I'm not a huge soju fan. It just doesn't taste great. It's not terrible though. It's great mixed with cheap beer (somek!), and the fruit slushie things with it are fucking amazing.
I'm pretty fond of beksaeju, though a ROK army dude I work with told me it was a drink for old men (it's kind of herby). Whatever, still gonna drink it!
I had another kind, chang or cheng-something? It was ok, probably need to have it again sometime when I haven't had a bunch of booze prior to it.
The blackberry wine they sell in a lot of places is also delicious, but really, really sweet. It's a rounded, plastic maroon bottle.
Makgeoulli (however you want to romanize it) is my jam though. There's a place in the closest non-ville town to base that does homemade makgeoulli, and I try to get my friends to go there every time we're in town. They bring you a giant wooden bowl with a ladle-spoon thing to pour it into your personal drinking bowls, and it's traditional style (sitting on a pillow low to the ground).
Gonna miss korean liquor when I go back to the states. Also the fact that they sell beer nearly everywhere, even at all the little shops in the zoo (we were drunk at the zoo).
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After googling Beksaeju, it actually sounds like something I'd like to try sometime, and that's not something I say about a lot of alcoholic beverages of any kind.
I wonder how hard it would be to find here in Canada; it seems like they only really sell this stuff in South Korea, California and British Columbia, aka, the west coast.
Today in Korea, the stigma and discrimination is still so extreme that public and private hospitals routinely refuse to treat people living with HIV/AIDS. And the very few that do often segregate them from other patients, forcing them to shower and dine in separate areas, pandering to stigma and the mistaken belief that people with HIV/AIDS can easily infect those around them even though Korean medical professionals know this isn’t true.
The stigma surrounding HIV/AIDS is so intense in South Korea that the National Human Rights Commission of Korea has estimated that Koreans living with HIV are 10 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population, which already has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
Come to think of it, I remember having to get tested for AIDS before I could move here.
So in some more domestic Japanese news. Sorry I am not sure this article has been translated anywhere. But the government basically pointing towards planning on have a national population of 100 million and maintaining that from 2060 on.
For some reference Japan has a current population of 126 million or so at the moment. So that is a loss of 26 million people from their population. Now Japan isn't the only country losing pop but this is a huge piece of the country recognizing what is happening. Basically the article is saying that Towns, Cities and Prefectures need to plan out for this population and maintaining at that level compared to now.
Plans need to be submitted or at least initial plans in January. At least how I am reading it. Japanese newspapers kick the crap out of me a lot.
Still 26 million people in 46 years or so that is a huge population loss.
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Today in Korea, the stigma and discrimination is still so extreme that public and private hospitals routinely refuse to treat people living with HIV/AIDS. And the very few that do often segregate them from other patients, forcing them to shower and dine in separate areas, pandering to stigma and the mistaken belief that people with HIV/AIDS can easily infect those around them even though Korean medical professionals know this isn’t true.
The stigma surrounding HIV/AIDS is so intense in South Korea that the National Human Rights Commission of Korea has estimated that Koreans living with HIV are 10 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population, which already has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
Come to think of it, I remember having to get tested for AIDS before I could move here.
Why the fuck did Koreans listen to Margaret Thatcher?
Today in Korea, the stigma and discrimination is still so extreme that public and private hospitals routinely refuse to treat people living with HIV/AIDS. And the very few that do often segregate them from other patients, forcing them to shower and dine in separate areas, pandering to stigma and the mistaken belief that people with HIV/AIDS can easily infect those around them even though Korean medical professionals know this isn’t true.
The stigma surrounding HIV/AIDS is so intense in South Korea that the National Human Rights Commission of Korea has estimated that Koreans living with HIV are 10 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population, which already has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
That's horrible, but I have no idea where you're getting the slut shaming bit from- it seems like it's just "agh lepers". Education has worked to remove a good deal of false stigma from HIV/AIDS in the U.S.; I learned in middle school that HIV isn't spread through hugging or sharing a soda. South Korea really should update their sex education.
Come to think of it, I remember having to get tested for AIDS before I could move here.
That's pretty common. Entry into the U.S. on a non-immigrant visa doesn't require it, but immigration does, and you may not settle in the U.S. if you have an HIV infection. Granted, you're also kept out by tuberculosis, syphillis, measles, and certain types of influenza, among other things- countries don't really like letting sick people immigrate.
