After the third or fourth time he was ready to die but didn't, I really thought Miller had equipped plot armor +9000. Though I guess in a way, he's just been "absorbed"/lives on as part of the Venus/proto-molecule. It was a really great read, and I've already started on Caliban's War.
I was a little put off by how long it took for them to figure out that they could have just activated the transponders on the ships to track Eros. I mean, they were just talking to Miller right before. And the whole "can't be tracked by radar" think was a bit far fetched, since Eros can be seen from earth. I didn't see why they needed (except for "reasons") to try for the Rocinante to keep within visual sight of it.
The narrator has been excellent as well.
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it. ~ Terry Pratchett
Ready Player One read like the author copy pasted Wikipedia sections into his work. Like what? Why? The premise was great but he went too hard too fast on the nostalgia references.
Ready Player One read like the author copy pasted Wikipedia sections into his work. Like what? Why? The premise was great but he went too hard too fast on the nostalgia references.
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
I know I'm the only one, but I'd love to find another series like the early Dresden Files - Storm Front in particular. I really like the supernatural private eye schtick, and those early books, where Dresden was a detective who happened to be a wizard, were great for me. The later ones, which were more about him being a wizard who happened to be a detective, I found less engrossing. But if anyone can recommend something similar to the early books, I'd snap it up
I've read enough Diskworld at this point I can see how he became a better writer over the years.
I think the City Guard books illustrate this; l might be making a bit of a faux pas, but I've only read Guards! Guards! once or twice and don't feel an inclination to read it again. However Feet of Clay, Night Watch and Thud! make me well-up whenever I re-read them (I don't know if perhaps being a dad has made me more of a big old crybaby).
Minor Thud! spoiler
I read to my daughter every night as well, unless she has fallen asleep when we've been out late
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
I know I'm the only one, but I'd love to find another series like the early Dresden Files - Storm Front in particular. I really like the supernatural private eye schtick, and those early books, where Dresden was a detective who happened to be a wizard, were great for me. The later ones, which were more about him being a wizard who happened to be a detective, I found less engrossing. But if anyone can recommend something similar to the early books, I'd snap it up
Have you tried the Rivers of London series? It's set in a lower-key supernatural universe than Dresden's, and it keeps the action squarely on the main character's role as one of the London police force's secret wizards.
There's a pleasant lack of scope creep. Even as the world gets filled out, the main character doesn't level up to match each threat.
I've read enough Diskworld at this point I can see how he became a better writer over the years.
I think the City Guard books illustrate this; l might be making a bit of a faux pas, but I've only read Guards! Guards! once or twice and don't feel an inclination to read it again. However Feet of Clay, Night Watch and Thud! make me well-up whenever I re-read them (I don't know if perhaps being a dad has made me more of a big old crybaby).
Minor Thud! spoiler
I read to my daughter every night as well, unless she has fallen asleep when we've been out late
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
I know I'm the only one, but I'd love to find another series like the early Dresden Files - Storm Front in particular. I really like the supernatural private eye schtick, and those early books, where Dresden was a detective who happened to be a wizard, were great for me. The later ones, which were more about him being a wizard who happened to be a detective, I found less engrossing. But if anyone can recommend something similar to the early books, I'd snap it up
Have you tried the Rivers of London series? It's set in a lower-key supernatural universe than Dresden's, and it keeps the action squarely on the main character's role as one of the London police force's secret wizards.
There's a pleasant lack of scope creep. Even as the world gets filled out, the main character doesn't level up to match each threat.
I have, and I would quite happily kill a man to get an early release of the next book.
More like that would be ideal.
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
no
NO!
NOOOOOOOO
Sunshine is amazing and I hate Dresden Files and think it is bad. Would not compare the two in tone or subject matter or themes or anything other than that they are both urban fantasy.
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
no
NO!
NOOOOOOOO
Sunshine is amazing and I hate Dresden Files and think it is bad. Would not compare the two in tone or subject matter or themes or anything other than that they are both urban fantasy.
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
no
NO!
NOOOOOOOO
Sunshine is amazing and I hate Dresden Files and think it is bad. Would not compare the two in tone or subject matter or themes or anything other than that they are both urban fantasy.
so we're in agreement, they're exactly the same
It was you that wrote the goodreads recommendation engine, wasn't it
Please continue to suggest good urban fantasy novels and series!
NIght Watch--not Terry Pratchett, but Sergei Lukyanenko. Fun, dark, urban fantasy set in Moscow.
