This is pretty damned horrible and pretty damned interesting at the same time. Basically a meteorite hit (that's still being debated though) and caused a twenty foot deep by sixty foot wide crater, the bottom of which is full of bubbling and boiling water, even now. It's fumes and impact area are causing some kind of poisoning that's making everyone who gets near it sick.
While this is a tragedy, does anyone else find the concept of space radiation rock hitting earth kind of.... I dunno, interesting. It doesn't happen often, its a once in a lifetime kind of event.
I'm just waiting for reports that the Peruvian Justice Leauge has been formed, and is now ready to clean up Columbia...
Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
And then the first Peruium War began, with the West forming the GDI and the East forming the NOD. Be cool if it was a meteorite though. Its not its like some unknown gas, just some methane, I just made some of that like 5 minutes ago.
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reports have ruled out that the actual cause of the explosion was underground, but they are saying that something could have landed down and sparked the methane. There were to many witnesses that saw something fall from the sky. Researchers have been using the term "fireball" a lot, but they won't say what could have caused it.
Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Or it was aliens.
Everyone knows aliens always come out of space rocks.
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Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Try again.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
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Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Try again.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
That post was infinitely more impressive since your avatar is House..... good show man...
Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Try again.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
I've been following this story as much as possible; I find this kind of thing fascinating. From what I've gathered there are two pretty plausible theories circulating:
1. As mentioned, a regular meteor just happened to strike a pressurized pocket of noxious gas underground. Unlikely, but not impossible. Alternatively, the meteor itself may be made of heavy metals that were carried into the atmosphere by the vaporizing groundwater.
2. There are a lot of undocumented, aging Cold-War-era satellites with simple nuclear cores out there. It's not unthinkable that one of them could deorbit and crash. Again, as the groundwater vaporized on impact, the radioactive material would be spread through the air - fallout, basically. Many of the symptoms displayed by people in the area are also associated with mild radiation poisoning.
Either way, it's a crazy story. The fact that the water at the bottom of the crater is still boiling is very strange - it means that either there's a supply of gas bubbles coming up through the water or whatever object sits under there is still radiating enough energy to boil the water.
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Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Try again.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
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Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Try again.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
yeah, I don't really go for the whole, "hypoxia over an open area" either.. it's the fucking martians
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
Well, I was really rebutting the idea that Methane can't cause sickness; anything that replaces oxygen in the air can make you feel ill. It's not a binary "feelin' fine" or "asphyxiated" thing.
But yeah, you're unlikely to get it in that kind of concentration in an open environment.
The story's pretty light on details, but
People who visited the scene have been complaining of headaches, vomiting and nausea after inhaling gases.
Suggests to me that people who go peer into the crater come away feeling ill. Now it's a good bet that if you're peering down at a pool of water with gas bubbling out of it, you're inhaling the gasses bubbling out of it.If the gas happens to be an oxygen antagonist, you could potentially have hypoxic symptoms even while surrounded by oxygen.
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
Well, I was really rebutting the idea that Methane can't cause sickness; anything that replaces oxygen in the air can make you feel ill. It's not a binary "feelin' fine" or "asphyxiated" thing.
But yeah, you're unlikely to get it in that kind of concentration in an open environment.
The story's pretty light on details, but
People who visited the scene have been complaining of headaches, vomiting and nausea after inhaling gases.
Suggests to me that people who go peer into the crater come away feeling ill. Now it's a good bet that if you're peering down at a pool of water with gas bubbling out of it, you're inhaling the gasses bubbling out of it.If the gas happens to be an oxygen antagonist, you could potentially have hypoxic symptoms even while surrounded by oxygen.
Huh. That sounds reasonable.
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Couldn't it be an underground source of methane or something that finally found its way to the surface? If it's under high enough pressure, it could make a pretty big crater.
I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Try again.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
Methane bubbling out of lakes has been known to kill off big groups of people before. I'm failing to find any reference other than this, though.
edit: this particular article says the gas in question was CO2, not methane, but same idea.
