probably takes wasted seed into account, so if they allowed re-using wasted seed they would just charge more per pound of seed so that they got the same amount of money per pound of expected yield. It would just be more work for everyone involved.
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edited May 2010
ADDRESS ALL COMPLAINTS TO THE MONSANTO CORPORATION
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edited May 2010
I could really go from some fruit loops right now.
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What spring does with the cherry trees.
Only in situations where they are an improvement over the original butt, and come from a willing butt donor who has signed the appropriate release forms.
maybe you should go fuck yourself, shank, it's one thirty in the morning and I'm not changing the world with my stupid jokes any more than you are with your righteous indignation
The practical effect of a thought has no bearing on the moral value of the thought!
Do you know, to this day, I get the two of you mixed up?
college-aged s-names with brown hair
I think the similarities stop there, but I'd probably get us mixed up too
I used to get Weaver and Callius mixed up for no good reason so SHRUGGLES
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1. Peanut butter hamburger is better than it sounds, but avocado on hamburger is even better.
2. Craig Venter is one step closer to being God, and I don't really mind at all.
3. I successfully convinced my mom that organ donation is okay. But I understand the superstition about having your body intact. I still don't want me or anybody in my family to be cremated.
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It really is. They are also prevented from gathering their wasted seeds and re-using them. I don't understand the legal basis for that shit at all and it is fucked in half.
I think that is more of an effect of Monsanto's shitty corporate policy and less a direct result of patenting though.
which is my main problem with GMO crops
Cotton in the US is almost completely GMO, with very little controversy.
There would be no more papaya, at least not in Hawaii, if it weren't for GM papaya that are resistant to the ringspot virus.
Monsanto is run by dirtbags, but a lot of companies are not.
fair enough
one should not be able to create life, patent it, unleash it on the world, and then expect to be paid when your product escapes and becomes useful to someone else
it's a creation of such a fundamentally different character than anything else that is ever patented that it should have been looked at a little more carefully when the first applications came in
on one side of the argument you have: "commercial science will proceed at a moderately slower pace and won't be as profitable to a very few people" and on the other side you have all of the property law that already governs ownership of living things. If you've created a papaya resistant to a particular virus by genetic modification, are you really doing something qualitatively different than creating a new breed of domestic dog through selective breeding? Should Mendel have applied for a patent for his peas? No, because it's just silly to think you could have rights to something that is going to start mutating and evolving the moment you take your hands off it.
Their pricing structure probably takes wasted seed into account, so if they allowed re-using wasted seed they would just charge more per pound of seed so that they got the same amount of money per pound of expected yield. It would just be more work for everyone involved.
What spring does with the cherry trees.
okay so
say you're in a situation where it is either die or get a donated kidney
you'd...rather die?
What spring does with the cherry trees.
butt science
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Because God was like, "Let there be light."
No, that was Multivac.
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I like you.
Fruit Loops are awesome.
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Even though the pieces aren't fruit shaped anymore
They used to not be fruit shaped a long time ago.
What the hell though, when did they change it?
gimme some lunchideas
I bought what I thought was a fresh lemon smoothie today and it turned out the recipe was lemon, ginger, tomato and celery.
Thinking of going back. And poisoning the guy who made it.
2. Craig Venter is one step closer to being God, and I don't really mind at all.
3. I successfully convinced my mom that organ donation is okay. But I understand the superstition about having your body intact. I still don't want me or anybody in my family to be cremated.
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but they better not sell it to some asshole wig company or something
I read Stiff! I know what they do!
Of course they're not going to turn your body into a wig.
If you're looking for a quality wig, you want horse hair, not Kuribo's shoe.
Your body will be turned into a potassium-rich wig paste.
I'll never eat another banana again! then their wig paste won't have the necessary potassium and I will have the last laugh
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