I saw a film of that name and I swear to god after it was over I could not tell if I was high or not.
hahaha yes; I kinda love the movie. The movie of Day Watch is also crazy (and diverges even more from the book than the Night Watch movie does from Night Watch.)
Urban fantasy is a genre wherein most of the best novels are really slightly disguised romance novels, replacing Greek Billionaire or Cowboy or Highland Scot with vampire or werewolf or demon or weredemonpire, while providing the heroine with significantly more agency than a typical romance novel. With that said, Carrie Vaughn's Kitty series and Kelly Armstrong's Women of the Underworld series are generally worth reading.
Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence is urban fantasy; it's set in a fantasy world that appears to be our world with the series numbers scraped off and a bunch of bizarre gods shoved in. The first book is Three Parts Dead; was th that said, Last First Snow is the first one chronologically, and if you read the series in the order written you'll go into Last First Snow knowing who lives, and basically what happens.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
Urban fantasy is a genre wherein most of the best novels are really slightly disguised romance novels, replacing Greek Billionaire or Cowboy or Highland Scot with vampire or werewolf or demon or weredemonpire, while providing the heroine with significantly more agency than a typical romance novel. With that said, Carrie Vaughn's Kitty series and Kelly Armstrong's Women of the Underworld series are generally worth reading.
Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence is urban fantasy; it's set in a fantasy world that appears to be our world with the series numbers scraped off and a bunch of bizarre gods shoved in. The first book is Three Parts Dead; was th that said, Last First Snow is the first one chronologically, and if you read the series in the order written you'll go into Last First Snow knowing who lives, and basically what happens.
thunderer by felix gilman is great urban fantasy
also ambergis stuff by jeff vandermeer
and ofc perdido st station by china mieville
I don't think any of those are romance novels
although they aren't urban fantasy in the sense that they're not set in worlds very close to our own + magic, but they're fantasies in which the city itself seems like a major part of the story
Urban fantasy is a genre wherein most of the best novels are really slightly disguised romance novels, replacing Greek Billionaire or Cowboy or Highland Scot with vampire or werewolf or demon or weredemonpire, while providing the heroine with significantly more agency than a typical romance novel. With that said, Carrie Vaughn's Kitty series and Kelly Armstrong's Women of the Underworld series are generally worth reading.
Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence is urban fantasy; it's set in a fantasy world that appears to be our world with the series numbers scraped off and a bunch of bizarre gods shoved in. The first book is Three Parts Dead; was th that said, Last First Snow is the first one chronologically, and if you read the series in the order written you'll go into Last First Snow knowing who lives, and basically what happens.
thunderer by felix gilman is great urban fantasy
also ambergis stuff by jeff vandermeer
and ofc perdido st station by china mieville
I don't think any of those are romance novels
although they aren't urban fantasy in the sense that they're not set in worlds very close to our own + magic, but they're fantasies in which the city itself seems like a major part of the story
China Mieville's Kraken is a pretty decent Neverwhere-style urban fantasy set in London.
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Just found out a friend that is really into rabbits has never read Watership Down. Had never even heard of it. And she's a reader. I'm like, how do you manage that? So I got her set up with the audiobook, better than nothing. Though I have no idea how they are going to pronounce some of that rabbit stuff.
I loved the Rook, and wholeheartedly second that recommendation.
I have hated everything that I've read by China Mievelle. He's one of those creators whose virtues entirely escape me. I think that Perdido St. Station might be the most unenjoyable book that I've ever finished.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
Please continue to suggest good urban fantasy novels and series!
The Rook - Amnesiac psychic badass struggles to discover who "murdered" her former identity. Sequel comes out next month.
And if you like that one, I'd also suggest Stross's Laundry series - Cold War spy agencies fighting the Lovecraftian apocalypse.
The bad news is that it's getting a tv adaption and they've bought in - Stephanie Meyer. I guess the lesson here for authors is not to sell options of urban fantasy to Summit Entertainment.
I loved the Rook, and wholeheartedly second that recommendation.
I have hated everything that I've read by China Mievelle. He's one of those creators whose virtues entirely escape me. I think that Perdido St. Station might be the most unenjoyable book that I've ever finished.
I loved the Rook, and wholeheartedly second that recommendation.
I have hated everything that I've read by China Mievelle. He's one of those creators whose virtues entirely escape me. I think that Perdido St. Station might be the most unenjoyable book that I've ever finished.
Give Kraken a try. It's straight Gaiman-esque urban fantasy.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the Joe Pitt books. Cynical noir about an ex-punk toughguy enforcer who happens to be a vampire. Great stuff, although it is deeply dark.
