I missed the reasoning behind Lemminghead. I will though allow myself to go ahead with the assumption that the mafia knew what they were doing, rather than it being pure chance, when they offed Cass.
The reasoning behind Lemminghead will have to be pretty good to top that.
!Thomamelas, I choose you.
Fair enough. We might want to make sure Elldren and I stay tied.
I find this soft network revelation more interesting than the Lemminghead bandwagon (though I agree that she's the type of low-post player we need to look at).
Given that Thomamelas was the first to come forward, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and vote for !Elldren
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I missed the reasoning behind Lemminghead. I will though allow myself to go ahead with the assumption that the mafia knew what they were doing, rather than it being pure chance, when they offed Cass.
The reasoning behind Lemminghead will have to be pretty good to top that.
!Thomamelas, I choose you.
Fair enough. We might want to make sure Elldren and I stay tied.
Remember, any ties within the top 3 are susceptible to actual Mafia shenanigans--just be aware that any ties within that range could end up with dead players.
For those that are against intentionally tying the Vote, don't forget to avoid ties further down the line.
Elldren, Farangu, and I are all tied for 2nd right now, for example, with 3 votes.
I missed the reasoning behind Lemminghead. I will though allow myself to go ahead with the assumption that the mafia knew what they were doing, rather than it being pure chance, when they offed Cass.
The reasoning behind Lemminghead will have to be pretty good to top that.
!Thomamelas, I choose you.
Fair enough. We might want to make sure Elldren and I stay tied.
You're at two now and she's at 3.
Well I can't very well vote for him twice
Nope, not in this game. :P
But, with Jason Todd's vote at #1083, we've got this:
(I'm heading home from work now. Will check back with the thread after some food, likely. I'd change my vote from LemmingHead to Farangu so we're no longer tied, but that brings #1 too close to #2 and also creates a tie for #2 with Elldren and Farangu.)
trying to read through all of this and make up my mind for tonight
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edited July 2011
We aren't.
This Lemminghead bandwagon is going to be so full of mafia.
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Then what is the reason behind Lemminghead being suspicious? Apart from not having posted much.
Thom and Elldren knew about a special - who was then killed. It might be chance, but it's hella more likely that purpose was behind it. Like statistically significantly more likely.
Ok well it's getting late over here so I'm going to have to vote. The intentional tie idea doesn't have the ubiquitous support it would require. I still agree with Laos in that even if the mafia fudged it we would at least gain some possible data to go on. So partly because he is in the position to catch up with the current first place vote incase you guys change your minds and partly because Thom has fingered them as the possible leak in the soft network that our dead vigilante was a part of, I'm going to vote for Elldren.
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Then what is the reason behind Lemminghead being suspicious? Apart from not having posted much.
Thom and Elldren knew about a special - who was then killed. It might be chance, but it's hella more likely that purpose was behind it. Like statistically significantly more likely.
Right, whereas Lemminghead is up because Spec finds her suspicious and then a bandwagon was formed
Then what is the reason behind Lemminghead being suspicious? Apart from not having posted much.
Thom and Elldren knew about a special - who was then killed. It might be chance, but it's hella more likely that purpose was behind it. Like statistically significantly more likely.
She was originally helpful and then devolved into "Oh oh I am so confused what is going on I am just gonna vote !blahblah like everyone else because WHAT is going on its all so crazy"
From what I can gather she isn't usually like that and has been silent all day (laying low, as I would do) in hopes this bandwagon moves elsewhere.
With Elldren backing her up (I think Ell is also mafia) I am convinced.
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edited July 2011
That was a bunch of reading in order to catch up.
!LaOs
!Elldren
We are not doing ties because that depends on every single player (50+) doing exactly what you need to do and that is never going to happen.
I missed the reasoning behind Lemminghead. I will though allow myself to go ahead with the assumption that the mafia knew what they were doing, rather than it being pure chance, when they offed Cass.
The reasoning behind Lemminghead will have to be pretty good to top that.
!Thomamelas, I choose you.
I support this message. !Thomamelas because he was slightly mean to me in the Film thread.
OK, this seems extremely suspicious. Since Elldren was called out by Thom, she has sounded consistently upset and passive-aggressive, rather than affirmatively defending herself. She's offered no information about their soft network - not even to say that she'd talk to Savant or to confirm what Thom told us. Hell, we don't even know which of them was contacted first. The lack of info, or even the public promise to reveal info to Savant, makes me even more suspicious.
The passive aggressive attitude is either Elldren being upset and acting as though she thinks it's hopeless to try and turn our attention away, or else it's Elldren being upset because she's mafia and she's going down either tonight or tomorrow with no influence on the village either way.