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
Well, I was really rebutting the idea that Methane can't cause sickness; anything that replaces oxygen in the air can make you feel ill. It's not a binary "feelin' fine" or "asphyxiated" thing.
I've never thought of beginning to die because you there's no oxygen available as an illness.
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Some of the first reports referenced the size of the crater requiring as much energy as a tactical nuclear weapon in the low kiloton range. Of course, any heavier metals that fall from space are going to have a similar kind of energy. (See: Rods from God.)
Hypoxia isn't the only listed illness... people are complaining of dermal injuries, which is something you'd associate more with radiation or chemical burns, not just oxygen deprivation... correct?
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I don't think methane is able to cause sickness, it's just highly volatile and in confined spaces can displace oxygen resulting in asphyxia.
Time to go polish up mah zomba' gun.
Everyone knows aliens always come out of space rocks.
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These guys are with you man.
Symptoms of hypoxia: Shortness of breath, headache, fatigue, nausea, seizures, coma, death...
That post was infinitely more impressive since your avatar is House..... good show man...
Deaths a pretty bad symptom i'd say.
1. As mentioned, a regular meteor just happened to strike a pressurized pocket of noxious gas underground. Unlikely, but not impossible. Alternatively, the meteor itself may be made of heavy metals that were carried into the atmosphere by the vaporizing groundwater.
2. There are a lot of undocumented, aging Cold-War-era satellites with simple nuclear cores out there. It's not unthinkable that one of them could deorbit and crash. Again, as the groundwater vaporized on impact, the radioactive material would be spread through the air - fallout, basically. Many of the symptoms displayed by people in the area are also associated with mild radiation poisoning.
Either way, it's a crazy story. The fact that the water at the bottom of the crater is still boiling is very strange - it means that either there's a supply of gas bubbles coming up through the water or whatever object sits under there is still radiating enough energy to boil the water.
I am fascinated by this turn of events. All I can do, though, is watch and see what happens.
I sat and watched as the meteorite hatched and the alien inside conquered all of humanity.
And then no humanity was there to save me.
I don't see how hypoxia could occur over an extended period of time in a wide open space like that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, just... I'd have to be convinced.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
yeah, I don't really go for the whole, "hypoxia over an open area" either.. it's the fucking martians
Well, I was really rebutting the idea that Methane can't cause sickness; anything that replaces oxygen in the air can make you feel ill. It's not a binary "feelin' fine" or "asphyxiated" thing.
But yeah, you're unlikely to get it in that kind of concentration in an open environment.
The story's pretty light on details, but
Suggests to me that people who go peer into the crater come away feeling ill. Now it's a good bet that if you're peering down at a pool of water with gas bubbling out of it, you're inhaling the gasses bubbling out of it.If the gas happens to be an oxygen antagonist, you could potentially have hypoxic symptoms even while surrounded by oxygen.
Or something toxic in the soil, poisonous fungus, alkaline in an underground resevoir, what have you...
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Huh. That sounds reasonable.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Methane bubbling out of lakes has been known to kill off big groups of people before. I'm failing to find any reference other than this, though.
edit: this particular article says the gas in question was CO2, not methane, but same idea.
Well, if lakes erupting gas can asphyxiate people over open area, then this seems less unlikely.
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I've never thought of beginning to die because you there's no oxygen available as an illness.
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Hypoxia isn't the only listed illness... people are complaining of dermal injuries, which is something you'd associate more with radiation or chemical burns, not just oxygen deprivation... correct?
I don't want to be killed by a giant meteor hitting us, that's a fucking shit way to die.
As long as it hits somewhere else, I don't really care.
That could happen.
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I'd rather be under the meteor than die a slow painful death of planetary extinction.
I'd rather neither.
And also a chair.
So, a meteorite hit peru? Crazy shit, man.
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