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I enjoyed the first few of Mike Carey's Felix Castor series, but I think they're kind of tough to find in the States due to publisher shenanigans.
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It's not modern urban fantasy (set about 1800 or so), but Darker Shade of Magic tickled that itch for me. It's about a magician who can travel to three alternate versions of London (White London, Red London, and Gray London being King George III's London) involved in a plot that revolves around the existence of a fourth, lost London - Black London.
Urban fantasy is a genre wherein most of the best novels are really slightly disguised romance novels, replacing Greek Billionaire or Cowboy or Highland Scot with vampire or werewolf or demon or weredemonpire, while providing the heroine with significantly more agency than a typical romance novel. With that said, Carrie Vaughn's Kitty series and Kelly Armstrong's Women of the Underworld series are generally worth reading.
Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence is urban fantasy; it's set in a fantasy world that appears to be our world with the series numbers scraped off and a bunch of bizarre gods shoved in. The first book is Three Parts Dead; was th that said, Last First Snow is the first one chronologically, and if you read the series in the order written you'll go into Last First Snow knowing who lives, and basically what happens.
thunderer by felix gilman is great urban fantasy
also ambergis stuff by jeff vandermeer
and ofc perdido st station by china mieville
I don't think any of those are romance novels
although they aren't urban fantasy in the sense that they're not set in worlds very close to our own + magic, but they're fantasies in which the city itself seems like a major part of the story
No one said Urban Fantasy that isn't just Paranormal Romance doesn't exist. But just straight up, Urban Fantasy is almost entirely Paranormal Romance by numbers. Both published and sold. It's a goddamn big seller afaik.
Please continue to suggest good urban fantasy novels and series!
I have one, that seems to be awfully underpraised around on the internet:
Matthew Swift series by Kate Griffin. First book, called A Madness of Angels, is about dead sorcerer in London who cames back to life by merging with anthropomorphic personifications of electricity, Blue Electric Angels, and then goes on a mission to have revenge on his murderers.
None other urban fantasy have a magic so connected with a present day motives like ths day.
I loved the Rook, and wholeheartedly second that recommendation.
I have hated everything that I've read by China Mievelle. He's one of those creators whose virtues entirely escape me. I think that Perdido St. Station might be the most unenjoyable book that I've ever finished.
Which books have you read, and which aspects of his writing did you not like? I like his books very much, but I often read about people who have very negative feelings towards them.
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
I know I'm the only one, but I'd love to find another series like the early Dresden Files - Storm Front in particular. I really like the supernatural private eye schtick, and those early books, where Dresden was a detective who happened to be a wizard, were great for me. The later ones, which were more about him being a wizard who happened to be a detective, I found less engrossing. But if anyone can recommend something similar to the early books, I'd snap it up
Have you tried the Rivers of London series? It's set in a lower-key supernatural universe than Dresden's, and it keeps the action squarely on the main character's role as one of the London police force's secret wizards.
There's a pleasant lack of scope creep. Even as the world gets filled out, the main character doesn't level up to match each threat.
I have, and I would quite happily kill a man to get an early release of the next book.
More like that would be ideal.
I wasn't aware of this until recently, but when I was in the bookshop the other day, I noticed that there is at least one Rivers of London comic. I don't know if it might be worth checking out.
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I was a little put off by how long it took for them to figure out that they could have just activated the transponders on the ships to track Eros. I mean, they were just talking to Miller right before. And the whole "can't be tracked by radar" think was a bit far fetched, since Eros can be seen from earth. I didn't see why they needed (except for "reasons") to try for the Rocinante to keep within visual sight of it.
The narrator has been excellent as well.
Ready Player One read like the author copy pasted Wikipedia sections into his work. Like what? Why? The premise was great but he went too hard too fast on the nostalgia references.
Cause that kind of shit sells?
it is okay so far
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I've read enough Diskworld at this point I can see how he became a better writer over the years.
I don't think it'll provide many answers as to what the hell is going on yet I'm perfectly okay with that.
finished it
pretty good, very similar to the dresden files if you like those
I know I'm the only one, but I'd love to find another series like the early Dresden Files - Storm Front in particular. I really like the supernatural private eye schtick, and those early books, where Dresden was a detective who happened to be a wizard, were great for me. The later ones, which were more about him being a wizard who happened to be a detective, I found less engrossing. But if anyone can recommend something similar to the early books, I'd snap it up
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I think the City Guard books illustrate this; l might be making a bit of a faux pas, but I've only read Guards! Guards! once or twice and don't feel an inclination to read it again. However Feet of Clay, Night Watch and Thud! make me well-up whenever I re-read them (I don't know if perhaps being a dad has made me more of a big old crybaby).