Along with !Lemminghead's behavior described earlier by spectre, and Element Brian's extra suspicious posting patterns, Elldren seems a clear choice. Half her posts are bitter or sarcastic, and she'd apparently rather see her and Thom go down together than take out the one she should be arguing is the real mafia... so I'm inclined to follow her own advice from day 1:
Are we still looking to set up a solid third place vote? Cause Farangu is a better choice then Thomamelas.
If one is taking out a possible mafia in a soft network, it seems silly to kill off the rest of the network before learning the results.
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Okay so I've been totally busy and totally useless almost all day. Meh. What exactly is the argument against Lemminghead?
Barely-active, bandwagon-jumper (though usually to the 2nd place wagon), and went from somewhat useful posts to constantly "what is going on; I'm so confused" posts. Mostly, the force of this vote is driven from TehSpectre.
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You're at two now and she's at 3.
Given that Thomamelas was the first to come forward, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and vote for !Elldren
Well I can't very well vote for him twice
For those that are against intentionally tying the Vote, don't forget to avoid ties further down the line.
Elldren, Farangu, and I are all tied for 2nd right now, for example, with 3 votes.
Nope, not in this game. :P
But, with Jason Todd's vote at #1083, we've got this:
LemmingHead - 8
Elldren - 3
Farangu - 3
LaOs - 3
Thomamelas - 3
Fiaryn; spool32 - 1
If Elldren changes her vote and it ties back up, she can make us waste another day having to vote her out. Same goes with Thom.
Survive as long as you can is better than just letting yourself die to the vote.
I still think Lemminghead should die.
I have a feeling not only will she not be involved in tonights final vote, but the vig will ignore her as well.
Urghagh
As of Post #1083, we actually stand like this:
LemmingHead - 8
Elldren - 4
Farangu - 3
LaOs - 3
Thomamelas - 2
Fiaryn; spool32 - 1
(I'm heading home from work now. Will check back with the thread after some food, likely. I'd change my vote from LemmingHead to Farangu so we're no longer tied, but that brings #1 too close to #2 and also creates a tie for #2 with Elldren and Farangu.)
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Why are we four-way-tying 2nd? I can only see thing ending in mass bloodshed and tears.
This Lemminghead bandwagon is going to be so full of mafia.
Thom and Elldren knew about a special - who was then killed. It might be chance, but it's hella more likely that purpose was behind it. Like statistically significantly more likely.
Right, whereas Lemminghead is up because Spec finds her suspicious and then a bandwagon was formed
From what I can gather she isn't usually like that and has been silent all day (laying low, as I would do) in hopes this bandwagon moves elsewhere.
With Elldren backing her up (I think Ell is also mafia) I am convinced.
!LaOs
!Elldren
We are not doing ties because that depends on every single player (50+) doing exactly what you need to do and that is never going to happen.
I'll keep my vote on Thom because I don't feel either is being more suspicious than the other.
I do however think it's important that one of them goes tonight.
To be perfectly honest, I think it would be best if both of us go.
I'm against ties on principle as they rarely go as desired and the only case where the mafia won't manipulate the tie is a pair of villagers
Lemming needs more of a lead so we can get clear 2nd and 3rd places
Comeon, Elldren
Or because I think he's the one who compromised our soft network and I think he's the mafia
I promise if you tell us, we won't vote for you.
I support this message. !Thomamelas because he was slightly mean to me in the Film thread.
since i am the very worst villager ever
i think i will vote for Honk.
it is an encouraging signature.
The passive aggressive attitude is either Elldren being upset and acting as though she thinks it's hopeless to try and turn our attention away, or else it's Elldren being upset because she's mafia and she's going down either tonight or tomorrow with no influence on the village either way.
Along with !Lemminghead's behavior described earlier by spectre, and Element Brian's extra suspicious posting patterns, Elldren seems a clear choice. Half her posts are bitter or sarcastic, and she'd apparently rather see her and Thom go down together than take out the one she should be arguing is the real mafia... so I'm inclined to follow her own advice from day 1:
LemmingHead for the vote.
Elldren for the vigilante, assuming it has no better target.
Tomorrow, we'll know if Thom has to go as well, and he can join Element Brian in the big sleep.
Don't forget you'll need to retract your previous vote first.
Why did Cass contact you?
If one is taking out a possible mafia in a soft network, it seems silly to kill off the rest of the network before learning the results.
Really this whole thing has gone kind of batshit for a vanilla phalla and I have no idea. But he strikes me as mafia.
I need crazy mechanics phalla to really shine.
but they're listening to every word I say
It being a soft network, there's nothing saying they can't both be Mafia.
(I don't know that they both are, just that it's completely possible.)
Because I am her friend
THERE ARE NO FRIENDS IN PHALLA. THERE IS ONLY DEATH.
Barely-active, bandwagon-jumper (though usually to the 2nd place wagon), and went from somewhat useful posts to constantly "what is going on; I'm so confused" posts. Mostly, the force of this vote is driven from TehSpectre.
She's suspicious.