Why wouldn't you? Why is this relevant to discussion about asia.
Thatcher's plan to deal with the AIDS crisis was basically the same as South Korea's up there. Which is what I was reacting to.
To be fair, before AIDS was well understood, that was the plan a lot of places had to deal with it (not necessarily the shaming business, which is absurd). Hell, it wasn't even a new idea then; quarantine goes a long ways back.
South Korea adopting this sort of policy now, after the disease has been studied and is better understood is pretty shameful. A sick person is still entitled to their dignity.
Between 2006 and 2012, South Korea’s outdoor apparel market grew almost 500 percent, according to the Chosun Ilbo, a major daily newspaper. High-end gear is so commonplace that Koreans, particularly baby boomers, wear it even when going nowhere near a mountain. It’s suitable for traveling and shopping, restaurants and coffee shops.
I've seen these South Koreans hike mountains. Children, parents and grandparents with their children on their backs, wearing loud, flashy Korean hiking gear, holding a pole or dual-wielding them, in the blazing summers or deadly, Skyrim-esque winters. And they walk around just about anywhere in those outfits. They give zero fucks.
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To be fair.
If I had Mountains that goddamn beautiful I'd be climbing all over them too.
Today in Korea, the stigma and discrimination is still so extreme that public and private hospitals routinely refuse to treat people living with HIV/AIDS. And the very few that do often segregate them from other patients, forcing them to shower and dine in separate areas, pandering to stigma and the mistaken belief that people with HIV/AIDS can easily infect those around them even though Korean medical professionals know this isn’t true.
The stigma surrounding HIV/AIDS is so intense in South Korea that the National Human Rights Commission of Korea has estimated that Koreans living with HIV are 10 times more likely to commit suicide than the general population, which already has one of the highest suicide rates in the world.
That's horrible, but I have no idea where you're getting the slut shaming bit from- it seems like it's just "agh lepers". Education has worked to remove a good deal of false stigma from HIV/AIDS in the U.S.; I learned in middle school that HIV isn't spread through hugging or sharing a soda. South Korea really should update their sex education.
Come to think of it, I remember having to get tested for AIDS before I could move here.
That's pretty common. Entry into the U.S. on a non-immigrant visa doesn't require it, but immigration does, and you may not settle in the U.S. if you have an HIV infection. Granted, you're also kept out by tuberculosis, syphillis, measles, and certain types of influenza, among other things- countries don't really like letting sick people immigrate.
So I know this is about AIDS in South Korea, but I'm going to shift gears here and ask how fucked are we going to be from this Ebola outbreak in Africa?
Not for entering the U.S. on a green card; they removed mandatory HIV tests some time ago. But for applying for citizenship? It totally is.
re:Ebola
It's not getting out of Africa, and the WHO have it relatively under control. It is being spread, however, by Africans viewing the hospital as a place to die and helping their friends/relatives hide from medical workers. Throw in cultural stuff like washing of dead bodies prior to the funeral (and reliance on faith healers rather than doctors) and you can see why so many people have it.
Yeah the Ebola stuff can probably be in another thread. It is scary but still hard to transport overseas and even so outside of Africa we would probably get quarantine in really fast.
But back to Asia we have more of the US verse China war on stuff cyber stuff.
Yeah the Ebola stuff can probably be in another thread. It is scary but still hard to transport overseas and even so outside of Africa we would probably get quarantine in really fast.
But back to Asia we have more of the US verse China war on stuff cyber stuff.
Between this and them going after Apple China is stepping up the domestic war on US companies as recourse to us going after their espionage stuff.
you have fun with that China.
If there's one thing about American companies it's that they actually have the money and influence of a small modernized nation and can make those sorts of maneuvers very painful for China in the long run.
In the long run, I kinda expect China to force out foreign companies to make way for national ones.
Which may be a mistake. Sure, China has a billion people to sell to. But currently, there another 6 billion outside of China. Chinese products currently cannot compete with the stuff from South Korea, Japan, the US and Europe.
Mean while, those companies can just pack up and do business elsewhere, selling to the other 6 billion people on the Earth.
In the long run, I kinda expect China to force out foreign companies to make way for national ones.
Which may be a mistake. Sure, China has a billion people to sell to. But currently, there another 6 billion outside of China. Chinese products currently cannot compete with the stuff from South Korea, Japan, the US and Europe.