Minor Thud! spoiler
Have you tried the Rivers of London series? It's set in a lower-key supernatural universe than Dresden's, and it keeps the action squarely on the main character's role as one of the London police force's secret wizards.
There's a pleasant lack of scope creep. Even as the world gets filled out, the main character doesn't level up to match each threat.
"The Ramkins were more highly bred than a hilltop bakery, whereas Corporal Nobbs had been disqualified from the human race for shoving."
Night Watch.
"They rise up, they rise up..."
'scuse me
I have, and I would quite happily kill a man to get an early release of the next book.
More like that would be ideal.
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SF&F Reviews blog
no
NO!
NOOOOOOOO
Sunshine is amazing and I hate Dresden Files and think it is bad. Would not compare the two in tone or subject matter or themes or anything other than that they are both urban fantasy.
so we're in agreement, they're exactly the same
NIght Watch--not Terry Pratchett, but Sergei Lukyanenko. Fun, dark, urban fantasy set in Moscow.
It was you that wrote the goodreads recommendation engine, wasn't it
I'm on to you
I saw a film of that name and I swear to god after it was over I could not tell if I was high or not.
hahaha yes; I kinda love the movie. The movie of Day Watch is also crazy (and diverges even more from the book than the Night Watch movie does from Night Watch.)
Urban fantasy is a genre wherein most of the best novels are really slightly disguised romance novels, replacing Greek Billionaire or Cowboy or Highland Scot with vampire or werewolf or demon or weredemonpire, while providing the heroine with significantly more agency than a typical romance novel. With that said, Carrie Vaughn's Kitty series and Kelly Armstrong's Women of the Underworld series are generally worth reading.
Max Gladstone's Craft Sequence is urban fantasy; it's set in a fantasy world that appears to be our world with the series numbers scraped off and a bunch of bizarre gods shoved in. The first book is Three Parts Dead; was th that said, Last First Snow is the first one chronologically, and if you read the series in the order written you'll go into Last First Snow knowing who lives, and basically what happens.
The Rook - Amnesiac psychic badass struggles to discover who "murdered" her former identity. Sequel comes out next month.
And if you like that one, I'd also suggest Stross's Laundry series - Cold War spy agencies fighting the Lovecraftian apocalypse.
thunderer by felix gilman is great urban fantasy
also ambergis stuff by jeff vandermeer
and ofc perdido st station by china mieville
I don't think any of those are romance novels
although they aren't urban fantasy in the sense that they're not set in worlds very close to our own + magic, but they're fantasies in which the city itself seems like a major part of the story
China Mieville's Kraken is a pretty decent Neverwhere-style urban fantasy set in London.
Both of these are totally bad ass. can't wait for the next rook book, also the next laundry book, as the last one was a bit weak.
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I loved the Rook, and wholeheartedly second that recommendation.
I have hated everything that I've read by China Mievelle. He's one of those creators whose virtues entirely escape me. I think that Perdido St. Station might be the most unenjoyable book that I've ever finished.
The bad news is that it's getting a tv adaption and they've bought in - Stephanie Meyer. I guess the lesson here for authors is not to sell options of urban fantasy to Summit Entertainment.
his book embassytown is rull good
Give Kraken a try. It's straight Gaiman-esque urban fantasy.
-Indiana Solo, runner of blades
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No one said Urban Fantasy that isn't just Paranormal Romance doesn't exist. But just straight up, Urban Fantasy is almost entirely Paranormal Romance by numbers. Both published and sold. It's a goddamn big seller afaik.
I have one, that seems to be awfully underpraised around on the internet:
Matthew Swift series by Kate Griffin. First book, called A Madness of Angels, is about dead sorcerer in London who cames back to life by merging with anthropomorphic personifications of electricity, Blue Electric Angels, and then goes on a mission to have revenge on his murderers.
None other urban fantasy have a magic so connected with a present day motives like ths day.
Which books have you read, and which aspects of his writing did you not like? I like his books very much, but I often read about people who have very negative feelings towards them.
Case in point: https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/05/14/the-verge
I wasn't aware of this until recently, but when I was in the bookshop the other day, I noticed that there is at least one Rivers of London comic. I don't know if it might be worth checking out.