Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
ugh, feminism is not egalitarianism.
feminist views on "equality" are typically not actually about being "equal" and it is really frustrating.
Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
You don't see many marches for colon or prostate cancer thats for sure
There needs to be more awareness of both, as they are both pretty damn fatal right?
the gift bags are a little extreme at their events tho
Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
You don't see many marches for colon or prostate cancer thats for sure
There needs to be more awareness of both, as they are both pretty damn fatal right?
Fuck both.
If we want equality we need to start ignoring breast cancer until the average life expectancy of women falls to match that of men in this country.
Only then can we start paying attention to women's health issues again.
Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
You don't see many marches for colon or prostate cancer thats for sure
There needs to be more awareness of both, as they are both pretty damn fatal right?
the gift bags are a little extreme at their events tho
and the brown awareness ribbons never really caught on
Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
ugh, feminism is not egalitarianism.
feminist views on "equality" are typically not actually about being "equal" and it is really frustrating.
Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
Except that both (or multiple) sides of these issues do get attention.
"Why don't you care more about men?" or "Why don't you care more about white people?" is first and foremost a way to shut up women and non-white activist types and distract them from focusing on the issues that disproportionately impact them. It sets a completely vague and ever-shifting goalpost of "paying enough attention" to the presumed negative impact of certain cultural or social or political norms on whites and/or men.
I'd use "the p-word" but apparently that's anathema in these discussions.
That just sounds dismissive. Asking for equal attention on certain issues isn't a tactic to keep people down, it is a legitimate request, deserving of a response.
Equality is strange. Women have it worse, no one will argue otherwise. But you'll often find people who decide that because of that, every women's issue gets priority, and that men's issues are so low on the totem pole as to be an after thought, if not negligible. Issues that mainly affect women, but also affect men, must be handled from the women's angle first and foremost, according to some. And it's strange. I'm all for equality, but not if it's a balancing of scales where one side is neglected while the other side receives sole focus until the two sides are matched. Both sides should receive attention, you'd think that would be implied by the word Equality.
Except that both (or multiple) sides of these issues do get attention.
"Why don't you care more about men?" or "Why don't you care more about white people?" is first and foremost a way to shut up women and non-white activist types and distract them from focusing on the issues that disproportionately impact them. It sets a completely vague and ever-shifting goalpost of "paying enough attention" to the presumed negative impact of certain cultural or social or political norms on whites and/or men.
I'd use "the p-word" but apparently that's anathema in these discussions.
It's basically "don't shoot the messenger." And you're right, it's a damn effective criticism tactic, Al Gore is practically a walking joke these days because of those kinds of criticism.
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I don't care about yer gender issues! It's bad design!
Bad design is the one eternal truth.
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Man, I had to read the Moynihan Reports for an af-am class
That shit is sad to read about, but it makes a somewhat bizarre conclusion that the matriarchal undertones of African American families was what was causing all the black people's problems and that they'd be better off if only they could somehow maintain the nuclear family composition
Now I'm not exactly a cultural relativist but I think Moynihan missed the forest for the trees
The good old 1960s, right?
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"and the morning stars I have seen
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Facebook giving me ads about "Women seeking older men".
I'm 30, goddamnit.
I'm just happy they got rid of all the "[Your Age] and still single?" ads. I don't like advertising that is literally taunting me for my lack of romantic success.
The general thrust of feminism, outside of ignorant teenage misandrists, is that things which are typically considered feminine shouldn't be considered innately lesser than things typically considered masculine, and that people of whatever gender should be able to participate in those things without stigma.
Feminism says that women should be able to wear suits AND be doting caretakers and men can wear suits AND be doting caretakers and that whatever they choose is cool.
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ugh, feminism is not egalitarianism.
feminist views on "equality" are typically not actually about being "equal" and it is really frustrating.
/notafeminist
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the gift bags are a little extreme at their events tho
The aggregated family unit in America takes the nature of a patriarchy
outliers are exceptions that prove the point
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Fuck both.
If we want equality we need to start ignoring breast cancer until the average life expectancy of women falls to match that of men in this country.
Only then can we start paying attention to women's health issues again.
Otherwise you're just perpetuating inequality.
Let me show you to the door.
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and the brown awareness ribbons never really caught on
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Thank you, Mister Limbaugh.
Cept tape's a woman last I checked jucar, but you go ahead and ignore her point of view because you don't agree with it.
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and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
Yeah, I wasn't trying to say anything about anything larger than me.
And like most things I'm also pretty sure this is something that changed when I left backwoods Canada and moved to the US.
this post is best read in the voice of Jackie Gleason as Ralph Kramden
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"The world is flat" is also a point of view. And I don't care what slinger's crotch looks like, they're still goosing.
Preacher checks all the forumers.
She watches The Venture Bros. and enjoys it. She is basically a man!
Bang zoom to the moon alice!
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But will not countenance inter or trans options for his 50 character database field.
I'm 30, goddamnit.
That just sounds dismissive. Asking for equal attention on certain issues isn't a tactic to keep people down, it is a legitimate request, deserving of a response.
Unless they're feminists.
Because, fuck them crazy bitches, right fellas?
75% up the hill!
glad to see you're still fighting the good fight
I have you all indexed with choice words describing each and every forumer.
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It's basically "don't shoot the messenger." And you're right, it's a damn effective criticism tactic, Al Gore is practically a walking joke these days because of those kinds of criticism.
Bad design is the one eternal truth.
I don't want to fuck any crazy bitches.....
but can we just ignore the crazy people regardless of what they believe in?
are mine "ghost" and "fucker"
In a strange societal regression, teenagers of today expect to be pregnant by 14.
I'll even extend support to the gay white men eddy, this is an olive branch I'm ok to extend as long as you don't like stick it up your ass.
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That shit is sad to read about, but it makes a somewhat bizarre conclusion that the matriarchal undertones of African American families was what was causing all the black people's problems and that they'd be better off if only they could somehow maintain the nuclear family composition
Now I'm not exactly a cultural relativist but I think Moynihan missed the forest for the trees
The good old 1960s, right?
and the gengars who are guiding me" -- W.S. Merwin
I'm just happy they got rid of all the "[Your Age] and still single?" ads. I don't like advertising that is literally taunting me for my lack of romantic success.
Feminism says that women should be able to wear suits AND be doting caretakers and men can wear suits AND be doting caretakers and that whatever they choose is cool.
So you've got nothing then?
Just insults?
Seems like you'd have some sort of coherent point or argument if you were really so terribly right and others so terribly wrong.
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