Mean while, those companies can just pack up and do business elsewhere, selling to the other 6 billion people on the Earth.
Japan and South Korea grew their domestic industries by being heavily protectionist. Both had a decades long period of selling substandard products while their industries matured. Had they had to compete directly with established American and European, that may never have happened.
I'm not a big lover of China's policies or government, but I do think they are pretty good at slowly building themselves into a global power. With its odd mix of communist totalitarianism and laissez faire capitalism, China's leaders often see past a lot of the free market bullshit that dominates the First World these days. They pay homage to it to keep the Western markets open, but they also make sure that they don't end up impaled on its many fallacies and delusions.
Maybe when I see China make something that is not a cheap knockoff of some other countries product I'll believe their strategy is working. Cause while they win in Chinese courts, selling that stuff abroad is a different story.
Maybe when I see China make something that is not a cheap knockoff of some other countries product I'll believe their strategy is working. Cause while they win in Chinese courts, selling that stuff abroad is a different story.
Look at the reputation of Japanese products in the '50s to the '70s. Their industry was also dominated by cheap knockoffs and shoddy electronics, but the experience and infrastructure developed through making all those cheap knockoffs allowed them to progress to equal or better quality than their Western rivals.
That's what China is trying to emulate. They want to push through the growth pains while preventing superior Western goods from dominating their markets and strangling their efforts. Which, incidentally, is exactly what Japan and South Korea did when incubating their national industries.
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Look at the reputation of Japanese products in the '50s to the '70s. Their industry was also dominated by cheap knockoffs and shoddy electronics, but the experience and infrastructure developed through making all those cheap knockoffs allowed them to progress to equal or better quality than their Western rivals.
That's what China is trying to emulate. They want to push through the growth pains while preventing superior Western goods from dominating their markets and strangling their efforts. Which, incidentally, is exactly what Japan and South Korea did when incubating their national industries.
It also helps that they're stealing everything that isn't nailed down as far as intellectual property goes. Granted, I'd be doing the same in their place, but let's not forget that rampant corporate espionage is a biiiiiiig reason why the U.S. is so mad at them.
Not for entering the U.S. on a green card; they removed mandatory HIV tests some time ago. But for applying for citizenship? It totally is.
re:Ebola
It's not getting out of Africa, and the WHO have it relatively under control. It is being spread, however, by Africans viewing the hospital as a place to die and helping their friends/relatives hide from medical workers. Throw in cultural stuff like washing of dead bodies prior to the funeral (and reliance on faith healers rather than doctors) and you can see why so many people have it.
Its also happening in places like Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone. Places ravage by war and conflict. Where actual medical personnel got the fuck out of dodge long time ago and haven't returned. Hospitals are in many cases dangerous for healthy people to visit due to the chance of getting infected with normal diseases, so people not wanting to send their loved ones into a death trap is understandable.
The reputation of most governments in the area is one of deep corruption, so most people think the worst of their leaders(having been proven right by bitter experience), so most ignore their attempts to do quarantine.
Any place with functional hospitals, qualified medical personnel and government with a little credibility would do just fine. Outbreak is still going to be just a movie.
Now a more virulent outbreak of SARS would be a bit harder.(but still completely doable).
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Look at the reputation of Japanese products in the '50s to the '70s. Their industry was also dominated by cheap knockoffs and shoddy electronics, but the experience and infrastructure developed through making all those cheap knockoffs allowed them to progress to equal or better quality than their Western rivals.
That's what China is trying to emulate. They want to push through the growth pains while preventing superior Western goods from dominating their markets and strangling their efforts. Which, incidentally, is exactly what Japan and South Korea did when incubating their national industries.
It also helps that they're stealing everything that isn't nailed down as far as intellectual property goes. Granted, I'd be doing the same in their place, but let's not forget that rampant corporate espionage is a biiiiiiig reason why the U.S. is so mad at them.
It seems that US companies are willing to risk the theft of IP for short term low cost labor though.
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Didn't see this posted: Japan "gives" (the article is vague if they were sold or loaned or gifted) 6 patrol ships to Vietnam. China is running the real risk of seeing a regional alliance formed against them.
Also: the United States and India fail to get along. I still don't think my government realizes that India will be a world power this century, and that they need to start treating the country better and as an equal.
Didn't see this posted: Japan "gives" (the article is vague if they were sold or loaned or gifted) 6 patrol ships to Vietnam. China is running the real risk of seeing a regional alliance formed against them.
Also: the United States and India fail to get along. I still don't think my government realizes that India will be a world power this century, and that they need to start treating the country better and as an equal.
US India relations have always been a mess. They rarely go beyond friendly neutral. We have a lot of trade and economic ties to India but we do not like working with the Indian governing class since they tend to fall in the corrupt, incompetent or neutered by infighting. They are a major regional power but till they get a lot of their own internal issues fixed they won't be more than that.
One of the things with our pivot though is to try and improve relations with India. It doesn't help the current party is kind of an anti-US party and we have given it a lot of shit in the past.
On the Vietnamese getting Japanese ships this isn't surprising as the Japanese were loaning/selling some patrol boats to the Philippines already this year. Between this and the current move to try and pull Korean relations out of the shitter it isn't looking good for China when it comes to regional partnerships.
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I think China is actually committed to taking some of the Wind out of Un's sails.
China will still feed the North, but they're gonna make the North suck China's dick a little harder.
I'm pretty fond of beksaeju, though a ROK army dude I work with told me it was a drink for old men (it's kind of herby). Whatever, still gonna drink it!
I had another kind, chang or cheng-something? It was ok, probably need to have it again sometime when I haven't had a bunch of booze prior to it.
The blackberry wine they sell in a lot of places is also delicious, but really, really sweet. It's a rounded, plastic maroon bottle.
Makgeoulli (however you want to romanize it) is my jam though. There's a place in the closest non-ville town to base that does homemade makgeoulli, and I try to get my friends to go there every time we're in town. They bring you a giant wooden bowl with a ladle-spoon thing to pour it into your personal drinking bowls, and it's traditional style (sitting on a pillow low to the ground).
Gonna miss korean liquor when I go back to the states. Also the fact that they sell beer nearly everywhere, even at all the little shops in the zoo (we were drunk at the zoo).
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In other news, Japan's right wing are still racist twats.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/23/japan-war-memorial-korean-labourers
I wonder how hard it would be to find here in Canada; it seems like they only really sell this stuff in South Korea, California and British Columbia, aka, the west coast.
South Korea's treatment for AIDS: Slut Shaming and treating the infected like Lepers.
Come to think of it, I remember having to get tested for AIDS before I could move here.
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/politics/20140725-OYT1T50172.html?from=ytop_main5
For some reference Japan has a current population of 126 million or so at the moment. So that is a loss of 26 million people from their population. Now Japan isn't the only country losing pop but this is a huge piece of the country recognizing what is happening. Basically the article is saying that Towns, Cities and Prefectures need to plan out for this population and maintaining at that level compared to now.
Plans need to be submitted or at least initial plans in January. At least how I am reading it. Japanese newspapers kick the crap out of me a lot.
Still 26 million people in 46 years or so that is a huge population loss.
Why the fuck did Koreans listen to Margaret Thatcher?
Why wouldn't you? Why is this relevant to discussion about asia.
Xi Jinping is a p good orator.
Thatcher's plan to deal with the AIDS crisis was basically the same as South Korea's up there. Which is what I was reacting to.
That's horrible, but I have no idea where you're getting the slut shaming bit from- it seems like it's just "agh lepers". Education has worked to remove a good deal of false stigma from HIV/AIDS in the U.S.; I learned in middle school that HIV isn't spread through hugging or sharing a soda. South Korea really should update their sex education.
That's pretty common. Entry into the U.S. on a non-immigrant visa doesn't require it, but immigration does, and you may not settle in the U.S. if you have an HIV infection. Granted, you're also kept out by tuberculosis, syphillis, measles, and certain types of influenza, among other things- countries don't really like letting sick people immigrate.
To be fair, before AIDS was well understood, that was the plan a lot of places had to deal with it (not necessarily the shaming business, which is absurd). Hell, it wasn't even a new idea then; quarantine goes a long ways back.
South Korea adopting this sort of policy now, after the disease has been studied and is better understood is pretty shameful. A sick person is still entitled to their dignity.
On a happier note, South Koreans to mountains: FUCK YOU MOUNTAIN YOU'RE NO MATCH FOR ME!
I've seen these South Koreans hike mountains. Children, parents and grandparents with their children on their backs, wearing loud, flashy Korean hiking gear, holding a pole or dual-wielding them, in the blazing summers or deadly, Skyrim-esque winters. And they walk around just about anywhere in those outfits. They give zero fucks.
If I had Mountains that goddamn beautiful I'd be climbing all over them too.
Because she threw gay people under the bus in a profound way, something South Korea emulates (or came up
HIV isn't a disqualification for the US anymore.
cause it seems pretty terrifying to me.
If proper quarantine procedure is followed, anyway...
Not for entering the U.S. on a green card; they removed mandatory HIV tests some time ago. But for applying for citizenship? It totally is.
re:Ebola
It's not getting out of Africa, and the WHO have it relatively under control. It is being spread, however, by Africans viewing the hospital as a place to die and helping their friends/relatives hide from medical workers. Throw in cultural stuff like washing of dead bodies prior to the funeral (and reliance on faith healers rather than doctors) and you can see why so many people have it.
But back to Asia we have more of the US verse China war on stuff cyber stuff.
China raids Microsoft offices using anti-monopoly laws
Between this and them going after Apple China is stepping up the domestic war on US companies as recourse to us going after their espionage stuff.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/american-detained-north-korea-feels-abandoned-24797987
you have fun with that China.
If there's one thing about American companies it's that they actually have the money and influence of a small modernized nation and can make those sorts of maneuvers very painful for China in the long run.
Which may be a mistake. Sure, China has a billion people to sell to. But currently, there another 6 billion outside of China. Chinese products currently cannot compete with the stuff from South Korea, Japan, the US and Europe.
Mean while, those companies can just pack up and do business elsewhere, selling to the other 6 billion people on the Earth.
Japan and South Korea grew their domestic industries by being heavily protectionist. Both had a decades long period of selling substandard products while their industries matured. Had they had to compete directly with established American and European, that may never have happened.
I'm not a big lover of China's policies or government, but I do think they are pretty good at slowly building themselves into a global power. With its odd mix of communist totalitarianism and laissez faire capitalism, China's leaders often see past a lot of the free market bullshit that dominates the First World these days. They pay homage to it to keep the Western markets open, but they also make sure that they don't end up impaled on its many fallacies and delusions.
Look at the reputation of Japanese products in the '50s to the '70s. Their industry was also dominated by cheap knockoffs and shoddy electronics, but the experience and infrastructure developed through making all those cheap knockoffs allowed them to progress to equal or better quality than their Western rivals.
That's what China is trying to emulate. They want to push through the growth pains while preventing superior Western goods from dominating their markets and strangling their efforts. Which, incidentally, is exactly what Japan and South Korea did when incubating their national industries.
It also helps that they're stealing everything that isn't nailed down as far as intellectual property goes. Granted, I'd be doing the same in their place, but let's not forget that rampant corporate espionage is a biiiiiiig reason why the U.S. is so mad at them.
Its also happening in places like Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone. Places ravage by war and conflict. Where actual medical personnel got the fuck out of dodge long time ago and haven't returned. Hospitals are in many cases dangerous for healthy people to visit due to the chance of getting infected with normal diseases, so people not wanting to send their loved ones into a death trap is understandable.
The reputation of most governments in the area is one of deep corruption, so most people think the worst of their leaders(having been proven right by bitter experience), so most ignore their attempts to do quarantine.
Any place with functional hospitals, qualified medical personnel and government with a little credibility would do just fine. Outbreak is still going to be just a movie.
Now a more virulent outbreak of SARS would be a bit harder.(but still completely doable).
It seems that US companies are willing to risk the theft of IP for short term low cost labor though.
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It is really bad.
China's cheaply built infrastructure has just been collapsing every time they have a major earthquake.
I expect this will be another very high death toll.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-28599397
Also: the United States and India fail to get along. I still don't think my government realizes that India will be a world power this century, and that they need to start treating the country better and as an equal.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-28602689
Your comments on the first link would seem to point towards bad reasoning in your comment on the 2nd.
One of the things with our pivot though is to try and improve relations with India. It doesn't help the current party is kind of an anti-US party and we have given it a lot of shit in the past.
On the Vietnamese getting Japanese ships this isn't surprising as the Japanese were loaning/selling some patrol boats to the Philippines already this year. Between this and the current move to try and pull Korean relations out of the shitter it isn't looking good for China when it comes to regional partnerships.
You were right. Death toll has already doubled.